jigfresh
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hahaha... seriously dude... what the fuck is that? (shit got me laughing so hard)
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whodatnation
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hahaha the party cup does look funny lol
Its one of christines plants he wanted me to revive lol
naaa, its a bean plant I forgot about lol
Its one of christines plants he wanted me to revive lol
naaa, its a bean plant I forgot about lol
jigfresh
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That was my guess. Fucking awesome cola by the way, never said something before.
Also I may be travelling to new orleans soon, you'll have to tell me where I should visit.
whodatnation
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Thanks jig,
you'll have to tell me when your going
but for now all I can say is "UPTOWN" and frenchman street... please dont go to bourbon st, you wont like it lol
Im sure you want to know where the dank nuggetry is if your not bringing your own
I can set you up no doubt.
edit: not like set you up lol but like you know hahah it did sound fkd up at first....
you'll have to tell me when your going
but for now all I can say is "UPTOWN" and frenchman street... please dont go to bourbon st, you wont like it lolIm sure you want to know where the dank nuggetry is if your not bringing your own
I can set you up no doubt.edit: not like set you up lol but like you know hahah it did sound fkd up at first....
genuity
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i was hopeing i was not about to see a room full of them,i know your good n all,but dam.lol
whodatnation
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lol Iv been looking for that oil for 30 min now... My stoned ass put it somewhere...What up whodat? you still alive after smokin on all that oil? I'm gonna start calling you the pot undertaker, lol (because you look over the plant cemetary
They dont call my grow room the plant cemetery for nothin
budlover13
King Tut
THAT, is a pretty clean set-up man. Nice!
bigwood111
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Hey whodat. Just a quick question for you. I know you have covered it before but I cant seem to find it. What is a good compost tea mix for veg and then for flower and whats the feeding regimen? How often to feed the tea and what not? Thanks buddy
whodatnation
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~~~~ I find this post pretty useful. The info you seek is highlighted in green and Im gonna mix up whats highlighted in red tonight or tomorrow ~~~~~~
Here are some tried and true recipes for getting started in organic growing. Pick one of the first two soiless mix recipes for your grow medium. Then, choose a nute recipe that will work best for what you have available.
Enjoy...
Here are two very good organic soiless mixes...
LCs Soiless Mix #1:
5 parts Canadian Spaghnam Peat or Coir or Pro-Moss
3 parts perlite
2 parts wormcastings or mushroom compost or home made compost
Powdered dolomite lime @ 2 tablespoons per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of the soiless mix.
...Wal-Mart now sells worm castings.
Or, if you use Pro Mix or Sunshine Mix...
LC's Soiless Mix #2:
6 parts Pro Mix BX or HP / Sunshine Mix (any flavor from #1 up)
2 parts perlite
2 parts earthworm castings
Powdered dolomite lime @ 2 tablespoons per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of the soiless mix.
If you use a 3 qt. saucepan as parts in the amounts given above, it equals about 1 cu. ft. of soiless mix and you can just dump in a cup of powdered dolomite lime.
But, a "part" can be anything from a tablespoon to a five gallon bucket. Just use the same item for all of the "parts".
Now for the plants organic food source
RECIPE #1
If you want to use organic nutes like blood, bone and kelp...
Dry Ferts:
1 tablespoon blood meal per gallon or 1/2 cup per cubic foot of soil mix
2 tablespoons bone meal per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of soil mix
1-tablespoon kelp meal per gallon or 1/2 cup per cubic foot of soil mix or Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract as directed
1 tablespoon per gallon or 1/2 cup per cubic foot of Jersey Greensand to supplement the K (potasium) in the Kelp Meal and seaweed extract.
Mix all the dry ferts into the soiless mix well and wet it, but don't soak it with Liquid Karma and water @ 1 tbs./gal. Stir and mix it a few times a week for a week or two so the bacteria can get oxygen and break down the bone meal and make it available. And don't let the mix dry out, keep it moist and add water as needed. It'll also have time to get the humic acids in the Liquid Karma going and the dolomite lime will be better able to adjust the pH of a peat based mixture too.
