new grows!!
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oxyhydro
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yea and im usin no nutes at the moment and still look verry good, and there only a month and a week old and big as shitThey look healthy.
Very innovative, using that 2 litre.
simpsonsampson420
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not too bad bro... they are a little stretched... but look healthy.. are you flowering or vegging?? if you are vegging you may want to consider either flipping to flower and/or doing some LST training to the taller ones... here is why...
i say flip to flower because they are only going to stretch more... they will out grow the lights quickly from here on out... since they stretch more for flowering anyways the bigger you let them get the taller their final height will be... if they are too tall, besides being weaker yielders, they themselves will be too weak to support their own weight...
if you are still vegging and have the desire to, you may consider doing some LST work.. get those branches tied down and secured to help height... and drop the lights closer... have them as close as you possibly can get them... that will help limit the stretch some...
you will want to start nutes when you switch to flower... start out weak and build from there... but that isnt important until you decide to flip them anyways...
here is what i personally would do... i would start them on 12/12 now.. give them 24 hours straight dark going into 12/12.. this will help speed flowering up... starting the first day of 12/12 i would begin tieing the taller plants down and securing the tops in place.. basically and top there is tie a piece of string to, bend over until you feel it is tight (dont over do it though.. if you get it to tight you risk breaking the top off.. this will be a gradual process so just dont over tighten..) and then tie the string..
this can be done by inserting eye hooks into the wall all around the plants.. or you can use the pots... basically however you want to secure them in place...
every couple days tighten it more and more.. they can bend a lot so dont worry about how far down you can pull them.. as long as the stem is ok you are ok...
stop tightening when they stop stretching...
you dont have to do every branch... even if its just the main top.. i would start under the second or third node..
dont do the smaller one.. just the larger ones..
you may lose a huge main cola.. but you'll be able to drop the lights down more and you will have "opened up" the plants... this means more of the girls can get more light.. this means a larger over all yield potential...
i say flip to flower because they are only going to stretch more... they will out grow the lights quickly from here on out... since they stretch more for flowering anyways the bigger you let them get the taller their final height will be... if they are too tall, besides being weaker yielders, they themselves will be too weak to support their own weight...
if you are still vegging and have the desire to, you may consider doing some LST work.. get those branches tied down and secured to help height... and drop the lights closer... have them as close as you possibly can get them... that will help limit the stretch some...
you will want to start nutes when you switch to flower... start out weak and build from there... but that isnt important until you decide to flip them anyways...
here is what i personally would do... i would start them on 12/12 now.. give them 24 hours straight dark going into 12/12.. this will help speed flowering up... starting the first day of 12/12 i would begin tieing the taller plants down and securing the tops in place.. basically and top there is tie a piece of string to, bend over until you feel it is tight (dont over do it though.. if you get it to tight you risk breaking the top off.. this will be a gradual process so just dont over tighten..) and then tie the string..
this can be done by inserting eye hooks into the wall all around the plants.. or you can use the pots... basically however you want to secure them in place...
every couple days tighten it more and more.. they can bend a lot so dont worry about how far down you can pull them.. as long as the stem is ok you are ok...
stop tightening when they stop stretching...
you dont have to do every branch... even if its just the main top.. i would start under the second or third node..
dont do the smaller one.. just the larger ones..
you may lose a huge main cola.. but you'll be able to drop the lights down more and you will have "opened up" the plants... this means more of the girls can get more light.. this means a larger over all yield potential...
oxyhydro
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yea im waiting to get more soil and bigger pots befor i switch to 12/12 and lsd them to the bigger pots witch will be soon then a week after i get them in the new pots and lst then its goin 12/12
and i know how to lst but thanks for sayin that anyways
oxyhydro
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hey watsup, yea i kinda laid low and took a break for a couple months but i doin it again, but hopfully i can make these alot better then my other ones=/ but yea i kinda fucked up my last ones to much and still got pretty good buds sum how
stumps
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Mine are a month. I like yous better I think. Is lsd'ing a chem tretment. J/k
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oxyhydro
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how r u even gona say that mine look like shit compaired to urs so wtf
stumps
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I think I said I like yours better. If thats not what I said It's what I ment to say. Mine are going up and not bushing out. This is the first time in awhile I've used mh to veg. was thinking about adding the cfl's to the mh.
luvvin growin
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both of you got nice grows,have some rep,both of you.
oxyhydro
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yea i no u sed that, i was sayin like mine r shity compaired to urs, but yea i would use cfl's and fl's for veg deffently, but try lowering ur mh light alot closer but make sure u dont burn up ur plant
oxyhydro
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whoz do u think is better?, i think his are better
oxyhydro
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yea i just looked at ur plants even closer and saw how streched they r, my makes have more branches then urs and urs are probly twice as tall, so thats not good or at least to me, more ur light closer or get more lights and then u should me good
stumps
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every time I grow this stuff it reaches for the sky. for the most part the light has been 12" or less off the plants. 8" is about as close as I can get and that can get a little to warm. here is another grow with the same seeds. At the end. but these vegged under cfl's.
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simpsonsampson420
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oxy - sounds like you have a solid plan.. i would try to get your soil and pots asap and get them transplanted and start to LST... the sooner the better...
Fenni - good seeing you bro.. it has been a while... how are things??
stump - LST stands for low stress training.. it isnt chemical.. it involves tieing branches down and securing them to something.. which holds them in place.. http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.marijuanau.com/images/how_to_lst_467.jpeg&imgrefurl=http://www.marijuanau.com/gallery/how_to_lst&h=600&w=800&sz=89&tbnid=U45i2mXwSMIdZM:&tbnh=107&tbnw=143&prev=/images?q=lst+growing&hl=en&usg=__vcYZhy0zAX4Jpbf5G5JVXJ2vDbg=&ei=i25QS-64KY20tgf-wOmxCQ&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=6&ct=image&ved=0CCoQ9QEwBQ on this link click the pic that says "how to LST".. it has a good illustration on what to do... or an example of what you can do..
Fenni - good seeing you bro.. it has been a while... how are things??
stump - LST stands for low stress training.. it isnt chemical.. it involves tieing branches down and securing them to something.. which holds them in place.. http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.marijuanau.com/images/how_to_lst_467.jpeg&imgrefurl=http://www.marijuanau.com/gallery/how_to_lst&h=600&w=800&sz=89&tbnid=U45i2mXwSMIdZM:&tbnh=107&tbnw=143&prev=/images?q=lst+growing&hl=en&usg=__vcYZhy0zAX4Jpbf5G5JVXJ2vDbg=&ei=i25QS-64KY20tgf-wOmxCQ&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=6&ct=image&ved=0CCoQ9QEwBQ on this link click the pic that says "how to LST".. it has a good illustration on what to do... or an example of what you can do..
simpsonsampson420
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also guys.. if you want to bush your plants out and help keep them shorter you should super crop them throughout veg... https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/288113-step-step-how-super-crop.html
stumps
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First off. I admit my humor sucks. you'll notice I didn't write lst. I wrote lsd'ing. there was a typo at one time that said lsd not lst. I swear I saw it. But now stay with me on this. In my youth peeps would use lsd25 "liquid" in a balloon, blow the balloon up then pop it over sugar cubes. not the best way to dose acid but it was done that way at one time. Hence the humor in "lsd'ing is that a chem treatment." But thanks for the link to supper cropping. I might try that.