**Nirvana's Feminized White Widow CFL Grow**

Geez, I dont see how those buds arn't breaking that limb!! Look how many and big they are, that limb must be pretty damn strong!!

well just tying the branch down will make the branch thicker like flexin a muscle. I use some fishing weights personally but by the time they are a few weeks old those things just don't phase em at all need like some barbells:mr green: I hope I can get one branch that looks 1/2 that big.

Yeaaa I know.Idk how to explain it... but when you do the LST.. the stem becomes VERY strong.. it just grows in whatever shape you have it tied in...

I attempted an LST before.. the plant came out good.. it made a complete circle.. but when it started to bud.. the top got really burnt, and the whole plant dies... but before i threw it out.. i cut off the strings off i had tying it down.. and the plant stayed in that same shape... and it was pretty sturdy.. and that plant was the runt too.

It is pretty amazing how you can force a plant to grow.. i'll see if i can find any other cool looking LST grows

OO yea.. I almost 4got to. I remember you asking about the Co2 system.. I'm using a homemade Co2 generator. I made it with 1 cup of sugar.. 1 tablespoon of sugar.. water.. an empty 2-liter bottle of soda... and some tuning. I'll find a link for ya and post it to show you how to make it... I'm not sure if it really helps... but it cant hurt it.. I think it deff. helps tho. Heres a link on how to make it. and once u learn the basics.. pretty much how much to mix etc.. you can tweak it however you want. w.e. is easiest for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl3SDfKzgTQ&feature=player_embedded

how much were the seeds?

OO yea.. I almost 4got to. I remember you asking about the Co2 system.. I'm using a homemade Co2 generator. I made it with 1 cup of sugar.. 1 tablespoon of sugar.. water.. an empty 2-liter bottle of soda... and some tuning. I'll find a link for ya and post it to show you how to make it... I'm not sure if it really helps... but it cant hurt it.. I think it deff. helps tho. Heres a link on how to make it. and once u learn the basics.. pretty much how much to mix etc.. you can tweak it however you want. w.e. is easiest for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl3SDfKzgTQ&feature=player_embedded[/QUOTE]

Damn, thats a lot easier than I thought it would be! Super video on how to do it homemade, thanks! I got it favorited
Its worth it too, every little bit helps!

diamond doggy said:

how much were the seeds?

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Heyy man. Theyre pretty cheap.. $36 bucks for 5 feminized seeds. I'll tell ya right now.. I did ALOT of searching.. and Nirvana is the cheapest site.. shipping is under $8. Soo about $42 including shipping. And i got my order in 6 days.. can't beat that.

Heres the link to the WW seeds. They have a good choice of seeds as well. Regular and Feminized.. soo check'em out

http://www.nirvana-shop.com/en/review/product/list/id/53/category/6/

NightTrain said:

Damn, thats a lot easier than I thought it would be! Super video on how to do it homemade, thanks! I got it favorited
Its worth it too, every little bit helps!

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Yeaa it is really easy to make. I'll take a pic of mine tomorow. one thing im not sure of tho.. is that video sais Co2 rises.. but i always thought it was heavier than oxygen.. which would make it drop.. soo idk? lol. but yea. its deff worth having it in the room. its good for 2 weeks too.

and yes. i agree... every little bit helps.

chb444220 said:

Heyy man. Theyre pretty cheap.. $36 bucks for 5 feminized seeds. I'll tell ya right now.. I did ALOT of searching.. and Nirvana is the cheapest site.. shipping is under $8. Soo about $42 including shipping. And i got my order in 6 days.. can't beat that.

Heres the link to the WW seeds. They have a good choice of seeds as well. Regular and Feminized.. soo check'em out

http://www.nirvana-shop.com/en/review/product/list/id/53/category/6/



Yeaa it is really easy to make. I'll take a pic of mine tomorow. one thing im not sure of tho.. is that video sais Co2 rises.. but i always thought it was heavier than oxygen.. which would make it drop.. soo idk? lol. but yea. its deff worth having it in the room. its good for 2 weeks too.

and yes. i agree... every little bit helps.

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Definitely sounds like a great price, especially for females! go Nirvana!