RECIPE #2
If you want to use guano in your soil mix...
Bongaloid's Guano Mix.
Use all these items combined with one gallon of soil mix.
1/3C hi N Guano (Mexican Bat Guano)
1/2C hi P Guano (Jamaican or Indonesian Bat Guano)
1TBS Jersey Greensand
1TBS Kelp Meal
RECIPE #3 (My favorite)
If you want to use guano tea and kelp...
Guano Tea and Kelp:
Seedlings less than 1 month old nute tea mix-
Mix 1 cup earthworm castings into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
Add 5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses.
Use it to water your seedlings with every 3rd watering.
Veg mix-
1/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano (PSG)
1/3 cup High N Bat Guano (Mexican)
1/3 cup Earth Worm Castings (EWC)
5 tsp. Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract
(That makes the "dry mix". You can make all you want and save it to use later.)
Mix with water @ 1 cup of dry mix into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
To that 5 gallons of tea add:
5 tbs. Liquid Karma
5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses
Use it to water with every 3rd watering.
Flowering nute tea mix:
2/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano
2/3 cup Earth Worm Castings
2/3 cup High P Guano (Indonesian or Jamaican)
(That makes the "dry mix". You can make all you want and save it to use later.)
Mix with water @ 2 cups of dry mix into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
To that 5 gallons of tea add:
5 tbs. Liquid Karma
5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses
Use it to water with EVERY watering.
You can use queen size knee high nylon stockings for tea bags. 3 pair for a dollar at the dollar store. Tell 'em you use them for paint strainers. Put the recommended tea in the stocking, tie a loop knot in it and hang it in your tea bucket. The tea should look like a mud puddle. Agitate the bag in the water vigorously. An aquarium pump and air stone will dissolve oxygen into the solution and keep the good bacteria (microherd) alive and thriving. Let it bubble a day or two before you use it. If you find you are making too much tea and having to throw it out, use 2 1/2 gallons of water and cut the nute amount by half.
RECIPE #4
Three Little Birds Method
40 gallons used soil
4 cups alfalfa meal
4 cups bone meal
4 cups kelp meal
4 cups powdered dolomite lime
30 pound bag of earthworm castings . . .
Thats the basic recipe . . .
However we also like to use
4 cups of Greensand
4 cups of Rock Phosphate
4 cups of diatomaceous earth
RECIPE #5
Fish and Seaweed (This is sooo easy)
For veg growth
1 capful 5-1-1 Fish Emulsion
1 capful 0-0-1 Maxicrop liquid
1 gallon H2O
For early flowering
1 tbs. Neptunes Harvest 2-3-1 Fish/Seaweed
1 gallon H2O
For mid to late flowering
1 tbs. Neptunes Harvest 2-4-1 Fish
1 gallon H2O
And now for some more good tips...
Organic pH issues
I hear a lot of people asking or talking about the pH of their organic soil mix or organic nute solution and how they might correct or adjust it. pH in organics is not an issue like it is in synthetic growing.
The best place to settle the pH issues in organics is within the grow medium. A medium rich in humates (humus) is the place to start. Humates work to "buffer" the pH of organic mediums and the nutes you pour (or mix) into it.
Humates come from compost, worm castings and bottled humus. If you use a peat based medum, use dolomite lime to raise the pH of the acidic peat. Dolomite should be used in any soil or soiless medium to provide magnesium and calcium. But since we are talking about pH here, I'll mention dolomite lime's pH correction benefits.
A medium of coir has a pH near neutral (or 7.0). But humates are still neded to allow uptake of organic nutrients that are outside a near neutral pH range.
With an active medium rich in humates you can pour in nutes like Pure Blend Pro, Earth Juice and guano teas way outside the optimum pH range without worry. The humus will allow the nutes to be taken up through the roots, even at such an extreme pH reading.
So throw those pH meters away folks and enjoy the ease and safety of organic gardening.
Chlorine tap water
Just a word of caution for you organic heads out there...
