New Ca legislation an end to the black market.

Not that i ever get a profit. I just save my life worth of money not buying nemore...Mine gets passed back to the moms,pops,aunts, uncles and cousins lol

Most growers grow not because they r broke but they cant afford how much good cannabis costs anymore.

I also think some state will be on the side of family farms eventually. Its very "progressive" in a so called "progressive" market

Digital_life said:

Colorado has pretty much zero black market now, except someone who grows and maybe sells to his neighbor or such. The price per gram is $15, 1/8 $30, 1/2 oz $100, oz $175. This is for killer dank 25%THC product. My buddy who made about 100k a month growing, didn't get a license and thought the same way. Literally he had to get another job. He has maybe three or four people who buy an oz here or there now a month. He went from selling 30-40lb a month to maybe 4-6 oz. because there so much legal weed at the dispensaries and they grow it all in the facilities that the black market is gone.

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If retail is 175$ oz I bet underground people who get 150$ oz wont be complaining at all. That still is 2400$ a unit.

70's natureboy said:

I don't see readily available quality weed coming from corporations. People that love weed will buy it from somebody that knows how to produce high quality smoke. Everybody will know a "guy" that has better weed tax free; at least until the next generation comes along that is brought up on mediocre corporate weed.

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If you dont think "they" can or will not produce high quality clean marijuana your in for a big suprise. There is too much money involved for corporations not to. Once we get pushed out of the way (indoors under lights will not be cost effective) they will slug it out and buy out each other. But you bet your ass they will produce super good smoke. Especially in the new indistry at first. In state of the art huge greenhouses and acres and acres of farmland....oh yeah. You most certainly can grow super dope on a grand scale. And bet they already got plans in the works. And once it goes legal nationwide pounds will get down to low 3 digits. Of good shit. Thats a huge profit margin for ag. I quit deluding myself back in 2008. Start saving your money is all i can tell you. Its already happening. Growers that been in the game for years are dropping out. Your going to see more and more of them drop too. We got maybe a few more years left of maling a living. But this gig i dedicated a large portion of my life to is drawing to a close. Hell of a ride. I dont know anything else either.

Its hard to imagine for us because most of us are stuck thinking like an outlaw basement boogie get down grower that cranks out fire buds. Got to think about the big picture now. People that keep thinking and telling themselves otherwise are really going to get screwed. Iam talking the growers that been relying on thos income for years now. Time to change i guess. To what...i have no clue.

CC Dobbs said:

The recently crafted legislation could be the frame work for the future but much depends on the voters in November. Sean Parker's initiative could change everything around so nobody really knows what to plan for.

After what ever happens, happens in Nov., then the Black Market will have to go much deeper underground than they now reside. At the moment BM growers can blend in and take advantage of the collective model of operations but the collective model is on the way out and seed to sale will be the new norm.

Black Market will always exist because it has run successfully for decades and it can't be stopped but the head-in-the-sand people who think that they can continue on as usual are going to be in for a serious shock.

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The black market will exist about as much as it does for the few knuckleheads in the Appalachian hill country still making moonshine.

Gquebed said:

Big corps will move in.

They wi drop the price to grab market share and force the small guys out.

Then the big corps will lobby the gov for laws that protect their market against competitors and stiffer laws against black marketeers.

Then the corps will run the prices way up...artificially fix them.

It will happen fast in this order, just like when alcohol prohibition ended.

It is a business model that has been followed for centuries.

In fact, even the blackmarket follows this business model, except where law is concerned. They use guns to enforce things...

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This^^^^ is what exactly will happen. Anything else is just being delusional or not facing the truth.

since1991 said:

Its hard to imagine for us because most of us are stuck thinking like an outlaw basement boogie get down grower that cranks out fire buds. Got to think about the big picture now. People that keep thinking and telling themselves otherwise are really going to get screwed. Iam talking the growers that been relying on thos income for years now. Time to change i guess. To what...i have no clue.

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So your saying brokers are going to be buying their product from big corporations growing medicine?

Iam saying the "brokers" will be the party store. Eventually. The only way we can keep this as long as possible is if government regulates and taxes the hell out of it that it will force big ag companys to sell it for more money than we can produce it. Which is what is happening more or less now. But eventually that will go too. Its a money thing.....big money. The kind of money that only already well off companys can invest in. Too much for us to have broken up amongst ourselves all our own anymore. Our days are numbered. Guarantee you this. As much as i dont like it and as much as you dont want to accept it....its reality. Very much similar to repealing alcohol prohibition. Dont kid yourself.

Just think if big corporations got huge state of the art organic and/or hydroponic greenhouses churning out tons and tons of the best og kush at.....say....200 a pound. Any number in the low 3 digits. That is MEGA HUGE profit. More than all the other traditional crops combined. This is what will happen. And i think alot sooner than alot of growers comfortable and used to this thing of ours are willing to realize.

since1991 said:

Just think if big corporations got huge state of the art organic and/or hydroponic greenhouses churning out tons and tons of the best og kush at.....say....200 a pound. Any number in the low 3 digits. That is MEGA HUGE profit. More than all the other traditional crops combined. This is what will happen. And i think alot sooner than alot of growers comfortable and used to this thing of ours are willing to realize.

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So are they going to sell it to the brokers? Im confused a little is all. You almost make it seem like all the medicine grown in California stays in California.

I would imagine it would follow the beer and liquor model of regional distributorship. Got me. Any brokerage being done will be wall street alongside pork bellies, corn, wheat, and soybeans.

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I would imagine it would follow the beer and liquor model of regional distributorship. Got me. Any brokerage being done will be wall street alongside pork bellies, corn, wheat, and soybeans.

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No im sorry I'm not following you at all. Im not sure you understand my questions.

I don't think the black market will end with the model I'm seeing. If they allow personal growing then all bets are off but don't think that's in the works.

The Broke ass states will tax too hard to ever eliminate the black market.. If they were smart( they aren't) they would first undercut us all and tax them @ 10% for 2 years..it would eliminate the competition @ 90$ zips ..then slowly raise the tax year by year.

Don't worry. The way things are going now you won't be able to grow any weed .

We will all be criminals more than we ever were.

TWS said:

Don't worry. The way things are going now you won't be able to grow any weed .

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Then I'm pretty sure any type of California legalization is going to be voted down.

a mongo frog said:

Then I'm pretty sure any type of California legalization is going to be voted down.

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I just hope the people are informed enough to realize. The MMRSA all ready mimics AUMA the legalization bill and all ready 90% of the state is banned and 100 Sq feet is all ready a law and or no growing at all in urban or suburban areas.
All it does is take the grey area out of what is legal and not, so it just makes it easier to hang you up now.
You can take prop 215 and SB 420 and wipe your ass with the paper it was written on.