Newbie to hydro:Systems, systems, systems? Check this one out, any good?

Hi.
I'm a traditional indoor dirtbag grower who wants badly to get into hydro as the benefits really seem to outweigh the xtra hassle of managing a hydro system. I have been investigating the whole hydro thing for a few days on the net now trying to find one which is reasonably low maintenance yet effective...Being a traditional dirt grower and a MM cardholder who is limited to a max of six plants, I like to grow BIG (even though there is more time involved; the yields are significantly and proportionately higher w/ BIG plants when you are limited to only being able to grow six at a time...)

What is odd is it seems as most hydro growers seem happy w/ yields of a few oz's from each plant and I have seen very little reference to growing BIG plants w/ hydro technology. Is there a specific reason for this? Is hydro technology not suitable for big weeds that will yield 1 lb. plus; as some of my greenhouse monsters in the past have?

Anyway, since I want to go big and also hydro, I am wondering if the below DWC/ NTF system would be an appropriate system? I plan to use 6" PVC and add pump intake / airstone reservoirs in the form of large 6" T fittings at directly opposite ends of this existing design in an attempt to maximize the whole bubble process and also give me an added nutrient solution reservoir at the same time. Net pot size would be 5". Each side would be 6 feet long and have only 3 plants on each side, so there would be plenty of aerated nutirient solution available for the root systems of 6 good sized weeds.

Below is a pic., description and link to the basic system design I wish to improve upon and use.

Any commentary from hydro growers would be most welcome concerning the subject of both growing BIG weeds w/ hydro and also the appropriateness of system.


This homemade hydroponics system is a combination system using two different techniques. It is similar to a nutrient film technique (NFT) in the way the nutrient solution is continuously circulated through the system. The depth of the nutrient solution is kept high, allowing the roots of your plants to bathe constantly in the solution. In this way the system is similar to the deep water culture technique.

The system shown here was made with two 10 ft pieces of 4 inch PVC. It is important to note that you may need to use 6 inch PVC instead of 4 inch. A 6 inch pipe will give you twice as much root volume area. This decision depends mainly on what type of plants you have in your garden.

The system was PVC glued together in the shape of a "U". The open ends were capped, and the plant holes were drilled with a 3 inch hole saw about every 12 inches.



A couple of airstones are used to aerate the nutrient solution. At one end of the hydroponics system, a small aquarium pump (about 60 GPH) transfers water from one capped end to the other. This sets up a continuous circulation, which evenly distributes the oxygen through all parts of the system and prevents your plants from drowning.
http://www.jasons-indoor-guide-to-organic-and-hydroponics-gardening.com/homemade-hydroponics-system-7.html
 

captiankush

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I would start with a basic hydro system just to learn it and then work my way up.

BTW, its better than dirt in a couple of ways.

A: you have full control over what the plant is taking in

B: You can manage it easier

In soil I was always worried about my soil PH and what might be lurking in it. Now in hydro if I even get the smallest bit of paranoia over what my girls are in taking I just do a res change and my worries are gone.

The secret to healthy happy plants is environment. Make sure they get plenty of Air, Light and nutrients and you will be kosher. If your grow area is uncomfortable for you then the plants think it sucks too, ya dig?

Good luck.
 
Looks awesome to me! Very desirable.
Thanks for the input, Roseman.

I just got done reading (twice over, actually!) your tutorial on Bubbleponics, and I learned more there about hydro than any of the places I have been on the web...Up until then I was just surfing the web picking up bits and pieces on hydro growing and trying to make sense of it all, but your tutorial pretty much put it all together for me as far as what is needed for a successful hydro grow. I have tons of old storage tubs hanging around in the garage; if I wasn't limited to just 6 plants at a time I would be going for it w/ your system design. I notice that there are 7" net pots available for hydro growing; what about doing a modified storage tub bubbler (like your 6 pot system) but w/ two 7" net pots instead along w/ a few minor system changes to accommodate the size of two large plants instead of 6 smaller ones...Has anyone ever tried such a thing?

Update: just saw your pics, Roseman. Looks like you are getting some nice bushes out of your 6 plant storage tub systems. I think I am going to try a two or three pot system using 2 or 3 7" net pots in a tub; w/ a few minor system changes to accommodate larger bushes. I just looked at the cost of 6" PVC fittings ($29 for one 6" T, for example), and I think I will start out w/ a tub irrigation bubble system instead!
 

captiankush

Well-Known Member
Look at this simple system here:
Roseman's DIY Bubbleponics Tutorial - Marijuana Growing

look at what I get with it here:
MY PICS < scroll down that page
mmm...bubbles



This is only 1 week after adding a 6" air stone to my GH waterfarm, the strain is strawberry cough....

I took the basic water farm system and added an air-stone, nothing original but it turns these simple, low cost drip systems into a better hybrid bubble drip system that is so far doing well...total cost was 70 USD including the nutes.

Not meaning to hijack just wanted to point out what can be done if your looking to get a good intro to hydro on the cheap.
 

wiseguy316

Well-Known Member
If you plan to grow large plants with a set up like that, you will definately need a support in the middle to anchor the plant to. 5 gal buckets support trees very nice. I think most don't grow huge plants due to light pentration.
 
If you plan to grow large plants with a set up like that, you will definately need a support in the middle to anchor the plant to. 5 gal buckets support trees very nice. I think most don't grow huge plants due to light pentration.
I usually run sidelighting in the form of 48" T8 fixtures on the side w/ 6500K and 5000K mixed tubes during the growth stage. However, these bushes are grown in 12 gallon pots w/ soil & amenities.

I want to try hydro for the same thing as growth time is accelerated along w/ much higher yields (up to 8 times per hectare according to NASA studies conducted w/ corn, hemp and alfalfa) than the same plants grown in a soil medium. :mrgreen:
 
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