Nirvana Bubblelicious Waterfarm Scrog in a Secret Jardin Tent 600 Watts

kool. keep us posted on how long it takes for roots to grow. loving the set up

Hey Serapis dude,

Think this is my first post lol, Have been reading a lot of grow journals and I'm following your grow with much anticipation It's looking great so far! I too have been inspired by the 8th wonder that is Scottyballs!

I am moving into my own place soon with my gf and I have a small in-built closet that I am hoping to use as a grow space, with 1 waterfarm and using a SCROG, I'm thinking of starting off with some Aurora Indica, It will be my first grow ever and I plan to get a journal up, so that other first time growers can learn from my mistakes (as I'm sure I'll make LOTS lol) and also hopefully for some input from experienced growers on here.

I have a hell of a lot of questions still, but I will do my own research for the most part instead of pestering you, so far you have answered quite a few things in this thread that I haven't quite understood so many thanks for that!

The one question that burns my brain that I have for you though is - and I know you have said how easy it is to use a waterfarm - but do you really think it would be easy enough for a first time grower like myself? Bear in mind I have no experience in actually growing anything, but I'd like to think I have quite a lot of common sense and I can pick things up very quickly.

Also just wanted to ask you about the plastic SCROG you have, would you recommend a plastic one as opposed to a chicken wire version like Scotty's? My reasoning is that with the chicken wire being metal and rigid, and the holes being a lot smaller than the plastic trellace, that pulling the tops back through them could easily lend to the cutting/scraping of a steam if you're not 110% concentrating, or are the stems small and thin enough to do this at the time you need train them?

Anyway, hope they made sense lol. If I can figure out how to add a subscription to the thread I will, atm I just have it bookmarked I'll try and give this "rep" people talk about too

Thanks man, and good luck!

On top of the first post on this page there is a drop down menu called thread tools then just click "Subscribe to this Thread"

"Am I missing any details or overlooking the obvious on anything here? I feel as if I am... If I had a small tent, I'd set up the clones to make fem seeds... I may still do this after some thought"

@ serapis. great work, love the fogger. Q. for you, if i may. How do you do fem seeds or can you provide a link or some sort. Thanks. would like to know how YOU do it. like the way you operate.

Crystal Toy said:

"Am I missing any details or overlooking the obvious on anything here? I feel as if I am... If I had a small tent, I'd set up the clones to make fem seeds... I may still do this after some thought"

@ serapis. great work, love the fogger. Q. for you, if i may. How do you do fem seeds or can you provide a link or some sort. Thanks. would like to know how YOU do it. like the way you operate.

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Firstly, thanks for the nice words. I have never bred on purpose, so when I do, it will be my first attempt. I'm going to purchase some colloidal silver and treat a female clone for about 10 days. When she starts to grow balls, I'll harvest the pollen and then pollinate a few flowers in a grow and let those flowers seed. This is a great way to 'shut down' a strain you have been growing and switch over to another strain. With seeds, you can resurrect your killer strain several years down the road.

I considered just using the ruderallis method of letting an overripe bud produce some seed, but that method is unreliable. I'd like to be able to produce seed whenever I need it. In my small operation, a couple of hundred seeds of one strain is all I need. I'll never need to seed that strain again. I have space here in the house, I just have to think this one through.

VooDude™;5246533 said:

Hey Serapis dude,

Think this is my first post lol, Have been reading a lot of grow journals and I'm following your grow with much anticipation It's looking great so far! I too have been inspired by the 8th wonder that is Scottyballs!

I am moving into my own place soon with my gf and I have a small in-built closet that I am hoping to use as a grow space, with 1 waterfarm and using a SCROG, I'm thinking of starting off with some Aurora Indica, It will be my first grow ever and I plan to get a journal up, so that other first time growers can learn from my mistakes (as I'm sure I'll make LOTS lol) and also hopefully for some input from experienced growers on here.

I have a hell of a lot of questions still, but I will do my own research for the most part instead of pestering you, so far you have answered quite a few things in this thread that I haven't quite understood so many thanks for that!

