newbie here for advice

I am posting in the newb section because this is my first post and I have a question about airy buds.
I am no rooky gardener and although I don't partake in the benefits of THC, I have grown a few plants in the past, just for something new.

The story on the plant is: I got the plant 4 weeks ago, from a friend that didn't know jack about these plants and allowed the plant to contract mites and allowed it to become very undernurished. Kind of like getting a dog off the streets. The leaves were all yellow, filled with spots and it's in a 1/2 Gal. pot. Also, the plant has been outdoors alsmost it's whole life and I don't know exactly when it started flowering, because it was in that stage when I got it.The plant is appearently an auto plant for it is in full flower and it's July in the North. We have close to 16hrs of daylight. I also have no idea what strain it is either.
I got the nutes to it, it looks ten times better and I have the plant on a 12/12 cycle of the closet and the greenhouse. I don't feel that the plant will benefit from replanting and don't want to add mite medicine due to it being in the flower stage, and once harvested it will go back to it's owner cured and in a jar. I am an organic farmer and appreciate clean goods. I believe the owner wopuld rather burn mites than chems.
Here are the finer points of what I have done to the plant:
Day 1.......Heavy flush with 7.0 well water. started the photo cycle change. The soils start PH was 7.0 also.
Day 2,3....put it in the Greenhouse for 12 hrs and back to the closet for 12. Temps. are 30
degrees F. lower in the closet holds 61 degrees F.
Day 4.......Watered with a bat Gauno tea Ph'd to 6.5 and she perked up big time from then on.
Day 5,6,7.Only watered as needed with 7.0 well water continuing photo cycle.
Week 2.....trimmed out all the dead leaves a few of the lower limbs and lollie popped the plant. I pinched a
few really stretchy tips also.
Added in a mollasses tea folier every other day. and watered with 7.0 well water. also
introduced CO2 to the closet...1 psi for 12hrs. a day for 3 days. yeah a complete
drench....she showed signs of a lot of new growth, but no tightening of the flowers
Week 3.... I gave one folier of mollasses and worm casting tea, but sraight 7.0 well water all week and
still on the 12/12, cut out the nightly CO2. She is still showing very good growth, but no
tightening.
Week 4.....No ferts at all this week so far just well water and 12/12 photo.


From what I have gathered from the owner and the time that I have had the plant, it may be on around week 7 or 8 of flowering.
I am pretty sure that the pot size is the main culprit, but not sure what direction to go now. Possibly need warmer nights, maybe I need to folier spray the Jamacian Bat tea? The mites may be causing more harm than I realize too.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.......

Co2 in the dark is not usable by the plant.

zero consumption?

She looks a bit gang-raped, but you seem to be nursing her back to healthy fairly well. Just go with it, it's a little to late to re-pot without stressing her more.

112286187 said:

zero consumption?

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If they do use anything at all at night, which i am pretty sure they do not, it is in amounts much smaller than what is available in the air.

I would address the mite issue yesterday. There are products like mighty wash that can be applied safely.
Throw some ladybugs at it. I got 1500 online very cheap. Mighty wash is a bit spendy but there are also
some organic recipes floating around using peppers. I have not used them but its worth a shot.

Also some plants make airy buds

If you have the means to give very high doses of co2, you might look into trying to kill of the mites with it.

If I ever get mites late in flower my plan is to go get a tank and try to kill them off that way.

HeartlandHank said:

They use co2 in the process of photosynthesis. No?

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Ive always believed that plants continue to pull nutrients, water and CO2 throughout the growth cycles. There is a lot of development in the dark and it takes all the elements to produce that growth. Even if it theoretically sounds wrong, I made it available for the plants consumption, no matter how minute. It also shows some gains during that period, but I eliminated it to see if there would be a change. The only change I saw was the clusters did get a bit smaller. I may just put it back on, but limit the amount to just an hour, for it is a sealed closet and it's not that cheap.

yeah..... the heavy doses I gave it didn't kill them, there seems to be less of them seen, but even the new growth has signs.

Maybe if I bag the plant and crack the valve.

They use CO2, water and Light to photosynthisize.(spelling). No light it doesn't use it. Kill those mites. Put a no pest strip in the closet if its not in your bedroom.

