New Setup LED Reccomendations

Trippyness

Trippyness

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Greetings mates.

In the mist of moving to a permanent home.

I plan on building a canopy space of 10' x 10' and likely a 15' x 15' Room.
Very interested in the HLG 550 QB light at about 1400CAD, may even be able to build cheaper myself or the LM561C strips and wire myself?

Looking for recommendations for LED for that space for optimal PPFD ( around 900)
Looking for best cost, I am in Canada so lets not forget the USD to CAD exchange.
Ive run some numbers and in the long run LED still saves a considerable amount of money compared to DE + Air Conditioning.

I am fine DIYing myself, but if there is a fixture I could buy to cover 4 5 x 5 canopy's that would be good as well.

My last question is how does light degradation affect LED overtime? Even DE degrades 10% year over year.
Any help would be great. Will be a RDWC or Coir.

Trippy.
 
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GBAUTO

GBAUTO

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Light strips are probably the best and most cost-effective solution at the moment. Here is an excellent source for info and guides on what you need. Have fun.
 
mycomaster

mycomaster

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H.L.G. has a 550 diy kit, it's the hlg600. The driver is slightyly more powerful than the 550, and it's cheaper. Ledgrowlightsdepot.com
 
Trippyness

Trippyness

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mycomaster said:
H.L.G. has a 550 diy kit, it's the hlg600. The driver is slightyly more powerful than the 550, and it's cheaper. Ledgrowlightsdepot.com
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Have been interested in the HLG 550 still a descent price even with canadian conversions.
My question really is how much does light degrade with these diodes year over year.
Im looking at a 10 year ROI vs DE HPS.
 
Aolelon

Aolelon

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Trippyness said:
Have been interested in the HLG 550 still a descent price even with canadian conversions.
My question really is how much does light degrade with these diodes year over year.
Im looking at a 10 year ROI vs DE HPS.
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The hlg600 is the hlg550 just cheaper and more powerful.
 
Aolelon

Aolelon

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I'm not sure, I only have 2 of the qb288s and havent used a gavita. I'm sure someone else can chime in. GrandMaster level is doing side by side grows, I'm not sure which hps he is using but so far the hlg looks promising. He pulled more GPW than the GPS side, but the led had 2% lower thc content. But the grow was riddled with problems from the start so.
 
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Viceman666

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With your space id look into strips.. for the amount you will need you will save quite a lot by making a big order.. the number you need is hard to tell as it will depend how hard you run them.. more you have higher will be the initial cost but if you are looking at a 10 year investment I think spending for a bit more strips now and running them at lower current will pay off over long time..

Keep in mind you will need to adapt going from hps to LED its not exactly the same thing.. but yeah look at LED gardener he has a nice post about strips and how much you need with drivers and rest.. what ive found harder in my area in Canada is finding the alu channel to put the strips on but you may have a place in your area.. hlg550 or 600 will be good for a 4x4 but will come up short in a 5x5 IMO if youre trying to maximize your space.. my guess is you probably want to aim for 750w for each 5x5 of strips but once again depends how hard you run them..
 
Trippyness

Trippyness

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Viceman666 said:
With your space id look into strips.. for the amount you will need you will save quite a lot by making a big order.. the number you need is hard to tell as it will depend how hard you run them.. more you have higher will be the initial cost but if you are looking at a 10 year investment I think spending for a bit more strips now and running them at lower current will pay off over long time..

Keep in mind you will need to adapt going from hps to LED its not exactly the same thing.. but yeah look at LED gardener he has a nice post about strips and how much you need with drivers and rest.. what ive found harder in my area in Canada is finding the alu channel to put the strips on but you may have a place in your area.. hlg550 or 600 will be good for a 4x4 but will come up short in a 5x5 IMO if youre trying to maximize your space.. my guess is you probably want to aim for 750w for each 5x5 of strips but once again depends how hard you run them..
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I run COBs at home and Gavitas at the warehouse. Im aware of the quirks. I have to icnrease Mag in Coir under LED significantly. My main purpose in to reduce wattage from outtake fans like I have to use with Gavitas ( ive never actuially used AC other than in the warehouse ).
Im just aiming for the same yield with lower wattage at 900+PPFD over a 5 x 5 Canopy area.
Ill checkout more of LED Gardeners stuff. Not new to LED though, just looking into a 10 year investment and if its worth it to build Samsung QB or Strips vs the low cost of DE HPS these days. Thanks for the comments
 
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1212ham

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Trippyness said:
My question really is how much does light degrade with these diodes year over year.
Im looking at a 10 year ROI vs DE HPS.
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I believe the yearly degradation is very low. The datasheet says >50,000 hours, with the remark "L70B50".
A little reading needed on L70B50.
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/business-images/led/file/product/products/201704/Data_Sheet_F_Series_G3_Rev.1.0.pdf

Considering the power savings for the lights and air conditioning, LED is much cheaper. There's a reason corporations are replacing existing lighting with led. (:
 
Aolelon

Aolelon

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L defines the percentage of lumen comparing with the initial lumens. B value means the failure data at the L data. So LB value indicate the real lifetime at a certain hours.

Like L90B10 at 50,000 hours means the LED lamp keeping 90% lumen from initial lumen and only 10% light failed to reach 90% lumen. You can get clearly L70B50 means only 50% lamp survive at 70% lumen remaining at 50,000 hours. So L70B50 light decay is faster than L90B10.
 
ANC

ANC

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I'd wait for the new HLG "SAMSUNG" boards if they are not for sale already.
 
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