New Business Methodology

Raphael Mechoulam

Raphael Mechoulam

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Hey, RIU! I grow weed for the majority of my income in a city where it is not legal. Currently, I grow more than I can sell so I have a growing (pun intended) backlog of weed. The way that I have accumulated my current client base is that I started selling to the people I truly know and trust. Then I told them that every new person they send my way, upon the referee's second purchase I would give the referrer the average amount of weed over the two purchases that the referee bought (up to a half ounce). So, if person A refers person B to me, and B buys a half oz. and a full oz. over 2 purchases, person A would get a full half oz. bonus (the maximum per referee). The main thing being that everyone sent to me is someone somebody really trusts and knows well. I probably have around 15, and looking for more.
The way I currently do things is someone texts me what they need, we set a time, they text me again when they get to the spot near my house, then I meet them at their car for the deal. No one knows where I actually live, as I give a neighbor's address to meet in front of. I don't any of my neighbors personally by design, we simply exchange pleasantries now and again. It is a pretty busy neighborhood, security by obcsurity. Although everything runs smoothly, I now want a greater degree of security. Here is the new system I worked out -
I purchased another phone, and non-smart pre-paid cell which is not linked to my name in any way. It is always off with the battery out. Clients text my original, personal number just to say hi, nothing else. I put in the battery in the business cell and text them back asking which strain, how much, and when. After they text back that info, I promptly take out the battery of the business cell. When they arrive, they text my personal cell with the word, "here", and I walk down to meet them per usual. My personal cell company keeps text records for 6 months, so any incriminating texts should be gone from existence by that time. And since my business cell isn't linked to me and the battery in out 99%+ of the time, it seems like a relatively secure system for a small-time dude like me. Please feel free to try to poke holes in it, and tell me what you think. If you'd like to leave pointers or your own experiences, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!
 
jimmer6577

jimmer6577

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Raphael Mechoulam said:
Hey, RIU! I grow weed for the majority of my income in a city where it is not legal. Currently, I grow more than I can sell so I have a growing (pun intended) backlog of weed. The way that I have accumulated my current client base is that I started selling to the people I truly know and trust. Then I told them that every new person they send my way, upon the referee's second purchase I would give the referrer the average amount of weed over the two purchases that the referee bought (up to a half ounce). So, if person A refers person B to me, and B buys a half oz. and a full oz. over 2 purchases, person A would get a full half oz. bonus (the maximum per referee). The main thing being that everyone sent to me is someone somebody really trusts and knows well. I probably have around 15, and looking for more.
The way I currently do things is someone texts me what they need, we set a time, they text me again when they get to the spot near my house, then I meet them at their car for the deal. No one knows where I actually live, as I give a neighbor's address to meet in front of. I don't any of my neighbors personally by design, we simply exchange pleasantries now and again. It is a pretty busy neighborhood, security by obcsurity. Although everything runs smoothly, I now want a greater degree of security. Here is the new system I worked out -
I purchased another phone, and non-smart pre-paid cell which is not linked to my name in any way. It is always off with the battery out. Clients text my original, personal number just to say hi, nothing else. I put in the battery in the business cell and text them back asking which strain, how much, and when. After they text back that info, I promptly take out the battery of the business cell. When they arrive, they text my personal cell with the word, "here", and I walk down to meet them per usual. My personal cell company keeps text records for 6 months, so any incriminating texts should be gone from existence by that time. And since my business cell isn't linked to me and the battery in out 99%+ of the time, it seems like a relatively secure system for a small-time dude like me. Please feel free to try to poke holes in it, and tell me what you think. If you'd like to leave pointers or your own experiences, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!
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I see an issue with meeting in front of a neighbors house. People will notice visitors just sitting in front of their house until you show up and sell him his weed then both go in different directions. Hmmmm...too much faith on your neighbors being stupid. At least use a strip mall or somewhere with lots of traffic, so you don't draw attention to you or your customer. Also, you can have 5 phones and switch batteries in and out, but if the person texting you is a snitch and the cops have his text showing and proving what was happening and all 5 phones can and will be used. Just giving you some real heads up, your plan has been around failing dealers for years. And the DA will use the fact that you have more than 1 phone as even more proof of dealing because they will claim that only a drug dealer needs 2 phones unless 1 is a work phone, but that is easy to prove if it's a real work phone.
 
Raphael Mechoulam

Raphael Mechoulam

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jimmer6577 said:
I see an issue with meeting in front of a neighbors house. People will notice visitors just sitting in front of their house until you show up and sell him his weed then both go in different directions. Hmmmm...too much faith on your neighbors being stupid. At least use a strip mall or somewhere with lots of traffic, so you don't draw attention to you or your customer. Also, you can have 5 phones and switch batteries in and out, but if the person texting you is a snitch and the cops have his text showing and proving what was happening and all 5 phones can and will be used. Just giving you some real heads up, your plan has been around failing dealers for years. And the DA will use the fact that you have more than 1 phone as even more proof of dealing because they will claim that only a drug dealer needs 2 phones unless 1 is a work phone, but that is easy to prove if it's a real work phone.
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Thanks so much for your feedback. I didn't explain this correctly: I walk about a block to the next street, and the spot is a driveway to an abandoned business at the end of a residential neighborhood. Many cars stop at this spot, perhaps because it is the last place to park before the highway entrance. It is a nice neighborhood, but lots of foot and car traffic. I feel that there's nothing about me or clients that stand out. I don't bring my wallet or any phones when I go out to meet a client, so if it I get set up, all they'll have is me leaving up to an ounce in a friend's car, which is all I sell at one time in that spot. The reason for this is that weed was recently decriminalized in my city, so getting caught with an ounce or less is a $50 fine and a misdemeanor. I go over this with all clients, no reason to turn me in for such a small offense. All of my clients are upstanding, mostly affluent, tax paying citizens They aren't into shady dealings (beside with me) and I think unlikely to snitch. I do have a couple clients that buy a quarter pound, for those guys I bring down the weed and put it in my trunk before they arrive, and leave the trunk closed but not locked. These guys go to my trunk, put their stuff into a backpack or such and leave the money under a blanket before they actually shut the trunk. No neighbors know me, so I doubt anyone keeps track of what I drive.
My personal cell has nothing incriminating, just "hello" and then "here" texts. I don't know what LEO could do with that, and I don't have it on me when I deal. The business cell that contains the incriminating texts isn't linked to me, and is always at my place without a battery. I can't see how LEO could use that either, and remember, know one knows where I actually live. Someone would have to be seriously staking me out to surmise what I am up to, and the deals are infrequent, maybe every other day and at different times. In that case I could be fucked, but that would be a lot of resources aimed at a small time guy like me with 15 clients. It is a risk, but I think a small one. If I keep being smart, I'm betting that I'll continue to fly under the radar and be just fine...
 
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