New Grower

okay i have 6 bagseed seedlings goin on pretty good in jiffy pots at the moment there outside waiting for me to get payed to make a veg cfl fixture for them i have a grow room set up in a cupboard in a caravan in my back yard whish is 1.4 m high .6m width .4m in depth its covered with panda film and has 2 normal cupbooard vents with 2 computer fans and a little desk fan in there for veg im gunna have 2 100w cfls and flowering ill have 400w hps im using a dwc bucket system havnt got any nutrients or a medium yet either

your welcome to ask questions

why only the cfl's for veg???? and not the hps the whole way through??

im trying to save money dont really want a high electricity bill

Uhh why are they outside? how hot is it there mate.
Make sure they dont dry up

Zaccyy said:

im trying to save money dont really want a high electricity bill

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dude that 400 will raise ur bill maybe 10-25 dollars if its on 24 hours a day! MAYBE! but 30 bucks in 3 months for rewards the plenty! i dunno ,
I jus think 400 all the way but im greedy! Good Luck

mr.smileyface said:

Uhh why are they outside? how hot is it there mate.
Make sure they dont dry up

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uuuhhhhh yeah. misse that! what r they doing outside??? what do u do at nite? u said u have no lites yet? sounds suspect? more details please... more deatiled the prob... more detailed the answ!

25bucks aye?
i fort i wouldhave been way more hmm i might just do that but i dont know
i live in Australia our lighting bills may be different? cuz ive had a few mates say its
a bit pricey to have hps goin

Naw, man you're right for using (as long as they're daylight) cfls for veg and hps for flower.
For 1 you do save on electricity
For 2 the cfl will keep it more compact then hps. Hps in veg makes for a streched out plant, more so than the daylight 6500k cfl.
For 3 it will give it a dramatic boost when going into flower than having the hps the whole time.
you will prolly need a bigger fan for the heat of the 400 in your box, they get really hot in small spaces. Hopefully not though.
Good luck
-hardroc

hardroc said:

Naw, man you're right for using (as long as they're daylight) cfls for veg and hps for flower.
For 1 you do save on electricity
For 2 the cfl will keep it more compact then hps. Hps in veg makes for a streched out plant, more so than the daylight 6500k cfl.
For 3 it will give it a dramatic boost when going into flower than having the hps the whole time.
you will prolly need a bigger fan for the heat of the 400 in your box, they get really hot in small spaces. Hopefully not though.
Good luck
-hardroc

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yeah sure.... but thats why u supper crop! LST, FIM, or jus Top the sob! HPS will stretch if u dont suppercrop! BTW i think u wanna lil stretch when u LST? but HPS will provide a FULLER spectrum of light!

I jus always assume everyone is trying to grow the best, most dense, most compact, potent, bomb ass smoke? if hes got the HPS he should use it! Why get a sudden boost when u can have stong consistant growth??? i dunno? yeah it will stay more compact wit CFL's (lol) real compact! 2in growth in 4 weeks??? or HPS 6in growth in 4 weeks??? and that with being fim'ed???? not tryng to offend, or discredit ur advise, as i am sure u have found sucess in "ur way".... however dont b so quit to discount other methods as they may have found similar or perhapb more success than u? IN MY HUMBLE OPINION! but WTF do i know, its jus my opinion.
A better idea may be to get a 400 mh light to accompany the hps and use both the whole way through!!! (sorry to hate on the cfl's jus nevr been a fan, know they work jus anit me)


GOOD LUCK and continued success

I use 3 100w replacement cfls with 2 60 watt replacement cfls on a home made fixture, and 2 75 watt replacement flouro tube lights for side lighting and my plants grow half an inch a day :/

well i shall work with the hps for now until i get the cfl's up and going

Tyler Durden 77 said:

yeah sure.... but thats why u supper crop! LST, FIM, or jus Top the sob! HPS will stretch if u dont suppercrop! BTW i think u wanna lil stretch when u LST? but HPS will provide a FULLER spectrum of light!

I jus always assume everyone is trying to grow the best, most dense, most compact, potent, bomb ass smoke? if hes got the HPS he should use it! Why get a sudden boost when u can have stong consistant growth??? i dunno? yeah it will stay more compact wit CFL's (lol) real compact! 2in growth in 4 weeks??? or HPS 6in growth in 4 weeks??? and that with being fim'ed???? not tryng to offend, or discredit ur advise, as i am sure u have found sucess in "ur way".... however dont b so quit to discount other methods as they may have found similar or perhapb more success than u? IN MY HUMBLE OPINION! but WTF do i know, its jus my opinion.
A better idea may be to get a 400 mh light to accompany the hps and use both the whole way through!!! (sorry to hate on the cfl's jus nevr been a fan, know they work jus anit me)


GOOD LUCK and continued success

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Hey no worries dude, if that works for you its great, but I've done a side by side comparison and the Cfl's make better spacing for the bud sites and keep it more tight and compact structure. Mh is really the way to go, but I don't 'wanna pay that much for the electric bill, when I can get almost the same growth with cfls. So I wasn't putting anyones way down, just stating facts.................also hps doesn't give fuller spectum of light, it pretty much only uses orange/red spectum, you get no blue spectum, which is what plants thrive on for vegitative state.

Forever Green said:

I use 3 100w replacement cfls with 2 60 watt replacement cfls on a home made fixture, and 2 75 watt replacement flouro tube lights for side lighting and my plants grow half an inch a day :/

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yeah no doubt. Sorry kinda being an ass, jus know that the HPS is better(in my mind) but im sure u can get good grows out of CFL's

hardroc said:

Hey no worries dude, if that works for you its great, but I've done a side by side comparison and the Cfl's make better spacing for the bud sites and keep it more tight and compact structure. Mh is really the way to go, but I don't 'wanna pay that much for the electric bill, when I can get almost the same growth with cfls. So I wasn't putting anyones way down, just stating facts.................also hps doesn't give fuller spectum of light, it pretty much only uses orange/red spectum, you get no blue spectum, which is what plants thrive on for vegitative state.

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fasho.............

yehh i only want the cfls for veg

okay just put me 400w hps in me little grow room lol only just fitted in
as i said above its 1.4m high .6m long and .4m in width
and some a update of the little buggers chillen outside 1 week old
in jiffy pots still, some roots are coming though the bottom

I'm doing almost the same grow with the same dimensions, but i'm in a closet. I like those vents you have on the top and bottom. I assume your going to place fans in them for in-line at the bottom and exhaust at the top. I'm using panda plastic as well, do you plan on placing reflect material inside?

I'll definitely be following

holy shit i gave it a run in there with my plants for about 20mins and i came back for a check it was like a bloody
oven in there i will definitly not be putting my plants in there again untill i get a good exhaust system goin
my plants were all bent over and wilted the jiffy pots were almost fully dryed out so i gave em a water and put em back
outside i think i might have only just saved them lets hope for the best

okay today i went and got me self some perlite and vermiculite i think its called
with some ionic grow and bloom nutrients

ill update with pics every australian monday

Cheers