WWShadow
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where did you get that cabinet? that is sweet?
NEW Closet Set Up for L.E.D. Stealth Grow
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umm....chris
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its a tool cabinet lowes home depot hardware store maybe
BC Bud Box
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The cabinet came out of China.
Serapis
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PROGRESS:
Plants #1 & #2 have taken off. #2 is now tallest. I've read a lot and I've learned that Bubblelicious loves to stretch in flower, so I've decided to trip the light fantastic. Starting tonight, they'll be on 12/12 finally. I'll post some pics in a few days.
SEEDLINGS:
Seedlings are doing VERY well. They are already showing 3rd true node and the nodes are one on top of the other with little to no spacing. I'm hoping they stretch a bit. The stems are about 1/8" thick now and they are getting close to wanting transplanting. I have them on Peters Plant Food 10-15-10, very weak solution.
Have a great weekend.
Plants #1 & #2 have taken off. #2 is now tallest. I've read a lot and I've learned that Bubblelicious loves to stretch in flower, so I've decided to trip the light fantastic. Starting tonight, they'll be on 12/12 finally. I'll post some pics in a few days.
SEEDLINGS:
Seedlings are doing VERY well. They are already showing 3rd true node and the nodes are one on top of the other with little to no spacing. I'm hoping they stretch a bit. The stems are about 1/8" thick now and they are getting close to wanting transplanting. I have them on Peters Plant Food 10-15-10, very weak solution.
Have a great weekend.
newworldicon
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I'm interested in LED too, can you tell me who you bought yours from please and any grow pics would be great, especially the flowering. Thanks
Serapis
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They are just now starting flowering light cycle. This entire thread is full of grow pics.
thanks for looking
Serapis
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After doing some selective pruning on my plants, I've decided to veg a bit longer. Only 2 plants have decent clone potentials, so it's too soon. I swear sometimes I feel the seedlings will catch up. I think 2 more weeks of veg. I have had to raise lights twice in last week, so they are beginning to do their thing.
PRUNING:
You'll read a lot about this subject and almost always, you'll notice there are two camps of thought on this subject. There are those of us who prune, and those that don't. When I top my plants, the two top stems form fast and get immediate light. The other two branches that were instructed to become main stems as well, have to grow out a bit and then up to catch light. Most of the time, the plant handles this quite well on it's own. Then there are times when you have to trim some leaf tips and even remove some leaf and stem entirely, so my new formed cola tip to be can breathe and see the light. I want these potential heavy bud sites to get good light and reach for the stars. If they are hiding behind big shade leaves, they won't grow out and be all the bud they can be.
I also like to have the bottoms of my plants free of debris and leaves. The under canopy of the plant needs to breathe and if you never clip off the lower stems with the old growth, the plant can't respire as well. The plants look so much better and the airy openness will not attract insects. After writing about this, I want to take pictures of the ladies with their new leaf cuts and show that selective pruning is quite different from hacking up a plant. My goals were to allow the new side shoots to get light at their tops and to clean up the bottom of the main stems, to allow air to f l o w easily around the under canopy.
Look at these pictures carefully and you'll spot trimmed shade leaves that allow the light to penetrate to the new auxins encouraged main stems from topping the plant. Some of the under brush still needs to be removed. I didn't want to remove it all at one go. I mostly took care of up to first node. Next time up, I'll take clones and finish cleaning up to node 2.
PRUNING:
You'll read a lot about this subject and almost always, you'll notice there are two camps of thought on this subject. There are those of us who prune, and those that don't. When I top my plants, the two top stems form fast and get immediate light. The other two branches that were instructed to become main stems as well, have to grow out a bit and then up to catch light. Most of the time, the plant handles this quite well on it's own. Then there are times when you have to trim some leaf tips and even remove some leaf and stem entirely, so my new formed cola tip to be can breathe and see the light. I want these potential heavy bud sites to get good light and reach for the stars. If they are hiding behind big shade leaves, they won't grow out and be all the bud they can be.
I also like to have the bottoms of my plants free of debris and leaves. The under canopy of the plant needs to breathe and if you never clip off the lower stems with the old growth, the plant can't respire as well. The plants look so much better and the airy openness will not attract insects. After writing about this, I want to take pictures of the ladies with their new leaf cuts and show that selective pruning is quite different from hacking up a plant. My goals were to allow the new side shoots to get light at their tops and to clean up the bottom of the main stems, to allow air to f l o w easily around the under canopy.
Look at these pictures carefully and you'll spot trimmed shade leaves that allow the light to penetrate to the new auxins encouraged main stems from topping the plant. Some of the under brush still needs to be removed. I didn't want to remove it all at one go. I mostly took care of up to first node. Next time up, I'll take clones and finish cleaning up to node 2.
wyteberrywidow
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Serapis i just came in this thread to see what leds can do i didnt want to say anything but since you came in another thread talking shit to me i have to say leds do not produce as much as hps.You need to do more research before you come in someones defense trying to save the day>I spoke with several growers on riu that use led lights and harvested under led lights and hps lights and they say no way leds compare to it when it comes to bud weight.So i did my research looks like you need to do yours.