Wow that makes me think though...oh no another newbie question!! I wonder how you know the seeds are male and female before growing them? I've never thought about that...There must be a way to tell from the way they look or the form or something?? Geez, the more I learn, the more I realize I have much more to learn

Yea your right about the Co2 man, it falls, not rises, he just made a mistake in the video when labeling it. It corrected himself in the sidebar when people noticed it and said something in the comments lol

So doe that mean you put the output of the Co2 somewhere near the top of the plant so it falls throughout the leaves?

NightTrain;3921106]Definitely sounds like a great price, especially for females! go Nirvana!
Yeaaa. Like I said, I searched the web a lot! And so far, I can't find any place thats cheaper. Attitude Seeds bank is pretty good as well. They have a HUGEEEEE selection, which is one thing thats better than Nirvana because Nirvana only has about 30-40 strains.. not sure exactly.. But Attitude has like... hundreds and hundreds! Wouldnt doubt it if they have over 1,000. And the prices there arent too too bad. Some are over $100 for 5 seeds.. but there are some that are around $35-$40.

But Attitude gets you with shipping!!! Soo be careful of that! Say your seeds are $40... Then they charge you $13.05 (I just checked right now to be accurate) for shipping... then you have to (well.. you dont technically "HAVE TO".. but I would) pay another $9.95 for "Gaurenteed" Shipping.. which is pretty fucking gay.. the first $13.05 is for "UN-Gaurenteed" shipping I guess...? lol.

Sooo anyways.. your $35-$40 seeds end up costing you $58-$63.... =/ where as Nirvana only charges 7 or 8 bucks for shipping.. and it is gaurenteed.. for free!

Wow that makes me think though...oh no another newbie question!! I wonder how you know the seeds are male and female before growing them? I've never thought about that...There must be a way to tell from the way they look or the form or something?? Geez, the more I learn, the more I realize I have much more to learn

Lol. Its fine man.. ask away! Well.. there is no way to tell from looking at the seeds. Nooooo wayyy. The way they make them.. are from hermie plants.. (I think. lol. dont quote me on that. but thats what I thin. idk how else they could make them) but if you have a plant.. and its female.. and it starts budding or w.e.and then.. due to stress from lights or cutting too many leaves or something.. your plant turns hermie, and the male pollen sacs pollinate your buds.. the seeds it produces are feminized.

Soo you can actually make your own feminized seeds if you wanted.. Just stress your female plant out.. by leaving the lights on for like an hour or 2 in the middle of your 12 hours of darkness during flowering.. and eventually, it will start growing pollen sacs.. and WALLAH!! Feminized seeds!


Yea your right about the Co2 man, it falls, not rises, he just made a mistake in the video when labeling it. It corrected himself in the sidebar when people noticed it and said something in the comments lol

ooo. lol. ok. Yea I was pretty sure it falls. But thats good people corrected him.

So doe that mean you put the output of the Co2 somewhere near the top of the plant so it falls throughout the leaves?

Yes. It works best if you keep it above your plants.. some people will put it right next to their plant(s) and have like.. a stack of VHS tapes or DVDs or something to keep it higher than their plants.. I just have it on the top shelf in my closet and have the tubing facing down.. towards the plants. Ill take a pic in a few min for ya.. and ill post it up here so u can see what I mean, and see what one looks like.

And I dont mind you askin questions man. lol. I will do my best to answer them.. or if I dont know it.. I will try to find it somewhere else..

chb444220 said:

NightTrain;3921106]Definitely sounds like a great price, especially for females! go Nirvana!
Yeaaa. Like I said, I searched the web a lot! And so far, I can't find any place thats cheaper. Attitude Seeds bank is pretty good as well. They have a HUGEEEEE selection, which is one thing thats better than Nirvana because Nirvana only has about 30-40 strains.. not sure exactly.. But Attitude has like... hundreds and hundreds! Wouldnt doubt it if they have over 1,000. And the prices there arent too too bad. Some are over $100 for 5 seeds.. but there are some that are around $35-$40.

But Attitude gets you with shipping!!! Soo be careful of that! Say your seeds are $40... Then they charge you $13.05 (I just checked right now to be accurate) for shipping... then you have to (well.. you dont technically "HAVE TO".. but I would) pay another $9.95 for "Gaurenteed" Shipping.. which is pretty fucking gay.. the first $13.05 is for "UN-Gaurenteed" shipping I guess...? lol.

