Newbie on LED..

cdd10

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So I currently use HID in a 39x39x79" tent. I would like to cut down on heat issues and electricity. I was wondering what kind of LED I would go with for the 3x3 area. I know wattage isn't same as HID.. Like a 840w LED would be like a 400w HID have I read correctly or misunderstood?
 

gk skunky

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Yeah you're confused. Now a lot of manufacturers of LEDs market models as the wattage rating of each diode times the number of diodes. So a lot of 300W lights are 100-3W LEDs but they aren't really running at 300W, more like a little over half of that. Though some do advertise more along the lines of actual watts. I'm doing a small 2x3 test grow using an area 51 xgs 190 that uses 190W on full force. This is my first round but I'm hoping it will compare to what I could accomplish with a 400 HPS.
 

cdd10

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Ohhhh I see. Well when I bought my grow tent it said to use with LED the recommended was 135w - 240w. Then I got to reading through the LED section and I was like like ehhh maybe 240w wouldn't be good enough. Lol
 

Bad Karma

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Yeah you're confused. Now a lot of manufacturers of LEDs market models as the wattage rating of each diode times the number of diodes. So a lot of 300W lights are 100-3W LEDs but they aren't really running at 300W, more like a little over half of that. Though some do advertise more along the lines of actual watts. I'm doing a small 2x3 test grow using an area 51 xgs 190 that uses 190W on full force. This is my first round but I'm hoping it will compare to what I could accomplish with a 400 HPS.
The XGS should give you resultss in the same neighborhood as your 400W HPS, probably a little less, but pretty close.


Ohhhh I see. Well when I bought my grow tent it said to use with LED the recommended was 135w - 240w. Then I got to reading through the LED section and I was like like ehhh maybe 240w wouldn't be good enough. Lol
Let me guess, you have a tent from Gotham Hydro?
They would be the ones recommending LED lights in those wattages, as they correspond to the ones they sell.
Anyways, the minimum for flowering a tent like yours would be the light that gk skunky mentioned, the XGS-190 by Area 51.
Now depending on how big your budget is, and what you want your yield to be, you may want two units (XGS or SGS) for a 39"x39" area.
But for overall value, quality, and performance, we consider Area 51's LED lights to be the best bang for the buck (I use them myself).
Be wary of LED lights sold on ebay and amazon, they don't last long, and usually don't perform very well.
 

cdd10

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It was HTG Supply. It just had both the hid and led suggested uses with the information :) but thanks for the information you helped me a lot :)
 

blowincherrypie

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Ya HTG lists their watts funny as well.. I've got two SGS in my 3x3 and it's just about perfect (I'm always wanting more lol.)
 

cdd10

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Ya HTG lists their watts funny as well.. I've got two SGS in my 3x3 and it's just about perfect (I'm always wanting more lol.)
Do you LST? I'm thinking of using uncle Ben topping technique. Try that out for a grow. How many plants do you stuff in your 3x3?
 

qroox

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i wouldn't go LED mate. Too soon to purchase..Still a lot to improve.They are on a another level but they still have a ton to improve..like penetration.It's the sum up of what i've read so far...They are NOT bad...just not the best light set up right now.
 

cdd10

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i wouldn't go LED mate. Too soon to purchase..Still a lot to improve.They are on a another level but they still have a ton to improve..like penetration.It's the sum up of what i've read so far...They are NOT bad...just not the best light set up right now.
:) always watching out for me qroox Lmao
 

blowincherrypie

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Do you LST? I'm thinking of using uncle Ben topping technique. Try that out for a grow. How many plants do you stuff in your 3x3?
Yes I do LST, n I personally prefer 3-4 medium sized plants. I use Area 51 lamps and the 5w CREE gets me plenty of penetration.

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qroox

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cant wait to smoke my blueberries mate..i need that heavy artillery right now :D (it's not like i have at least 3 months to go :P)
 
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