Grumpy Old Dreamer
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It looks like he is actually doing great research and showing the ongoing results for the benefit of those of us that (a) are open-minded, (b) are interested, and (c) not complete f$%#wits
I am definitely an interested, openminded follower of this thread.
luckyskindaguy
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Looks like you are making more enemies Searpis. You may want to be careful with speaking in other threads before you really have any personal experience to draw from. I know you believe in LED, but this is your first grow ever correct? You don't know what LED's can really do or what HPS can do either. That said, LED's are more for small spaces, which you have, that can't or don't want to contend with heat issues that HPS present. Just my 2 cents bro since I have encountered many of the LED "haters". Show them with your grow, that's the best way to prove them wrong. Even then, they will most likely still not be believers and you should just accept that reality.
I am looking forward to see how your flowering goes. I have been looking into getting a larger unit for my grow cab so I hope you have good results!
I am looking forward to see how your flowering goes. I have been looking into getting a larger unit for my grow cab so I hope you have good results!
wyteberrywidow
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Im not here to hijack and bash like some people call it ill just say this to you and leave it at that.Leds are good for small spaces and heat issues but when it comes to bud weight,bud density hps clearly blows it out the box.It might save you extra on the bill but hps harvest you can make the back in 1 grow.
Also serapis tells me i need to do my research when there is no research that indicates that leds yield more than hps.None on the internet what so ever.
Yeah he might be showing ya guys a thing or 2 but he is not showing me anything i did not see already.
Might i add the fact still remains that leds do not yield more than hps.
luckyskindaguy
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That is not true actually. Used watt basis I have seen Irishboy beat his HPS setups with an LED grow that he did. It was a higher per watt comparison. He also stated that people that were helping him at his trim party stated that they thought it was grown with HPS when they were trimming the LED grown buds.
The perception is that "90w LED = 400w HPS", I do not follow crackhead rhetoric like that. I feel watts to watts is the best way to compare. However, when you do that, the LED fixtures are much more than the HPS. Each side has pros and cons. Most people just adopt the mentality that "If you are with us, you are against us". Even Searpis has jabbed me about using CFL's in my grow, which paints him in the "LED purist" light.
Can't we all just get along?
wyteberrywidow
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Thank you for that. I plan on getting a 90 watt led for vegging as i stated before in a previous thread but then it all came up saying the 90 watt led yields more than a 400 hps and i did not believe that.That is not true actually. Used watt basis I have seen Irishboy beat his HPS setups with an LED grow that he did. It was a higher per watt comparison. He also stated that people that were helping him at his trim party stated that they thought it was grown with HPS when they were trimming the LED grown buds.
The perception is that "90w LED = 400w HPS", I do not follow crackhead rhetoric like that. I feel watts to watts is the best way to compare. However, when you do that, the LED fixtures are much more than the HPS. Each side has pros and cons. Most people just adopt the mentality that "If you are with us, you are against us". Even Searpis has jabbed me about using CFL's in my grow, which paints him in the "LED purist" light.
Can't we all just get along?
breakneck
Calyx LED
I agree 100%.
That is not true actually. Used watt basis I have seen Irishboy beat his HPS setups with an LED grow that he did. It was a higher per watt comparison. He also stated that people that were helping him at his trim party stated that they thought it was grown with HPS when they were trimming the LED grown buds.
The perception is that "90w LED = 400w HPS", I do not follow crackhead rhetoric like that. I feel watts to watts is the best way to compare. However, when you do that, the LED fixtures are much more than the HPS. Each side has pros and cons. Most people just adopt the mentality that "If you are with us, you are against us". Even Searpis has jabbed me about using CFL's in my grow, which paints him in the "LED purist" light.
Can't we all just get along?
breakneck
Calyx LED
There is none right now. Argon is the only thing we know about that produces more lumens per watt. LED FTW.
wyteberry it sure seems like u bash on leds threads , and u might wanna research some more cause u are missing threads with very good results from leds over1g /watt from 1st time led growers
if u want links pm me i will happy lead u to them
u seem might wanna be more openminded not just hate all the time
wyteberrywidow
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Like i said i am looking into purchasing a 90 watt led.I did not say they dont have good results what i said was the equivalents 90 watt led =400 watts hps do not yield the same.As i also said i ve been doing research and all led growers i asked about it say the same.Now if you use 400 watts of led to a 400 watt hps then maybe it will have more yield but the equvalent is not the same.
You call asking for proof bashing???
I could care less about the links trust me ive seen enough and asked enough to people using all types of leds and they say the same.
Do you need me to link you to where its said at?
wyteberrywidow
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Now it starts.
You came in another thread telling me bullshit.When i was telling a guy that he cannot get a half pound from just 1-90 watt led as he claimed.So you brought me in here saying something back.I did not come in here talking about leds until you came to another thread talking shit about me..You are saying the same exact thing i said.400 watts of led compared to a 400 hps yeah i would expect it to out yield it since it cost about double the price.
Now 90 watt led will not pull the weight of a 400 watt hps the equivalent 90 watt led=400 watt hps.Thats my point so what r u talking about willis??
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