Sooo anyways.. your $35-$40 seeds end up costing you $58-$63.... =/ where as Nirvana only charges 7 or 8 bucks for shipping.. and it is gaurenteed.. for free!

Wow that makes me think though...oh no another newbie question!! I wonder how you know the seeds are male and female before growing them? I've never thought about that...There must be a way to tell from the way they look or the form or something?? Geez, the more I learn, the more I realize I have much more to learn

Lol. Its fine man.. ask away! Well.. there is no way to tell from looking at the seeds. Nooooo wayyy. The way they make them.. are from hermie plants.. (I think. lol. dont quote me on that. but thats what I thin. idk how else they could make them) but if you have a plant.. and its female.. and it starts budding or w.e.and then.. due to stress from lights or cutting too many leaves or something.. your plant turns hermie, and the male pollen sacs pollinate your buds.. the seeds it produces are feminized.

Soo you can actually make your own feminized seeds if you wanted.. Just stress your female plant out.. by leaving the lights on for like an hour or 2 in the middle of your 12 hours of darkness during flowering.. and eventually, it will start growing pollen sacs.. and WALLAH!! Feminized seeds!


Yea your right about the Co2 man, it falls, not rises, he just made a mistake in the video when labeling it. It corrected himself in the sidebar when people noticed it and said something in the comments lol

ooo. lol. ok. Yea I was pretty sure it falls. But thats good people corrected him.

So doe that mean you put the output of the Co2 somewhere near the top of the plant so it falls throughout the leaves?

Yes. It works best if you keep it above your plants.. some people will put it right next to their plant(s) and have like.. a stack of VHS tapes or DVDs or something to keep it higher than their plants.. I just have it on the top shelf in my closet and have the tubing facing down.. towards the plants. Ill take a pic in a few min for ya.. and ill post it up here so u can see what I mean, and see what one looks like.

And I dont mind you askin questions man. lol. I will do my best to answer them.. or if I dont know it.. I will try to find it somewhere else..

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I got tired of taking my co2 out at night so this is how I solved that problem.

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/308311-homemade-diy-show-off-your.html

Alright guys.. I did all the cloning and murdering of Mystery yesterday. lol. I took some pics of the clones. I took 6 from her. I dont plan of keeping 6.. Im planning on keeping like 2.. Thats if at least 2 live. lol. ** forgot too.. I did kind of an experimental clone as well... I just chopped the whole top of Mystery off, and stuck it in a pot with some soil just to see if it would grow.. lol. Idk.. I just wanted to try it out.. Do u think it will grow?**

The White Widow seedling is doing good too. I actually move her into a different pot with different soil.. Cuz I still had her in that soil that was all mixed up of different soils.. soo Iput her in the MG: Moisture Control soil. She looks happy. =)

I also took a couple pics of just some equipment I have... like my fan.. my lil air cleaner/ionizer.. my thermometer, my soil tester thingy.. and my homemade Co2 maker so that NightTrainn can see what one looks like and a good place to keep it. =)

And while I was in the closet taking pics of the equipment............ I couldnt help but take a couple bud shot.. =/ I got carried away at 1st, and took 27 pics of the plant. lol. but tomorrow is Friday.. adn I always do my updates on Tuesday and Friday.. sooo I will be taking pics tomorrow.. soo i deleted most of them. The only pics of the plant/buds I kept and will put up today are of the Siamese Bud. I took a couple of the Top of the bud.. and also took a few shots of the buds right underneath it..

Ughhh. I wish I could just show you guys in person all the growth thats happening right under the main bud. Since theres 4 buds instead of 2 trying to grow in that little space... its soo crowded.. theres buds/leaves poking out of everywhere... it looks AWESOME! I cant wait till like.. week 6/7 comes around. That buds gonna be unbelievable!! Hopefully with these pics you can kinda see what I see, adn see all the buds under there.. and u can tell how big the bud is gonna get!! =)

OK OK.. enough of me talking.. heres the pics!!

