New Beginnings for Massachussetts and I

MrSeeDoubleU

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ttystikk said:
I've always wanted to visit Massachusetts and go sailing. Tough to get a lot of boat time in these puddles we have around here.

My best advice to the OP is to upgrade to COB LED as soon as you can afford it. That lamp will start to let you down in about 6 months due to normal deterioration.

Other than that- so far, so good!
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I plan to after a couple of harvest. Basically get what I can out of mh hps combo. Then def upgrade to full led setup.
 
MrSeeDoubleU

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I like that other locals are getting involved here as well. Great company to be apart of. I look forward to sharing what happens with each of our experiences.
 
Dude Guy

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Yeah dude for sure!
Your babies look nice and healthy! Just a word of advice from growing and transplanting other, non-cannabis plants. Try and make sure you don't overwater after a transplant. If the roots are getting all the water they need they won't want to search the vessel looking for water, growing a larger root structure. I just keep the soil on the drier side for a couple days and inspect about a week later.
Just some things I learned working a bamboo nursery.
 
Dude Guy

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Nice sounds good! I'm doing 2 mothers in soil and scrog 4 trees in coco. I haven't grown mothers before or taken cuttings so I got some learning to do.
 
MrSeeDoubleU

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Be4 what nice beautiful plants brother. What a difference between led and hydro set up compared to regs in soil. Mint. I plan to do hydro when I learn much more in the future also. Def need me some led ASAP too
 
akboarder

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be4meliz said:
4 weeks in from seedlings- These are White Widow Auto fems .Tallest 2 17 1/2 "- 2 on left in danger of getting crowded out-
Drinking 1- 1 1/2 gal. per day and still no pistils-
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Healthy looking plants man, my one advice for you would be to move your temperature/humidity gauge down by the canopy. This is where your reading counts and may be giving you an inaccurate reading because it is stuck to the light. The LEDs don't produce much heat, but still do. With a higher heat, you have a lower RH reading. Just my thought for more accurate numbers. Have fun with your autos! :)
 
be4meliz

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Thanks for the feedback, guys -
Mr.SeeDoubleU(CWU)-If you are into hydro, I have my original setup and cost -if on a budget look at bubbleponics 4 bucket along with my small tent(just Too short) order Autoflowers(suggest Seedsman) Won't outgrow space & beginner easy
https://www.rollitup.org/t/new-grow-with-drip-hydro.929911/
Just scroll down- complete shopping list with prices.
Unless doing stealth grow-tent, buckets,lights,hangers,temp/humity reader,Ph and PPM meter,Nutrients,Ph up& down,etc. & exhaust fan & ducting. Rest of the stuff is for my big grow.
akboarder- had on floor, moved to light(didn't realize it has magnetic backing, but your right, just no where convient, short of suspending it from roof.But by touch, casing is not really warm(will check with thermometer
 
akboarder

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MrSeeDoubleU said:
Be4 what nice beautiful plants brother. What a difference between led and hydro set up compared to regs in soil. Mint. I plan to do hydro when I learn much more in the future also. Def need me some led ASAP too
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Looks like you're doing good, and totally can relate to the newbie anxiety. With some experience and practice, you'll see what plants will tolerate and everything they can spring back from! Truly amazing living organisms to play with, watch grow, then reap the benefits from. I don't have dogs or cats, fish or reptiles- These are my pets!

Anyway, when you do decide to do hydro, I'd highly suggest trying coco out. It's the easiest hydro and the most forgiving in my opinion. It gives the ease of soil and the benefit of hydro. Granted, its different than soil but is what we suggest people start out with at the hydro store. Many less things that can go wrong compared to a bare-roots hydro set up simply because the issues are non-applicable.

I'm not sure if it was you, but when to clone came up i'm pretty sure on the thread. That depends. I like to let my plants first generation from seed to sex before I clone. A plant in veg will reveal it's sex by showing hairs or balls, this usually takes time though, as in around 2 months (depending on strain, some are faster). If you don't want to wait or have feminized seeds (which I don't do cloning of- too many experiences with hermaphroditic tendencies in flower after a few generations), you can do a solid topping of your plants to make clones. Instead of just taking the top node, you take a few nodes and the top 3 inches or so of the plant.

Last but not least, got a super banger product I suggest to you for veg. I'm not one to use many additives in veg, but I love Canna Rhizotonic. It is a root booster and the most aggressive and visually apparently working root booster I've ever used. I tried GH rapid start and saw no noticeable change, I've tried beneficial bacteria which I agree are good for the plant but are incomparable to the Rhizo. When I use this stuff on established plants, I see roots popping out the top of my coco looking for places to travel! I don't work for Canna, it's just a great product. No need to use it every time, I use it once every 3rd-5th watering or once a week (mind you, I'm in coco, so daily watering) depending on where i'm at. I don't use it in flower because I want the focus to be on bud development, but love it for veg. Seems spendy at around $80/L but only used in veg and every few waterings, it's worth every penny to me. If you can't afford it at one point, plants will get on just fine without it, it's just a great booster in the arsenal. They sell 250ml bottles if you want to try it on a single plant and make a decision from there too.