If you are tapped onto a municipal water supply that uses chlorine to kill bacteria in the water, it'll do the same thing to the bacteria (microherd) in your organic food source.
Always bubble your municipal water in an open container (5 gallon bucket) for 24 hours before adding ANYTHING organic to it.
Flushing
There is absolutely no reason to "flush" organic nute solutions from your soil mix. In an organic grow, the plants don't take up the organic nutes (guano, bone, blood or kelp). The bacteria eat the organic nutes and excrete food that the plant can feed off of. So the organic nutes don't need to be flushed because they never enter the plant. And besides, meals like kelp, bone and blood along with worm castings and dolomite can't be flushed from your soil mix anyway. If you use guano and seaweed, try using plain water or worm casting tea for your last watering or two so the plant can use up what's left in the soil. But drowning your soil with water isn't necessary.
Here are some tried and true recipes for getting started in organic growing. Pick one of the first two soiless mix recipes for your grow medium. Then, choose a nute recipe that will work best for what you have available.
Enjoy...
Here are two very good organic soiless mixes...
LCs Soiless Mix #1:
5 parts Canadian Spaghnam Peat or Coir or Pro-Moss
3 parts perlite
2 parts wormcastings or mushroom compost or home made compost
Powdered dolomite lime @ 2 tablespoons per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of the soiless mix.
...Wal-Mart now sells worm castings.
Or, if you use Pro Mix or Sunshine Mix...
LC's Soiless Mix #2:
6 parts Pro Mix BX or HP / Sunshine Mix (any flavor from #1 up)
2 parts perlite
2 parts earthworm castings
Powdered dolomite lime @ 2 tablespoons per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of the soiless mix.
If you use a 3 qt. saucepan as parts in the amounts given above, it equals about 1 cu. ft. of soiless mix and you can just dump in a cup of powdered dolomite lime.
But, a "part" can be anything from a tablespoon to a five gallon bucket. Just use the same item for all of the "parts".
Now for the plants organic food source
RECIPE #1
If you want to use organic nutes like blood, bone and kelp...
Dry Ferts:
1 tablespoon blood meal per gallon or 1/2 cup per cubic foot of soil mix
2 tablespoons bone meal per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of soil mix
1-tablespoon kelp meal per gallon or 1/2 cup per cubic foot of soil mix or Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract as directed
1 tablespoon per gallon or 1/2 cup per cubic foot of Jersey Greensand to supplement the K (potasium) in the Kelp Meal and seaweed extract.
Mix all the dry ferts into the soiless mix well and wet it, but don't soak it with Liquid Karma and water @ 1 tbs./gal. Stir and mix it a few times a week for a week or two so the bacteria can get oxygen and break down the bone meal and make it available. And don't let the mix dry out, keep it moist and add water as needed. It'll also have time to get the humic acids in the Liquid Karma going and the dolomite lime will be better able to adjust the pH of a peat based mixture too.
RECIPE #2
If you want to use guano in your soil mix...
Bongaloid's Guano Mix.
Use all these items combined with one gallon of soil mix.
1/3C hi N Guano (Mexican Bat Guano)
1/2C hi P Guano (Jamaican or Indonesian Bat Guano)
1TBS Jersey Greensand
1TBS Kelp Meal
RECIPE #3 (My favorite)
If you want to use guano tea and kelp...
Guano Tea and Kelp:
Seedlings less than 1 month old nute tea mix-
Mix 1 cup earthworm castings into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
Add 5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses.
Use it to water your seedlings with every 3rd watering.
Veg mix-
1/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano (PSG)
1/3 cup High N Bat Guano (Mexican)
1/3 cup Earth Worm Castings (EWC)
5 tsp. Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract
(That makes the "dry mix". You can make all you want and save it to use later.)
Mix with water @ 1 cup of dry mix into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
To that 5 gallons of tea add:
5 tbs. Liquid Karma
5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses
Use it to water with every 3rd watering.