Mystery Clones

White Widow Seedling

Equipment

** Look on the TOP shelf, and you will see where I have the Co2 generator **

Siamese Bud Shots

ok. Thats it for pics for today.. I'll have a bunch more tomorrow. =)

MatanuskaValley said:

I got tired of taking my co2 out at night so this is how I solved that problem.

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/308311-homemade-diy-show-off-your.html

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oo wow. thats a pretty cool idea. and just a cool thread in general.. But damn.. I feel fumb. lol. I didnt kno u were supposed to take out the Co2 at night..? =/ I've been leaving it in there over night for the last 7 weeks... i had Noooo idea I wasnt supposed to. =/ well... i guess its good that nothin bad happened tho. Phewwww. But thanks for the Tip! And that thread is awesome! Bout to go check out your journals now too. I was Soooooo close to ordering Blue Venom.. Soooo close! I still want to order it eventually.

Heyy Guysssss... Its FRIIIIIDAYYYYY!! You know what that means.... yup.. Pictures, Pictures.. and MORE Pictures. =D

Just got home. making my coffee, then taking out Mary-J for her photo-shoot. lol. While I have her out.. might try to re-arrange her house a little bit, now what Mystery is gone.. (R.I.P.) I have some more room in my closet.. might try to move things around.. somethign to make it easier to take her out of th ecloset. because rihgt now.. shes soo big.. whenever i take her out.. its a pain in the ass.. gotta pull branches back.. soo they dont get caught against the walls.. or lights.. the plant is too big. lol. =) But i guess i shouldnt complain that shes too big. lol

Also.. I'll take some pics of the clones.. which look pretty healthy. =D And the WW Seedling is looking really good too. looking healothy.. She is going to be my experimental plant tho.. gonna TOP/FIM/LST her... I was gonna ask u guys a question..... you know how they have those long flower pot..?? i think theyre almost like flower boxes?? or something like that.. I was wondering if any1 has grown a plant in one of them before...? i was thinking maybe I could get one of those.. adn just tie/LST her all the way down the whole pot? i think that would be kinda cool. That would allow light to get to all those bud sites.. idk.. just an idea...

well i'll be back with some pics guys..

chb444220 said:

Heyy Guysssss... Its FRIIIIIDAYYYYY!! You know what that means.... yup.. Pictures, Pictures.. and MORE Pictures. =D

Just got home. making my coffee, then taking out Mary-J for her photo-shoot. lol. While I have her out.. might try to re-arrange her house a little bit, now what Mystery is gone.. (R.I.P.) I have some more room in my closet.. might try to move things around.. somethign to make it easier to take her out of th ecloset. because rihgt now.. shes soo big.. whenever i take her out.. its a pain in the ass.. gotta pull branches back.. soo they dont get caught against the walls.. or lights.. the plant is too big. lol. =) But i guess i shouldnt complain that shes too big. lol

Also.. I'll take some pics of the clones.. which look pretty healthy. =D And the WW Seedling is looking really good too. looking healothy.. She is going to be my experimental plant tho.. gonna TOP/FIM/LST her... I was gonna ask u guys a question..... you know how they have those long flower pot..?? i think theyre almost like flower boxes?? or something like that.. I was wondering if any1 has grown a plant in one of them before...? i was thinking maybe I could get one of those.. adn just tie/LST her all the way down the whole pot? i think that would be kinda cool. That would allow light to get to all those bud sites.. idk.. just an idea...

well i'll be back with some pics guys..

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the main problem with those long planters is depth .. you need ALOT of root room for a plant and they usually are pretty long enough but don't have much root room so they tend to stunt the plant...if you can get one at least as deep as a 4 gallon pot id say go for it ...if not get prepared for a little compact plant that will look like a auto-flower...been there done that...lol...

i think my next grow(after the 2 northern lights i got rooted now in vegg) is going to be in those new fabric pots...they are supposed to contribute to root branching which will contribute to killer bud production ... ill let you know how it goes and if they are worth the money ..

"Smart Pots" Yes I agree! Weed plants like the soil deeper rather than wider! I like the Smart Pot idea. I think I will try a 5 gal one for a mother plant, and see how it goes. I was looking for one at HTG when I was there but they sold out! You could always do the Top/LST/FIM idea you said, but just use a regular pot instead of a flower box pot! You will just have to find something else to tie her down to! But it is a good idea! Good Luck!

