New leaves growing out swirly and deformed

I'm growing outdoors in 10 gallon pots using FFOF. So far they haven't needed much in the way of nutes, I give them Grow Big using 1/2 teaspoon per gallon maybe once a week.

It's mostly on one plant. It looks like if you pour cream into the top of your coffee after stirring the coffee, kind of a circular-looking motion. And a few of the leaves are just twisted/deformed looking. It's not all the growing tops. No obvious bugs, aside from a few whiteflies, a few thrips but the plants are big enough that it's not really an issue.

I sthere any semi-common issue that could do this?

curling leaves is from stress. find out whats stressin ur girl not enough? water too much water? too much nutes? light durring darkness? etc

Thrips eat young new forming leaves, they eat one side of the leaf and as it grows it swirls, the damage from thrips is easy to identify in this situaton, got some pics?

I'll try and get some next day or so.There is a leaf or 2 with half gone, to be expected if they are getting munched as they grow in. I don't think I see the thrips, but the little bit of markings on the leaves correspond to what thrips are supposed to do. As I said, i do see a few whiteflies, but their damage on the leaves isn't really a concern.

I'm not seeing them any more, but a few weeks after I put them outside and they got 2 or so feet tall, I did see some tiny looking bugs hidden in the folds on the tiny leaves on new shoots...almost looked like gnats but a little different. We do get a few leafhoppers that actually eat holes in the leaves...but again, just an odd leaf once in a while. I put up some safer whitefly traps last week, they have some whiteflies and little black bugs on them. Not a major amount, but they're there

I had those little fuckers..... A little agromax does the trick

Thrips and white flies can easily kill the biggest plants. They are nasty buggers that suck the juices out and leave your leaves twisted, yellow and eventually dead. They also can lay up to 100 eggs a day, so it is actually a big problem that can get out of hand very quickly. I dealt with white flies once and they killed a 5' plant. Use insecticidal soap and re spray every couple of days (it's a great organic product so you don't have to worry about nasty chemicals in your smoke and it only costs $6 at Home Depot). You can also spray the leaves with a blast of water which can help to dislodge some of the critters. The worst part about thrips is that they love to live, shit, and eat in the buds...so start getting rid of them quickly! Good luck and hope your lady makes it out ok

Not that you got thrips, obviously you got some types of bugs!lol! Thrips is like hunting a tiger in the jungle, you may see where its been but you may never actually see it, put on your hunting gear for thrips, godam cunning little buggers, even with hundreds on a plant they will still be able to avoid you seeing them, you may spend hours looking and never see one. I hunt them good and for years have fought them, on my pepper flowers they hide deep in and never come out, trick is to gently breath on the flower, the thrip will come out of hiding to investigate the humidity and warmth and then you got him. Weed plants are even harder to find thrips.

All flies hate tin foil and get confused, hang it in the bright places and they will fly off from the plants. Cover the soil by one of the many ways to kill life cycles of soil larvae from thrips and other such soil larvae flies, some dont use the soil and the larvae hatch on the leaves, thips need the soil or they die.

Benificial nute, bacteria and fungi seem to offer the plant a lot of resiliance to pests and employing an army of different predator bugs will control them quick too. I use 2 different predator mites, one for thrips and one for gnats and mites although they will attack anything small. All these methods combined wipes my thrips, whitefly and knats out within a few weeks and cooler temps slow their reproductive life cycle, i will not use pesticides or insecticides ever again and hate them and dont trust them for weed plants.

My jalapeno plants can outgrow the damage from thrips normally and they live all year round with them, i do not have to do anything with these plants but weed plants take a real big hit from bugs.

A small funny story about my peppers, i have the plants near an open window in a small grow at my girlfriends, i did use the predatory mites but other bugs came in from outside and started eating them, these other bugs didn't eat my peppers and also killed the pests but just goes to show how mother nature has its ways, i got mites to kill mites and ended up producing a whole food chain of bugs as bigger bugs and moths started to come in to eat the bugs that were snacking on my predatory bugs. At night with the lights on it was like a bug zoo, must have been at least 10 different species and different kinds of bugs all over the plant and walls where the light was, i dont mind though as i suppose it is no different to outdoors and am not in the habbit of killing any form of life. Peace

I sprayed under the leaves this morning (it's overcast) with Don't Bug Me. Quite a few tiny whiteflies underneath the leaves. I did spray with it a week ago too. maybe I'll keep spraying once a week, and alternate Don't Bug Me with Spinosad., just to keep anything nasty from getting out of hand. And I know I'll be using the Spinosad regularly once flowering starts to keep the budworms in check, had a big problem last year with them, and the Spinosad worked like a charm....didn't lose any bud

Hope it works dude. Another trick outdoors is to plant things that repulse certain pests, herbs and some other plants repel flies and insects. On top of this you can plant things that would attract some of the more viscious pests over marijuana plants. Find what budworms love the most, their favourite food and plant that next to the marijuana plants, now most will hopefully leave your weed plants alone choosing their favourite food over some bud. Simply use insecticide on these plants to control the population. It is what we do in my garden outdoors if we have lots of veg crops going, we plant herbs and bright flowers around them and most of the insects are attracted to these and leave our peas and tomatos alone, well almost but damage is minimal. Peace