New Grower - 1st Indoor Grow Questions

Coloradogrower710

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Oh, and one more question - I got a clip-on fan to get some air on my plants, but the poles on my tent are too thin to clip the fan to. I've temporarily got a small fan clipped to a flower pot in the tent, but am looking for a better solution. I'd love to be able to find a small, clip-on oscillating fan but wasn't having much luck finding one still being sold on Amazon. If anyone has any suggestions for a good, preferably oscillating fan, I'd be much appreciative!
In my tent I just got a box fan and used 3 or 4 zip ties to attach it to the top of the tent it has worked for me!
 

Dreddd

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Hey man very nice grow!
do you mind taking a pic from a downward angle showing both the buds and the QBs in the same shot? im trying to convince a skeptical friend about the QBs.. :mrgreen:
 

Cali Cajun

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Hey brother, thank you! I'm having fun so far. Just opened up the tent; I'll run down and take a picture and post it in a bit.
 

GroErr

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Thanks!! Keeping my fingers crossed that I don't screw anything up here as I get closer to the end.
Looking great in there, is that 5 weeks count from the flip? They look like they'll be early finishers, ~3 weeks based on what I'm seeing.
 

Cali Cajun

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Looking great in there, is that 5 weeks count from the flip? They look like they'll be early finishers, ~3 weeks based on what I'm seeing.
Thanks GroErr! It's 5 weeks from when they started showing the first buds - I think I flipped about 10 days before that. I'm still a bit confused how to count for projected harvest - I see some people counting from when they flip, and some from when the first buds come. The seed company says on their website that they need to flower for 7 - 9 weeks so I'm on target probably for the middle of that range.
 

GroErr

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Thanks GroErr! It's 5 weeks from when they started showing the first buds - I think I flipped about 10 days before that. I'm still a bit confused how to count for projected harvest - I see some people counting from when they flip, and some from when the first buds come. The seed company says on their website that they need to flower for 7 - 9 weeks so I'm on target probably for the middle of that range.
Yeah that makes sense, they look like they're maturing well, maybe 2-3 weeks, just keep doing what you're doing. They'll finish when they finish, looks like a nice haul coming up :) I count from the flip for breeding, it's more consistent imo. Strains and phenos can start showing at different times, I'm usually running multiple strains so I count from the day I flip. I have a few strains that finish 7 weeks from the flip, those would be considered "6 week" strains if I counted from when they showed flowers :shock:
 

Cali Cajun

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Thanks GroErr!

Hey, I've got a question for you related to pruning. I'm taking a "less is more" approach for my first grow and have been trying to keep things mostly simple, but these GG4 plants are pretty viny, and the bottom 1/3 of my plants is becoming a wasteland of spindly, airy, useless little buds. I've seen folks argue pretty passionately on both sides about whether pruning is a good thing or detrimental to growth, but I can't imagine the plant putting effort into developing so much larfy growth is beneficial. I sort of wish I'd cleaned the bottom up before I flipped - I was just wondering what your thoughts were on pruning and how it effects the health of plants and final yield quality and quantity.
 

GroErr

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Thanks GroErr!

Hey, I've got a question for you related to pruning. I'm taking a "less is more" approach for my first grow and have been trying to keep things mostly simple, but these GG4 plants are pretty viny, and the bottom 1/3 of my plants is becoming a wasteland of spindly, airy, useless little buds. I've seen folks argue pretty passionately on both sides about whether pruning is a good thing or detrimental to growth, but I can't imagine the plant putting effort into developing so much larfy growth is beneficial. I sort of wish I'd cleaned the bottom up before I flipped - I was just wondering what your thoughts were on pruning and how it effects the health of plants and final yield quality and quantity.
Yeah that's a question that will generate answers on both sides, I've never seen a proper side by side showing benefit on either side. I try and leave as much on them as possible but do trim up any larfy bottom stuff around 2 weeks when they've finished stretching and I have rooted clones. After that I like to leave them alone, other than pulling off dead leaves later in the cycle to reduce any stress. It somewhat depends on your situation too, in my case if I get some popcorn on the odd plant it's all used for sift and edibles. once they're dry I pull off the nice buds/branches and strip any smaller stuff and popcorn into a 5gal bucket for processing into sift later.
 

Cali Cajun

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That's what I was planning on doing with the little stuff too - edibles or bubble. I think next time I might try doing a pruning on one or two plants as a comparison to see what difference (if any) it makes.
 

GroErr

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That's what I was planning on doing with the little stuff too - edibles or bubble. I think next time I might try doing a pruning on one or two plants as a comparison to see what difference (if any) it makes.
Yeah if you try a test use clones from the same mother as there's so much variation in how different strains and even phenos behave. I grow way more than I can possibly smoke so sometimes like this past round I'll keep the best for smoking and strip whole plants into my sift bucket. Another reason I don't concern myself with the odd plant that has popcorn.
 

Cali Cajun

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I haven't had much luck with cloning yet, but the plant I experimented / took cuttings from was the one I culled from the grow because it developed root issues from over-watering and quit growing for a while, and then began growing again very slowly. It is still alive and very healthy looking outside of the flower tent, but while generating new growth at a slow rate it has hardly grown in height over the last couple of months. I took cuttings from it and placed in water - they did fine in the water but never developed roots. After two or three weeks I planted into Coco Coir just to see if I could get them to root. They're still kinda / sorta alive, but look pretty pathetic and I'm about ready to toss them.
 

GroErr

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I haven't had much luck with cloning yet, but the plant I experimented / took cuttings from was the one I culled from the grow because it developed root issues from over-watering and quit growing for a while, and then began growing again very slowly. It is still alive and very healthy looking outside of the flower tent, but while generating new growth at a slow rate it has hardly grown in height over the last couple of months. I took cuttings from it and placed in water - they did fine in the water but never developed roots. After two or three weeks I planted into Coco Coir just to see if I could get them to root. They're still kinda / sorta alive, but look pretty pathetic and I'm about ready to toss them.
The health of the mother plant can definitely have an effect on whether or how well they root. I've noticed sickly plants can take longer or sometimes not root. Aero cloners are a good bet, I use them because I don't keep true "mothers". I clone before I flip them and the cloner gives me 100% roots. There are many methods but aero has given me the best success I can count on every time. Mind you, there are strains that root in 8 days, and some will take 20, but eventually they root. I and a few other long time growers use the Clone King (e-bay or amazon I think carry it), they have them from 12-48 slots and cheap.
 

Cali Cajun

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I probably should have bought an aero cloner. I've been doing Google searches for topics on the Rollitup forum that are interesting to me (I can't get the integrated search to behave usefully), and found an old thread on cloning in a glass that seemed to be working well for some folks so I figured I'd give it a try. One of the cuttings was actually doing very well at first, but I picked an unfortunate glass to hold the cuttings and when I checked on them one morning, they'd both fallen out of the water and suffered significant wilting. One bounced back pretty quickly, but the other has never been the same. And it's been about a month and neither rooted.

Thanks for the tip on the aero cloner and where to get one on the cheap - I'll definitely give that a try next time.

Hey, and thanks for all your help by the way! Super useful and I appreciate your helpfulness - there are some really nice folks on this forum (along with the usual smattering of a-holes).
 
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