Ok Guys. heres the pics.. lots an dlots of pics. Hope u enjoyyyyy.

Strain : White Widow
Day : 52 - Day 31 of Flower

Strain : WW Seedling & Mystery Clones

** Got a question for you guys. Does this look like nute burn to you? Or do you think it might be from growing too close to the light? I can't tell. It did grow pretty close to the light, but it could be nute burn maybe? Here's a pic.

Hope you guys like the pics. As always.. I went pic crazy! lol. Something like 37 pics? I seem to be getting worse and worse.

I have a few buds that have a few orange hairs now too. Most buds have only 1-3, but at least I know they're starting to mature.

Still no "strong" smell yet, unless I touch the crystals. But when I do touch the crystals........ Mmmmmmmmmmmmm

citrus buds are awesome smelled a lot before my friend back in the day had some buds that smelled just like oranges and I've had some too not as strong his was outdoor. Anyways great pics as always. +rep if I can. To answer your question I would say yes it looks like overfertilization to me. Notice the color of your leaves how dark they are and blueish i would say too much nitrogen. Can't remember aren't you using MG or something? If so not much you can do will hopefully go away as your nutes are used up. Got some new pics myself check em out if you got the time.

Whoa damn that's a lotta pictures lol But that's why I luv this journal lol Its like getting to go to a wonderful weed museum or somethin lol I just set the scroll on my mouse and watched the slide show heh...Geez she looks so bushy! In a good way, seems to still be growing really together and not stretching a lot. I wonder if that means the buds will be bushy and together too? Kinda looks like it, especially with the buds that are right on each other


Oh good lookin on the pics of the Co2, I think I see how its done now, that's really coo that you can just make one homemade out of a bottle and some tubing or somthin like that...works good too...damn MatanuskaValley has a pretty creative idea on the DIY Co2 setup! I bet that works pretty good too...I've always read that a Co2 system can really help growth so threads on that are good to check out too...whew so much good info and so little time lol.

Well Im out for the night, take it easy everyone. Thanks for all the good pictures!

Nice work man! ive got my self a mother ww thats doing pretty good and 3 little babies i took like a week ago, today i actually took them out of the ziplock baggies i had them in ( cheap humidity dome). anyway yours is looking great hopefully my ww will follow. yours is just so bushy!! i started off with a leggy clone that i grew a little bigger then cut up, but im going to try and keep the new clones as short and bushy as possible. im definitely going to subscribe to this, i cant wait to see your finale yield and what not. good luck man!!

nice grow man,keep up the good work....p.s i like ur teddy in the background haha =D

Pipe Dream said:

citrus buds are awesome smelled a lot before my friend back in the day had some buds that smelled just like oranges and I've had some too not as strong his was outdoor. Anyways great pics as always. +rep if I can. To answer your question I would say yes it looks like overfertilization to me. Notice the color of your leaves how dark they are and blueish i would say too much nitrogen. Can't remember aren't you using MG or something? If so not much you can do will hopefully go away as your nutes are used up. Got some new pics myself check em out if you got the time.

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Yeaaa. these things smell fucking GREAT! I know Ikeep sayin this but never thought White Widow had a citrus/fruity smell to it. But i am really happy it does! Definitely a nice surprise!!

And thats for the attempt at +Rep. lol. and That stinks that it is nute burn.. Its wierd tho, cuz Im not using Vegging nutes, I'm using flowering nutes. They are 10-15-10... ? Not too too high in Nitrogen. O well, maybe I'll just cut back on the nutes for the next week.. see if that helps.

At 1st I thought it was just the light, because a few of the leaves have grown too close to the light, and burnt the ti[, and they looked like that. But now that you mentioned the thing about my leaves being so dark.. it would make sense.

And yes, I am using MG.. But I am also adding nutes (full strength) every other watering. So maybe I will just not use nutes for the next couple waterings.