Flowering nute tea mix:
2/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano
2/3 cup Earth Worm Castings
2/3 cup High P Guano (Indonesian or Jamaican)
(That makes the "dry mix". You can make all you want and save it to use later.)
Mix with water @ 2 cups of dry mix into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
To that 5 gallons of tea add:
5 tbs. Liquid Karma
5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses
Use it to water with EVERY watering.
You can use queen size knee high nylon stockings for tea bags. 3 pair for a dollar at the dollar store. Tell 'em you use them for paint strainers. Put the recommended tea in the stocking, tie a loop knot in it and hang it in your tea bucket. The tea should look like a mud puddle. Agitate the bag in the water vigorously. An aquarium pump and air stone will dissolve oxygen into the solution and keep the good bacteria (microherd) alive and thriving. Let it bubble a day or two before you use it. If you find you are making too much tea and having to throw it out, use 2 1/2 gallons of water and cut the nute amount by half.
RECIPE #4
Three Little Birds Method
40 gallons used soil
4 cups alfalfa meal
4 cups bone meal
4 cups kelp meal
4 cups powdered dolomite lime
30 pound bag of earthworm castings . . .
Thats the basic recipe . . .
However we also like to use
4 cups of Greensand
4 cups of Rock Phosphate
4 cups of diatomaceous earth
RECIPE #5
Fish and Seaweed (This is sooo easy)
For veg growth
1 capful 5-1-1 Fish Emulsion
1 capful 0-0-1 Maxicrop liquid
1 gallon H2O
For early flowering
1 tbs. Neptunes Harvest 2-3-1 Fish/Seaweed
1 gallon H2O
For mid to late flowering
1 tbs. Neptunes Harvest 2-4-1 Fish
1 gallon H2O
And now for some more good tips...
Organic pH issues
I hear a lot of people asking or talking about the pH of their organic soil mix or organic nute solution and how they might correct or adjust it. pH in organics is not an issue like it is in synthetic growing.
The best place to settle the pH issues in organics is within the grow medium. A medium rich in humates (humus) is the place to start. Humates work to "buffer" the pH of organic mediums and the nutes you pour (or mix) into it.
Humates come from compost, worm castings and bottled humus. If you use a peat based medum, use dolomite lime to raise the pH of the acidic peat. Dolomite should be used in any soil or soiless medium to provide magnesium and calcium. But since we are talking about pH here, I'll mention dolomite lime's pH correction benefits.
A medium of coir has a pH near neutral (or 7.0). But humates are still neded to allow uptake of organic nutrients that are outside a near neutral pH range.
With an active medium rich in humates you can pour in nutes like Pure Blend Pro, Earth Juice and guano teas way outside the optimum pH range without worry. The humus will allow the nutes to be taken up through the roots, even at such an extreme pH reading.
So throw those pH meters away folks and enjoy the ease and safety of organic gardening.
Chlorine tap water
Just a word of caution for you organic heads out there...
If you are tapped onto a municipal water supply that uses chlorine to kill bacteria in the water, it'll do the same thing to the bacteria (microherd) in your organic food source.
Always bubble your municipal water in an open container (5 gallon bucket) for 24 hours before adding ANYTHING organic to it.
Flushing
There is absolutely no reason to "flush" organic nute solutions from your soil mix. In an organic grow, the plants don't take up the organic nutes (guano, bone, blood or kelp). The bacteria eat the organic nutes and excrete food that the plant can feed off of. So the organic nutes don't need to be flushed because they never enter the plant. And besides, meals like kelp, bone and blood along with worm castings and dolomite can't be flushed from your soil mix anyway. If you use guano and seaweed, try using plain water or worm casting tea for your last watering or two so the plant can use up what's left in the soil. But drowning your soil with water isn't necessary.
bigwood111
Well-Known Member
Thanks buddy. Super helpful. I'm off to the hydro store to pick up some of these items and get going.
Shwagbag
Well-Known Member
Duuuuude I just made a sick batch of Subcools super soil with some extra goodies! I can't freakin wait for this stuff to do work.