The one question that burns my brain that I have for you though is - and I know you have said how easy it is to use a waterfarm - but do you really think it would be easy enough for a first time grower like myself? Bear in mind I have no experience in actually growing anything, but I'd like to think I have quite a lot of common sense and I can pick things up very quickly.

Also just wanted to ask you about the plastic SCROG you have, would you recommend a plastic one as opposed to a chicken wire version like Scotty's? My reasoning is that with the chicken wire being metal and rigid, and the holes being a lot smaller than the plastic trellace, that pulling the tops back through them could easily lend to the cutting/scraping of a steam if you're not 110% concentrating, or are the stems small and thin enough to do this at the time you need train them?

Anyway, hope they made sense lol. If I can figure out how to add a subscription to the thread I will, atm I just have it bookmarked I'll try and give this "rep" people talk about too

Thanks man, and good luck!

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I think a lot of people just use what they have on hand or can find. I know for sure that I did not want to have to build one. I have seen the elaborate scrog screen builds with wood, hardware, etc... I wanted something quick and easy. Some plastic fencing and a couple of bungee cords later, I have one that works. I do intend to build something that can roll out of the tent somewhat so that I can work the back. Also, I want to use a formed scrog soon, in the shape of half of a circle. I've seen them and feel they get better light exposure on the ends.

redrum83420 said:

kool. keep us posted on how long it takes for roots to grow. loving the set up

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I love that bucket too. The dome should arrive today, but so far, haven't needed it. I'll definitely post when I see roots...

Thats a nice cloning bucket, a very simple and neat set up.

jimbizzzale67123 said:

Thats a nice cloning bucket, a very simple and neat set up.

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I love it! I have never been so excited by a new toy.... The cuttings look just as alive as the minute I took them. No misting or dome needed. No sprayers, no drips, no pump noise.... just my lil mini fogger.... kickin ass and takin names...

Serapis said:

I think a lot of people just use what they have on hand or can find. I know for sure that I did not want to have to build one. I have seen the elaborate scrog screen builds with wood, hardware, etc... I wanted something quick and easy. Some plastic fencing and a couple of bungee cords later, I have one that works. I do intend to build something that can roll out of the tent somewhat so that I can work the back. Also, I want to use a formed scrog soon, in the shape of half of a circle. I've seen them and feel they get better light exposure on the ends.

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Nice one, ty

@WakethBaketh - Got it ty

Crystal Toy said:

"Am I missing any details or overlooking the obvious on anything here? I feel as if I am... If I had a small tent, I'd set up the clones to make fem seeds... I may still do this after some thought"

@ serapis. great work, love the fogger. Q. for you, if i may. How do you do fem seeds or can you provide a link or some sort. Thanks. would like to know how YOU do it. like the way you operate.

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Hi Crystal Toy,

I half expected Serapis to point you at my Colloidal Silver thread, but as he hasn't I may as well do it instead.

Follow the link in my sig.

Grumpy Old Dreamer said:

Hi Crystal Toy,

I half expected Serapis to point you at my Colloidal Silver thread, but as he hasn't I may as well do it instead.

Follow the link in my sig.

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It crossed my mind, but I never b'marked it. Thanks for providing the link. From what i remember of it, he even shows you how to make your own colloidal silver. I'm just going to buy some spray from an online retailer and have a go.

Serapis said:

It crossed my mind, but I never b'marked it. Thanks for providing the link. From what i remember of it, he even shows you how to make your own colloidal silver. I'm just going to buy some spray from an online retailer and have a go.

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Thank you serapis and grumpy, will check it out for sure. love making my own seeds and would love to have them femmed.

Welcome to da family!:

Today is a very exciting day for me. Just as I am about to give up on both seeds, I notice a slight bump on the surface of the Pineapple Express pellet. I gently moved the peat aside and waiting there for my view, was a baby cotyledon leaf. A tear nearly escaped my arid ducts, as I danced around with glee. This had to have been the longest germination session ever; At least it felt like it. I have included a picture of this momentous occasion and I hope that all of you will help me celebrate, with a lift of your piece and a light from your Bic.