112286187 said:

Ive always believed that plants continue to pull nutrients, water and CO2 throughout the growth cycles. There is a lot of development in the dark and it takes all the elements to produce that growth. Even if it theoretically sounds wrong, I made it available for the plants consumption, no matter how minute. It also shows some gains during that period, but I eliminated it to see if there would be a change. The only change I saw was the clusters did get a bit smaller. I may just put it back on, but limit the amount to just an hour, for it is a sealed closet and it's not that cheap.

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Even in a sealed environment... After opening the door, sitting the plant in there, then shutting it... you let more co2 into the closet than the plant will use in 12 hours of darkness. My guess is many many times more than the plant will use. That's if it is even using any co2 at all.

The $ and time would be much better spent going at the mites. It looks like the plant is having some photoperiod confusion. It might be a good while before the flowers are ripe. If the mites are not addressed you probably will not have anything to harvest.

As to the mites... The outdoor environment is much less friendly to mites than the indoor. When you bring them inside for darkness the mites are probably getting a stronger hold on your plant, 12 hours at a time, daily.

Maybe you could instead just sit a black trash can over your plants, outside, for about 4 hours in the evening or morning. That way the plant gets the full 12 hours of darkness but the mites are not being given the chance to flurish every night for 12 hours.

The plant probably doesn't like living in two different worlds either. Causing it stress and making it more vulnerable to the mites. Give it a little stability and leave it outside. Mites are not a big deal on a healthy plant outdoors.

It looks like the flower development is not too far along. Pics are hard to make out. If this is the case, pressure washing is very effective against mites. It would be good to do it soon before the flowers are too developed to be able to do that.
This is assuming it is not too late already.

Then there is the rootbound issue, idk what to tell you about that. sucks.

As always, everything here is just my opinion. If you got other ideas, go with it.

Good luck man. Hope you pull a nice crop. If you nursed this thing back to health and pulled a crop... you gotta take at least one puff. haha.

HeartlandHank said:

As to the mites... The outdoor environment is much less friendly to mites than the indoor. When you bring them inside for darkness the mites are probably getting a stronger hold on your plant, 12 hours at a time, daily.

Maybe you could instead just sit a black trash can over your plants, outside, for about 4 hours in the evening or morning. That way the plant gets the full 12 hours of darkness but the mites are not being given the chance to flurish every night for 12 hours.

The plant probably doesn't like living in two different worlds either. Causing it stress and making it more vulnerable to the mites. Give it a little stability and leave it outside. Mites are not a big deal on a healthy plant outdoors.

It looks like the flower development is not too far along. Pics are hard to make out. If this is the case, pressure washing is very effective against mites. It would be good to do it soon before the flowers are too developed to be able to do that.
This is assuming it is not too late already.

Then there is the rootbound issue, idk what to tell you about that. sucks.

As always, everything here is just my opinion. If you got other ideas, go with it.

Good luck man. Hope you pull a nice crop. If you nursed this thing back to health and pulled a crop... you gotta take at least one puff. haha.

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This is great advice regarding the change in enviroments........I will figure out a way to leave the plant outside all the time and change it's photo period outside.
I stopped today and bought some Mighty Wash. It will get the spray tonight when it cools down.
I got thinking about the flower cycle and it may very well be young yet, like you said.


These are just the thoughts I need. Thanks for sharing.

112286187 said:

Ive always believed that plants continue to pull nutrients, water and CO2 throughout the growth cycles. There is a lot of development in the dark and it takes all the elements to produce that growth. Even if it theoretically sounds wrong, I made it available for the plants consumption, no matter how minute. It also shows some gains during that period, but I eliminated it to see if there would be a change. The only change I saw was the clusters did get a bit smaller. I may just put it back on, but limit the amount to just an hour, for it is a sealed closet and it's not that cheap.

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Cannabis is a C3 plant. Meaning it does NOT use CO2 during the dark phase. No photosynthesis, no need for CO2 (except for killing mites). It does use O2 during the night tho. Yes Oxygen (crazy I know). If it was a C4 plant like corn it would suck up CO2 during the night only to store it for use during the day.

RIPLouDogg said:

Cannabis is a C3 plant. Meaning it does NOT use CO2 during the dark phase. No photosynthesis, no need for CO2 (except for killing mites). It does use O2 during the night tho. Yes Oxygen (crazy I know). If it was a C4 plant like corn it would suck up CO2 during the night only to store it for use during the day.

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Good call on that. I will look further into this for future knowledge on these designations.