And yea I'm gonna go check out your pics now man. =)

NightTrain said:

Whoa damn that's a lotta pictures lol But that's why I luv this journal lol Its like getting to go to a wonderful weed museum or somethin lol I just set the scroll on my mouse and watched the slide show heh...Geez she looks so bushy! In a good way, seems to still be growing really together and not stretching a lot. I wonder if that means the buds will be bushy and together too? Kinda looks like it, especially with the buds that are right on each other


Oh good lookin on the pics of the Co2, I think I see how its done now, that's really coo that you can just make one homemade out of a bottle and some tubing or somthin like that...works good too...damn MatanuskaValley has a pretty creative idea on the DIY Co2 setup! I bet that works pretty good too...I've always read that a Co2 system can really help growth so threads on that are good to check out too...whew so much good info and so little time lol.

Well Im out for the night, take it easy everyone. Thanks for all the good pictures!

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LMAO.. I like that... The WWM (Wonderful Weed Museum). Yeaa I always tend to get pic happy. and its sad too, cuz I delete a bunch, and then when I'm puting them up, I always leave out a few too. Soo theres really even more, which you can see at my photobucket account.. the name or w.e. is CJB444220..

I know your probly wondering why is cJb and not cHb... well.. when I joined this forum.. I was pretty high.. adn spelled it wrong.. my name is supposed to be CJB444220.. not CHB444220.. Well, nothing I can do now. Just a funny story I thought I'd share.

And yes.. FINALLY she has stopped growing outward! and yes she is VERY bushy.. and I know its not in a bad way. lol. I think its good! I found some twisty tie stuff at the dollar store.Its 150ft of it all coiled up, and a little thing on the end to cut off however much you need. Soooo when I took her out fo rher photo-shoot.. I went and tied up a few branches that were out too far. cuz my closet isn't that wide, and the branches are growing up against the wall. But now they're good. Might go and tie up a few more on Tuesday.

But I do think the buds will be nice and thick! ESPECIALLY the Siamese/Twin buds. They are already really big.thick. I wouldn't doubt it if they were thicker/bigger than the main cola. lol. It already looks that way.

And no problem on the pic of the Co2. My camera is always right in my room, so it doesnt take long to take pics.. soo I don't mind. It makes it a lot easier than trying to explain it all. lol

And yes, that is a great idea. I bet after the night time. When he opens up the top, theres a nice big burst of Co2. Im sure the plants LOVE that! But yea, it's hard to tell whether or not my Co2 has an affect on the plants or not. the only way I'd be able to tell is if I had 2 clones, that were identical, and had them in 2 seperate closets, with the same soil/pot/light/light schedule, and grew 1 WITH homemade Co2, and one WITHOUT... and see if I noticed a diffrence. But I only have 1 closet, and cant even get 1 fucking clone to live, lol, never mind 2.

Ooooo yeaaaaa... I've been meaning to ask you.. when are you gonna start up a grow?? Or have you already started? Or are you just trying to learn, but maybe not grow for a while? I'm just curious. If you do start one, and you have a little bit of money. Definitely go to Nirvana for your seeds. AK-48 seems to be the most popular strain there, and one of the easiest to grow, so you might want to try that.

Well take it easy man. And thanks for all the compliments!!

AudiA6Driver said:

Nice work man! ive got my self a mother ww thats doing pretty good and 3 little babies i took like a week ago, today i actually took them out of the ziplock baggies i had them in ( cheap humidity dome). anyway yours is looking great hopefully my ww will follow. yours is just so bushy!! i started off with a leggy clone that i grew a little bigger then cut up, but im going to try and keep the new clones as short and bushy as possible. im definitely going to subscribe to this, i cant wait to see your finale yield and what not. good luck man!!

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Thanks man! Yeaa I want to eventually make a mother plant.. I think I might try it with the new seedling I have growing. I would like to work with just clones... but I still have trouble with keeping clones alive. haha. And heyy, I used sandwich baggies for my humidity dome for a little while too.

And yes, she is a bushy one. Still not sure why or how she became like that? The only thing I can think of is cuz I had soo many lights surrounding her since she sprouted... she never needed to reach/stretch for light. Sooo you might wanna try that with your clones if you really wanna keep them short and bushy. Just keep the lights as close as possible without burning them.. you can usually keep them about 2 inches away and be good. Thats if your using CFL's.. not sure what your using. Is your WW from Nirvana?