Cloning Bucket:

Day 3

The dome top arrived, but I'm currently still not using it. The centers of the hollow stems have filled with a white woody looking substance. This literally happened within the last few hours. I've heard of visible roots in 5 days.... we shall see. Sooner or later, those cuttings are going to want food. I have a weak foliar solution mixed up. The only problem with fogging my cuttings is that nutrients can't travel in the fog and reach the roots. I'll have to feed the cuttings through foliar feeding, spraying it directly on the leaves, until all the cuttings have enough roots for running DWC. At that time, I'll add another gallon and a half of water, remove the fogger and add nutrients. The roots can feed directly. I'll add some hydroton, slip the whole thing into a complete net pot and place it back in it's location in the bucket.

I figure that under the flouros, the bucket as a DWC can support the plants for up to two weeks, at which time they'll need bigger accommodations. I need to design a dripper or DWC system to support 4" net pots. I figure I can easily transfer a 4" DWC plant to a waterfarm. I have seen it done with a big diameter piece of PVC pipe. They place hydroton around the empty pipe. The roots and then the plant are lowered into the pipe. The pipe is quickly lifted up off of the plant and the hydroton falls into place covering up the roots.

Flowering Madly:

TEMP: 74-82Humidity: 51-59%
Days in cycle: 17
PH 5.8
ppm 1600

The tent is causing me great happiness. The karma emitted from it has me beaming. The screen is nearly full of gorgeous tops that are thickening up the stems and putting on the flowers fast and heavy. There is not a single ill looking leaf. The ppms seem high, but that is where the plants are leveling out at. The smaller one is slightly lower, around 1500 ppm.. Between the two of them, they are drinking about 1.5 gallons a day. Today I did not top off fertilizer, only water. This lowered the ppms enough for me to add some Drip Clean. I'll be fresh water cycling to remove any salts in the next day or two.

I have been spending about 30 minutes a day working the screen top, to make sure every bud site has direct light. It isn't easy. The screen contains over 45 tops, many of them already 8"-12" above the screen. This will also be my first harvest where my fine Fiskar snips won't be sufficient enough to cut through the trunk at harvest time.

I'll update with pics in a day or two. I don't want to hit my quota for uploads too soon. It seems that every day they are still stretching. I love my 600w HPS plus bulb and reflector.

Thanks for reading!!

looking amazing so far. cant wait to see that screen

thats one thing i love about the waterfarm. When you sit the seed in on the hydroton you can see the tap root growing and don't have to come back every hour and pace around wondering if the seed is going to come up lol

two2brains said:

thats one thing i love about the waterfarm. When you sit the seed in on the hydroton you can see the tap root growing and don't have to come back every hour and pace around wondering if the seed is going to come up lol

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I was nervous at first by just placing that little PE seed with its tiny taproot into the hydroton but she took off and is doing great.

jimbizzzale67123 said:

I was nervous at first by just placing that little PE seed with its tiny taproot into the hydroton but she took off and is doing great.

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Well, now that I have some 2" net pots, I'll consider soaking seeds and using that method. If my seed falls too far down, I can always retrieve it by emptying the net pot out. I had done a seed on the hydroton once before and I was sure the seed was going to fall and end up in the res....

Update:

Not much new going on, other than growth and the number of tops and flowers. I got in some plant yoyos, you may see one in one of the pics. They are great for holding up heavy buds, or for training plants. I got 10 of them, and plan to give them a work out on the next scrog.

Everything in the nursery is going well. I have given up on the UFO Kandy Kush. The tap isn't getting any bigger. Why it doesn't look dead, it hasn't grown in 3 days, this is after over a week in the peat pellet. Cuttings are looking great, day 4. The bottom of the stems have turned brownish-green where they were dipped in Clonex. Tiny, almost microscopic, white bumps are forming. I suspect we'll be looking at roots by the weekend's dawn.

looking good thought you would like to know,was at my local hydro shop the other day and we were talking nutes i told him my only nute was FNB and was loving it. He laughed and told me he has been doing the same for a while now with great success and also thought as those add ons were a waste of money no need,just like our man Scotty said all gimicks.

looking nice and healthy their buddies up real good