I'm looking at these mixes you posted and I'm wondering if you added more powdered lime to your Subcool mix. It seemed to me to call for a fairly low amount for the 8 bag mixture.
I'm looking at these mixes you posted and I'm wondering if you added more powdered lime to your Subcool mix. It seemed to me to call for a fairly low amount for the 8 bag mixture.
whodatnation
Well-Known Member
Every batch of SS is a sick batch!
I noticed the same thing about the dol lime but I stuck to the script with this batch. If I run into issues I'll chang but why fix what aint broken!?!
What ells did you add to your mix? hope it kick ass for you!
bigwood111
Well-Known Member
Whodat was also gonna ask you about this mix for 100 gallon outdoor. Im basically just using a mushroom compost, topsoil, perlite, and worm castings mix in 100 gallon smart pots. Does the same mix apply to soil applications? I would think that it would but you never know. Thx
whodatnation
Well-Known Member
The tea?
If your using compost I would just let them eat that up then add teas if they need food, but honestly I cant see it hurting anything
The teas also make a kick ass folier feed, just dilute and stain because it will clog a sprayer head quick.
If your using compost I would just let them eat that up then add teas if they need food, but honestly I cant see it hurting anything
The teas also make a kick ass folier feed, just dilute and stain because it will clog a sprayer head quick.
littlegrower2004
Well-Known Member
im still waiting to see this update!!!!!!!!!!! your going to get me banned for asking the same thing over and over!!!
whodatnation
Well-Known Member
haha sorry lg, lights out for tonight .. what a 
Its hard to look at them, even harder to take a picture. I will show tho.
Wait... I can muster up some veg pics. They'll have to do, beans and bread... no gravy.
edit: do you even put gravy on that, I mean beans is kinda gravy.
this fudge is killin me great stuff.
Its hard to look at them, even harder to take a picture. I will show tho.
Wait... I can muster up some veg pics. They'll have to do, beans and bread... no gravy.
edit: do you even put gravy on that, I mean beans is kinda gravy.
this fudge is killin me great stuff.
whodatnation
Well-Known Member
Space bombs I have five in 5 gal smarts
?purp getting ready for the 360* fingers crossed.
Blue widow, crical +, and a dog... now which one is which
^^^Stanks you bro ~~~
Durban mom,
BCO kush mix... havent researched at all to find out.
I also have another one that looks like this.
space bomb nut sack
?purp getting ready for the 360* fingers crossed.
Blue widow, crical +, and a dog... now which one is which
^^^Stanks you bro ~~~
Durban mom,
BCO kush mix... havent researched at all to find out.
I also have another one that looks like this.space bomb nut sack
littlegrower2004
Well-Known Member
nice nuts mannnnn!! everything in veg is looking real good there! is that new thousand gona go into the 360? is that COF fudge recipe or your own? did you try those bars yet haha? ummmmmm lets see any more questions??? i saw a guy on icmag with a sig that said all your kush are belong to us haha.
whodatnation
Well-Known Member
"yeah, its a super secret club... youv prob never heard of it." in my hipster voice... now I want to punch myself lol.
The fudge is from an old batch, it was funny. I forgot I ate it and Im laughing at the computer and kinda though huh what ever bowl I just smoked was stronger than I thought. Then it hit my body like a wave and I was soooo confused lol I couldnt figure out why I was fucked up, honestly I got kinda serious about getting to the bottom of it lol Awesome.
Oh yes the 1k will go in.
I still need to make those bars! shit!
littlegrower2004
Well-Known Member
bumppppppp
Space bombs I have five in 5 gal smarts
?purp getting ready for the 360* fingers crossed.
Blue widow, crical +, and a dog... now which one is which
^^^Stanks you bro ~~~
Durban mom,
BCO kush mix... havent researched at all to find out.
I also have another one that looks like this.
space bomb nut sack
?purp getting ready for the 360* fingers crossed.
Blue widow, crical +, and a dog... now which one is which
^^^Stanks you bro ~~~
Durban mom,
BCO kush mix... havent researched at all to find out.
I also have another one that looks like this.space bomb nut sack
