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IrieRoots

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Yo @IrieRoots you think my qb is too powerful if its too close? Plants not looking the happiest and slurries are good. I raised it a few inches see what that does. My co2 is 600ppm wondering if the qb is too strong for that low of co2. Might b upgrading to a sealed room boys!
600 ppm not bad at all for an air extracted grow. Could definitely be the QB, if that's the case they should snap back. Are your slurries on the low end? They could just want more feed too.....nectar addicts!!
 

loop718

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600 ppm not bad at all for an air extracted grow. Could definitely be the QB, if that's the case they should snap back. Are your slurries on the low end? They could just want more feed too.....nectar addicts!!
These hogs are always on the low end. I get em where i want em then bam right back to upper 100s. I had them chilling around 200-250 and gave them the first tea cause i figured they gotta have some micro. After i gave them that we went right back to 150-180 lol. Feeding full dose roman everyday except kraken and pegasus. I pulled the lights up a little bit they look better but they also got 1100ppm of nectar goodness so who knows. The t5 ones are just booming in comparison tho. I think the jump over to the qb might of stressed them a little bit. Over all shits looking really good tho.
 

IrieRoots

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These hogs are always on the low end. I get em where i want em then bam right back to upper 100s. I had them chilling around 200-250 and gave them the first tea cause i figured they gotta have some micro. After i gave them that we went right back to 150-180 lol. Feeding full dose roman everyday except kraken and pegasus. I pulled the lights up a little bit they look better but they also got 1100ppm of nectar goodness so who knows. The t5 ones are just booming in comparison tho. I think the jump over to the qb might of stressed them a little bit. Over all shits looking really good tho.
I would rather chase the low ppms through the grow then have to deal with high. I go through the same struggle, and soon as I think I can hit a tea day, the ppms go back down. I think if the plant is eating that fast, then there is no need to keep adding microbials because they are already in the rootzone in all out war for food and obviously the plant is gobbling it up too. So I am holding back the microbials and TopD to close the ppm gap so I can get into bloom with a loaded soil. I would have better feedback for this but I let some plants get away from me and been busting my ass to make it work. Had plants get too big so been rearranging and cleaning, up potting, cloning, culling......there isn't enough hours in the Damn day.
 

bubba73

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what I do with a heavy feeder is double up on the nutrients , not every feed but hit hard then check slurries then if warranted hit them again till I get that range or upper range then hit them with a tea , maybe a herc or both ....
 

IrieRoots

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what I do with a heavy feeder is double up on the nutrients , not every feed but hit hard then check slurries then if warranted hit them again till I get that range or upper range then hit them with a tea , maybe a herc or both ....
My problem when I need to double up feeds is my water source, whenever I mix over 1300 ppms it takes so much Oly up that my final feed ppm drops to 1100 or less. I've found that 1200 remains unaffected. Those nutes still go in the rootzone but they are tied up till a microbe breaks them back down. Which is fine but when I need a heavy available feed, I pair it with a foliar if possible, or use Full-on. I don't have this issue with known genetics because I've learned how to feed them, but when it comes to first runs there is always a learning curve.
 

IrieRoots

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I have good water, 7.0 - 7.5 ph and 40 - 80 ppms depending on season. Its just something in there reacting with the acids and the oly.......no matter how hot I make my feeds over 1300 ppm, they always ph to 1190 ppm, it's like a sweet spot for soluble nutrients & minerals in my water .....either that or its a sign to play lotto
pick 4 #s 1-1-9-0 . If its on a genetic keeper, I eventually learn how to keep the slurries in range so this is a none issue.
 

loop718

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what I do with a heavy feeder is double up on the nutrients , not every feed but hit hard then check slurries then if warranted hit them again till I get that range or upper range then hit them with a tea , maybe a herc or both ....
Thats what im thinking bubba. Do you double everything? Right now im feeding in order MM, Gaia, AA, DD, Hygia, Persephone, AE, HH, Zues then i ph and add SLF.
 

loop718

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I do the 1 oz. When drenching once a week or so. Its an all around bad ass product, it's a nice ph down too if you over shoot. I like using it in maintenance flushes too but it really shines for mid bloom on to bring out profiles!!
Now when you add your inoculants once a week do you add them to your tea or your feed?
 

IrieRoots

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Now when you add your inoculants once a week do you add them to your tea or your feed?
It depends......if it's a brewed AACT or a powdered EZ TEA I don't add any liquid innoculants to these type of teas. If I'm doing a nectar microbe bump tea recipe then will use the liquids. So like with EM1 I like it in a Herc or Gaia maintenance flush if things are going smoothly but if combating low ppms just throw it in with feeds with your SLF once a week.
 

bubba73

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Thats what im thinking bubba. Do you double everything? Right now im feeding in order MM, Gaia, AA, DD, Hygia, Persephone, AE, HH, Zues then i ph and add SLF.
only question I have is hygia ... why ? should only be used if you are having dry soil issues or be away for a couple days so the soil is not dry .... I would leave hygia out when you double up .....

MM -10ML , Gaia -10 ml , AA-30ml , DD -20ml , Persephone -10ml , AE-10ml , HH-30ml , Zeus -5ml ( every other feed ) PH , SFL100 -10ml ....to 1/2 gallon ... hygia maybe in flower and then mite not always need it .....
 
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loop718

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only question I have is hygia ... why ? should only be used if you are having dry soil issues or be away for a couple days so the soil is not dry .... I would leave hygia out when you double up .....

MM -10ML , Gaia -10 ml , AA-30ml , DD -20ml , Persephone -5ml (1xweek) , AE-10ml , HH-30ml , Zeus -5ml ( every other feed ) PH , SFL100 -10ml ....to 1/2 gallon ... hygia maybe in flower and then mite not always need it .....
Idk i read its the bees knees for your microbes. Why so light on the persephone? The feed schedule calls for a lot of persephone.
 

IrieRoots

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Idk i read its the bees knees for your microbes. Why so light on the persephone? The feed schedule calls for a lot of persephone.
Yucca is great stuff, but can leave soil wet longer if not carefull, just something to watch out for when using. Its also a great fungal food for mid bloom. So run Kraken through transition and early bloom, the use Yucca paired with Persephones week 3-6, then cut and finish with aphrodites!!

The feed schedule is very general and too broad, a list of averages that is safe to apply across different stages.
 

IrieRoots

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20 ml Demeters is to satisfy Loops monster light and try to get his soil ppms bumped up. Plus its a flavor enhancer!!
Plus its only every other feed........but if we can get his soil ppm buffer up, the demand for calcium is just gonna stay pinned and will prolly need to maintain it till its time to back off and start leaning towards ripening.
 

bubba73

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Idk i read its the bees knees for your microbes. Why so light on the persephone? The feed schedule calls for a lot of persephone.
my fuck up......you want 10ml every feed , flower you can go as high as 30ml.....ill correct it .....
 
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