I also suggest HID lighting for flower. LED kicks butt in veg but covering a larger area with LED light sufficient for good bud development gets really pricey really fast. University of Utah did a cool study and produced a paper on different agricultural lighting and compared output to initial cost to electrical savings and concluded double ended lighting was the bees knees (if I remember correctly). Here it is, take what you will from it- I'm a nerd and love stuff like this. Truth is in the numbers! Best advice is think of what you have now and think of where you want to go. I was a grower who bought the 400w setup, then switched to 600w within 2 months, then went up to 1000w DE after 2 years. Needless to say, I could have saved just going with 1000w to begin with! http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0099010

Not trying to over complicate, but you DID ask for advice, haha. I suggest too checking out pH and how it effects plants and nutrient uptake. By getting a soil pH tester or a liquid pH tester to check the runoff pH, you can fix deficiencies that are manifested from pH imbalances. So the nutes may be there, but your plant just cant use them because the pH is too high or low. You may know this already, it's just a common reason I've seen new guys fail or at least have problems. Granted soil is a pretty good buffer and maintains pretty solid and within good range most of the time, but I have myself run into soil getting out of range and making for sad mothers during the little bit of time I did soil mothers.

Have I talked your ear off yet? Haha

Good luck, have fun, be safe, and congrats on the recent legalization! :) :weed: :joint:
 
akboarder

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be4meliz said:
Thanks for the feedback, guys -
Mr.SeeDoubleU(CWU)-If you are into hydro, I have my original setup and cost -if on a budget look at bubbleponics 4 bucket along with my small tent(just Too short) order Autoflowers(suggest Seedsman) Won't outgrow space & beginner easy
https://www.rollitup.org/t/new-grow-with-drip-hydro.929911/
Just scroll down- complete shopping list with prices.
Unless doing stealth grow-tent, buckets,lights,hangers,temp/humity reader,Ph and PPM meter,Nutrients,Ph up& down,etc. & exhaust fan & ducting. Rest of the stuff is for my big grow.
akboarder- had on floor, moved to light(didn't realize it has magnetic backing, but your right, just no where convient, short of suspending it from roof.But by touch, casing is not really warm(will check with thermometer
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Those usually have a hole in the back so they can be mounted on a wall with a screw. If you have the original packaging, it may have come with a screw that will fit that mounting spot on it perfectly. If you're one of those people with tons of miscellaneous screws that you've collected over the years from different products and projects, like me, you might have one to fit it. Screw that bad boy into your scrog PVC frame and you're got a temp/humidity measurement at canopy level. Also, that's the same scrog type I built when I first started! If the LEDs aren't really that hot, I don't see a problem but have never done the LED setup. HID is a horse of a different color :)
 
MrSeeDoubleU

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Alright lots of great information. I fucking love it! Keep it flowing I will have lots of questions some good some bad. Some I can easily find the answer to and will decide to ask it here any ways. Lol. So I bought ph tester couldn't get it. To Fucking calibrate properly. Then the thing broke 30 minutes later after still trying to calibrate. I'll show pic in a min. So just been doing color test paper on my oh for now with oh up and down product. I'm also using a product for veg roots as of right now that I layer in when I transplanting last night.
My house is already at as small as the plants are starting to stink when you walk in the door. Which wife is having a problem with since my father in law which is a copper. Came over to get our son tonight. Haha. I'm inly in a few weeks of veg. Haha.
So I have a 1000 setup MH HPS bulb ballast all that. The guy at hydro store told me to buy a 400 setup and run my veg like that and 1000 for flower. Is this wrong or what. I don't give a fuck about money saved on electricity. I want a killer fucking set of bushes in my house. To grow a tonnage of marijuana. BaHahaha. Thoughts on this last part please cause it's not to late to switch out lights bulbs ballast.
 

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Such a shitty device. Lol. I'm thinking of just going out and buying a really nice one at the store. Kinda expensive but I need something durable for my man hands obviously. Me break things pick them up out them Down.
 

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ttystikk

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I have a Blue Lab combo meter and I use it constantly. It holds calibration well, it's fairly resistant to abuse and neglect and it's pretty darn durable. Replacement pH probes are about $60.

HIGHLY recommended.
 
akboarder

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MrSeeDoubleU said:
Also these. I want two of these when I have the funds for them. For veg state and such. Then flower with my 1000 hps.

http://www.cobgrowlights.com/products/growthstar-scorpion-9x-cob-led-grow-light
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Good thinking man with the mh for veg and 1000w hps for flower. Like I said, LED do well in veg, but i'm biased, I don't like LED and don't think they're worth the time. We sell a 1000w double ended Phantom light set plug and play for $450 on sale right now. So $350 less than the LED. I'd stick to HID over LED but thats just me. Drop the cash and get a good pH meter. Bluelab is good for sure. Combo meter is maybe a little spendy so you could do the pens if you wanna save, but the combo meter does have a replaceable pH probe, which is a bonus. Remember to always keep the probe hydrated though. And never get one that's not water proof, accidents always happen. Check out carbon filters if you're concerned about smell. I'll hop back on, gotta run now though.
 
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