New to LED, all help appreciated.

tman42

tman42

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Budzbuddha said:
Shaving pennies from an unknown brand comes with risk .... many have pulled the trigger on mainland China boards with various feedback on them .... but there is a big cloud over if the leds purchased are exactly what they appear to be. Many have stated lower bin and blatant substitution.


HLG gives you what you pay for.
Look at Atreum Lighting also ......
Strips is another option .
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Ya that is the reason I was probably sticking with the true HLG as you get exactly what you are supposed to get. Thanks for the feedback!
 
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jnos45

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I know nothing about these LEDs. The pamphlet that came with the light says it is equal to a 2000w light. Its called " Vander 2000w LED. This was bought off Ebay, I also got a Vander 3000w. The problem with buying these off Ebay is you don't get enough info and the people selling the lights know nothing more than to sell them. But the light itself runs off 50w. Must have a step-up in. I haven't taken it apart yet-but I will sooner or later.
 
delstele

delstele

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jnos45 said:
I know nothing about these LEDs. The pamphlet that came with the light says it is equal to a 2000w light. Its called " Vander 2000w LED. This was bought off Ebay, I also got a Vander 3000w. The problem with buying these off Ebay is you don't get enough info and the people selling the lights know nothing more than to sell them. But the light itself runs off 50w. Must have a step-up in. I haven't taken it apart yet-but I will sooner or later.
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Those lights are prolly running if your lucky 100w..
 
WeedSexWeightsShakes

WeedSexWeightsShakes

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tman42 said:
Ya that is the reason I was probably sticking with the true HLG as you get exactly what you are supposed to get. Thanks for the feedback!
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I have bought 3 260 kits and 1 320 kit from hlg and have been very happy with them. Also their customer service is great in my experience. My most recent order I went with alibaba for ease of install. Also it was very good pricing for the fotop lm561c 800 boards. Will be a lot less work for me using 1ft by 3ft boards vs the 288s. If you got time, money and DIY skills then just grab a bunch of boards from hlg and make your own fixtures. Easier said then done, at least for me cause I’m not very handy lol.
 
TEKNIK

TEKNIK

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Guys the less you support your local innovative LED companies and the more you support China copies means something will give. China will always sell you something inferior that just how it works. You guys may not know the difference as you have no real way of testing them. The more you support half arsed companies in China the worse technology is for everyone. Keep your money local when possible, you will often find that it doesn't add up to buy from China anyway.
 
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1212ham

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jnos45 said:
The light works fine. I just don't know about the hanging height for these lights. I've moved them up to about 40 inches to see how that works.
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jnos45 said:
Hey I too switched from 1000w hid to 2000w led. Does anyone know the hanging height for these lights? I tried going by the recommended height with the light but I'm having problems. Plants look wilty but the roots look good. My hydro setup hasn't changed except for the lights. I've been growing for years but always HID. Any info would be of help.
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40" is way to high, blurples are run at about 18".

Hmm, The light works fine... but you are having problems... the only thing that changed is the light....

They say it only consumes 108w, but list the actual power as 200w. :roll:
The power consumption spec is 1 amp @ 120 volts AC.
1A x 120V x .9 power factor = 108. It's a 108w light.
 
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Sir420

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Sir420 here live & in full effect ✊.. I have been doing deep digging just like the rest of the LED community & have came to the conclusion based off of the data I collected, that Vertical SoG with the latest LED gear is the most efficient (more grams > less wattage)
Growing method for perpetualgrowers looking to maximize efficiency & time instead of quality & quantity! Most clearance for indoor growing is 8-10 ft which can allow 3-5 rows of canopy vertically and the key to me saying using the "latest LED" is because you can dim them to lower wattage while maintaining same ppfd evenly acrosscanopy.. while thinking of my perfect DiY vertical SoG rack system my focus was efficiency over budget over quality over quantity .. because efficiency is those things all in one sort of.. if anyone can correct me LM301b is still the most efficient led strip on the market today in stock lol & how come I don't see any vertical rack journals if it's suppose to be the most efficient way???
Would loveee feedback & constructive criticism I am looking to build a 5x10 system and my ceiling height is 9 feet, how many LED strips would I need to buy along with matching drivers?? Remember pls REMEMBER I want to keep them less than 10 inchs from canopy to minimize wattage &maximize ppfd efficiency so I understand it will be a little more costly... I think I could do 3 stacks high 5x10x9.. 2-3 plants per sqft (separate mother tent to get clones from) anywhere from 6 to 10" away from canopy.. I can't estimate the wattage but I do know whatever I use I can expect a gpw of at least 1.5 due to distance from canopy and "latest LED" tech along with perfect environment & feeding conditions.. how many watts would I need if I am certain to pull on a bad day 1.5 gpw & I'm trying to achieve at least 4-5lb/month?? Plz tag any knowledgeable ppl who would be happy to chat and discuss HOW MUCH WATTAGEDOES MY SPACE NEED TO PULL 4-5LB IN A 3 RACK (MAYBE 4) VERTICAL SOG RACK SYSTEM COCO 5x10x9 ???
 
TEKNIK

TEKNIK

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Efficient chips are one thing, getting the efficiency to the plants is another, the more chips the better regardless of efficiency, this allows you to close the gap further and the space between the light and the plants is what makes leds work better. Big issue with this is you need to adjust them constantly to stop the plants touching the LED's.
 
Sir420

Sir420

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@TEKNIK if you don't mind me asking you..
If you were building a 5x5 and your trying to get PPF between 800-900 and no more than 10" away from canopy, how many strips would you buy?? What driver would you use?
 
Sir420

Sir420

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I would like to stay at 2000 to light up maybe 2 or 3 5x5 areas... Maybe more maybe less my goal is more so efficiency over budget @TEKNIK
 
TEKNIK

TEKNIK

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I would suggest to run 52 Pcs of the cree strips from Cutter spaced 3 inches apart and 2 HLG320-48 drivers per 5x5. It should get pretty close to budget and spread would be even. Alot of work putting it all together but it wouldn't be too bad. The strips would not require heatsink. You could drop it down to 5 inches and still keep an even spread. The cree strips Cutter have are a bargain and they are selling alot for purposes like yours. I would suggest a straight up 3500K Cri 80 for all of them. If the efficiency is the goal then you could pay about 3x more to get it with Nichia. I don't think it's needed but if that's your goal you would have probably the most efficient light you can build without getting too complicated.
 
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Airwalker16

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TEKNIK said:
I would suggest to run 52 Pcs of the cree strips from Cutter spaced 3 inches apart and 2 HLG320-48 drivers per 5x5. It should get pretty close to budget and spread would be even. Alot of work putting it all together but it wouldn't be too bad. The strips would not require heatsink. You could drop it down to 5 inches and still keep an even spread. The cree strips Cutter have are a bargain and they are selling alot for purposes like yours. I would suggest a straight up 3500K Cri 80 for all of them. If the efficiency is the goal then you could pay about 3x more to get it with Nichia. I don't think it's needed but if that's your goal you would have probably the most efficient light you can build without getting too complicated.
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Yo Tek, do you got a link to these ones?
 
TEKNIK

TEKNIK

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Does anyone know how to utilise Co2 in these forums correctly, I made a bit of a fuck up when I did some calculations and accidentally doubled the par for a guy I am building a light for. He is going to have way too much light. Instead of wasting the light as it's a 1200W led light with nearly 6000 nichia chips I was thinking to tell him to run Co2.
I will just swap the drivers out instead to be on the safe side.
 
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