Nirvana packs tend to only have 1 nice lady per 10 pack. They are a pheno hunting kind of seed stock. Ive found 3-4 phenos that would hold their own with any elite, but the other 100+ plants out of those seed packs was not good, lol.
who is i spent thousands and packs of seeds and not one stinker not one keeper only things i kept was sour livers and double grape from mephisto but there autos i want some reg seed who has the
Nirvana's 'ICE' is fairly stinky. It was bred using old Shiva skunk, afghan and something else. I couldn't keep it because of the smell. I'll give it a go again once prohibition ends in NY
Well maybe whoever it was talked to ONI, my convo in pm was with Harry Palms. He told me that his keeper of KC Brains is the only old Dutch genetics he uses. Either way mango and papaya are the same genetics, Nir just f2'd them.
I wouldn't dought what they wasn't further down the line than f2s, a lot of the European breeders, unlike American breeders, take thier lines to f3,4,5 before they are released.
seedsman sells the fire for more than the american breeders do in america...just buy from them direct, the US banks are still cheaper than ordering american genetics from overseas. Useful is 60 a pack, bodhi is 70, brisco's beans are only 40 a pack. Stop using the shitty euro banks.
By F2 I mean they copied it from KC seeds. I'm sure they have used plenty of mom's and dad's threw the years.
Upon further reading now im not sure they used KC Brains exact genetics. I am left a bit confused. KC used the original mango that dates back to the 60s and crossed it with KC33 and thats the mango they represent today. Now while it says Nirvana copied or got there idea from KC Brains it doesnt go into detail, but does say papaya was created by crossing citral #13 x ice#2 by which they put there own twist on it and from a little bit of reading it seems the papaya is the preferred choice. So going by that bit of info i dont see no copying, they just recreated it.
Well as you may know Dutch breeders are notorious for never giving their true parentage out. So all I know for sure is KC said they used an old afghani x kc33 outside of that who knows.
Thats why theyre only $20.
White Label made BOG, didn they. There was some fire in some of that old White Label stuff. I'd always heard back in the day, Nirvana got the mom's or seeds and crossed everything to either a skunk1 or afghani.
With my experience, I wouldn't say all the other phenos sucked, I had a few decent plants with one stand out. Also worth mentioning the male to female ratio was close to 50:50, but i usually had more females. Back when i bought mine they were 24 bucks a pack, idk what theyre going for now, but i agree with Eso what more can you expect from a twenty dollar pack of seeds. Damn well worth it to me. Would i rather grow some of the more well known breeders packs? Sure! But when you take into consideration they cost 5 to 10 times more, idk! I guess it would depend on a guys space. 10-12 seeds for $200 vs 80-100 seeds for $200. I guess theres a lot of different perspectives here, but for the budget grower theres a lot of fire to be found.
Yes BOG used White Label seeds Bubblegum . White label seeds were made by Sensi using their moms so they were exactly the same. I believe technically the bubblegum clone used by Sensi was given to him by Adam when he worked for Sensi before starting CIA which became KGB and then THseeds.
Yea last time I ran nirvana was close to 20 years ago, they been around a long time no doubt
That sucks, similar thing happened to flying Dutchman, their pot of gold was my favorite Indica, but you need like 50 plants to find the right pheno now.
