New clones, having issues

What light are they under? its better to start the new clones away from the light slowly bringing them under.

for the first 2 days they were not under any light. As seen above I have 3 cfl's at 45 watts each and 1 fluorescent grow light. They have rooted perfectly, so I believe they are fine being under lights at this time.

what are the temps at in the room?
have you checked ph levels?

Temp are usually around 78, sometimes more sometimes less. The humidity hangs around 55% for the most part. I have not done any soil pH checks

No ph check? Could be lock out.Leaves look like they need nitrogen. Just a guess.

Just about everything is wrong.
Bad soil, bad drainage, bad lighting, overwatering. You name it, it is bad.

Would you like to go indepth with your feedback. Because according to numerous threads everywhere else, my lighting should be fine. Not sure how you came up with the rest of your insight because I haven't given any specifics on anything regarding soil type, how much water they are receiving or what my drainage is

ya althor... i would like to know as well.
have you tried really really light nutes?

I have tried very light on the nutes 2 days ago. I also added some blood meal tonight, and I will be testing some soil that I pulled earlie when it is fully dry. I'm hoping between the light nutes and blood meal, my leaves get a little darker over the next day or two.

so what soil do you have them in ? and how often are you watering and spraying them? and what nutes did ya use ? ya asked for help, pics are good but that's only half of what ya need to make a diagnosis. fill in the blanks.

ya slowandsteady is right, need more info to halp better!! hopefully the nutes will help a bit, it takes time to see improvement

The soil I made from a,mixture of perlite, vermacilian or however you say it and a organic top soil. I started of with a liquid grow to help the roots take off and now I'm using just a basic plant food that I bought at lowes. It was the best I could find in my area for now. I water them slightly when the soil on top is fully dry and I mist the leaves once a day when I turn their lights off.

Top soil is for landscaping, potting soil is for plants. Your plants are absolutely dripping with water, i.e. overwatering.
Your drainage isn't what it needs to be so it holds the overwatering much longer than it should, especially considering you are misting them. You should also fill your planters much more, you are too low in your planters. Your light is bare minimum for a single plant, bare minimum. You don't get much penetration at all from CFL/flourescent so unless you spread them all over the plant, top/sides/bottom then they arent going to give the light you need.

I didn't need you to tell me all that information because for me it was obvious with a glance. This isn't my first rodeo.

What do you suggest I do? How many more lights should I add? As far as soil, I don't know what else to do. Everything else around here is terrible potting soil. I had previously tried the Scotts hyponex but that stuff is so wet in the bag already that it molded in my pots overnight without me watering them and when I went to look inside the bag, everything in there was covered with the white fuzz as well. That's why I tried making my own

kushiesweet said:

What do you suggest I do? How many more lights should I add? As far as soil, I don't know what else to do. Everything else around here is terrible potting soil. I had previously tried the Scotts hyponex but that stuff is so wet in the bag already that it molded in my pots overnight without me watering them and when I went to look inside the bag, everything in there was covered with the white fuzz as well. That's why I tried making my own

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Actually, the white fuzz isn't bad. That is the soil activating and the bacteria going to work. The bacteria breaks down nutrients, especially the cheap nutrients that arent already activated and ready for the plant to uptake. Not saying Scotts is good soil, it isn't but it is OK if it doesn't have the time released nutrients mixed in the soil.

As far as what you should do, for me that is tricky, especially since you have already started LSTing. That will make it difficult to transplant. If you take out the degree of difficulty, I would..

1. transplant into better soil, in a planter with plenty of drain holes, mixed with perlite, all the way to the top.
You want it to be as deep as possible. Deeper is better than wider. If you only fill your planter halfway, you will find yourself rootbound in no time.
Rootbound will cause such problems as stunted growth, increased stretching, small buds/yield, wilting/yellowing leaves, etc.

2. Get your cfl/flourescent lights within 3 inches of the plant. CFL/Flourescent need to be sitting right on top of the plant to penetrate down it. As it grows, you will want to add more CFLs on the sides to penetrate as well, also within 3 inches of the plant. At the rate MJ grows, you will find yourself moving the lights constantly to keep them within 3 inches but not touching. HID lighting is a much better option, but comes with it's own challenges.

3. STOP misting the plants. You only need to do that at first to help get them started and rooted.

I am not sure if the yellowing leaves is a lack of nitrogen or just from overwatering. Overwatering is certainly an issue but it is possible you have a nitrogen deficiency as well. Problem is you don't want to overdose it on nitrogen if it is entirely caused by overwatering.

If you do transplant it, whatever soil you use will have enough natural nutrients in it to last for a couple of weeks.
If you choose to not transplant and try to push through with what you have, then you need to be careful with how you water it.
Let it dry out until the planter is light before watering again, and don't mist. Keep an eye on the new growth. If new growth continues to come out light in color then add nutrients on the next watering.

Thanks for the advice. Last night I pulled my hooks off plants and let them be overnight. This morning I went to the store bought new soil, completely bare soil no nutes what so ever. I bought another bag of perlite, and I bought a bag of coconut fiber. I mixed all three with plentiful amounts and added 3 tsp. of blood meal to each container. I bought bigger containers and filled them up as far as I could. I have re-arranged my lights and plan on getting another 2 cfl's and possibly another flourescent strip tomorrow. These pots also have plenty of holes in the bottom for better drainage so hopefully all of these changes will help. Question, one of my plants seems to be doing ok, the other limpy but to be expected from the transplant. Should I keep the lights off for 24 hours to let them kinda relax or should I put them right back into their light pattern. I have had the lights off for about 3 hours now, so I still have another 3 hours to figure it out if indeed they should be put into their light pattern

Newly potted

Don't change the light pattern for sure. Light is one of the main factors and changing light patterns can be stressful if not done incrementally.

The transplant will be stress enough for now and they need a few days to recover, which they will do best under light giving them energy.
Generally it is best to do training, topping, transplanting, stressful things early so they have the full day of light to recover.

Ok thanks for the info. Bought two more 1100 lumen cfl's installed them and turned all lights back on. I now have 5 cfl's all down loan in different areas of the plants with the flourescent strip on the backside