promedz
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Done this plenty of times glad others have great ideas as well
Need some seedling help.
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Daveindiego
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If mine get a little stretchy I just cover those stems with dirt and they grow roots, stretching fixed. Drooping doesn't hurt them. Yours look fine.
I just happen to have seedlings right now. Here I took this a few minutes ago to show you what I meant. I moved them 2 days ago from under my T5HO you can see where a couple leaves hit the light (ouch), look at the upper left, one of my GG#4 S1's, is drooping. She'll remain drooped until I up pot her into the 2 gallon I'll finish her in or she stands up on her own in which case I'll bury her close to the cotyledons (as I do all of them).
Edited to add they are under metal halide now in an air cooled hood, no more singeing
Lordhooha
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If you’ve had to do this plenty of times why not fix the issue causing it?
Because we smoke pot?
Daveindiego
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Best answer ever!!
Lordhooha
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But if the same issue happens every time why not fix it? It’s a simple fix lol move the light closer.
Flowki
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In coco you can go up to 3gal easily and pretty much water as normal if the 1L air roots were well established (also assuming the rest of the environment is in check). Out of interest if you were to go bigger, say 5gal+ you'd need to change the initial watering technique a little. You'd water a few litres around the stem in some 8inch circle. After a few days increase the water amount and size of the watering circle as the roots begin to branch out more and more. A little bit of guess work involved but soon enough you'd be watering the entire volume daily, if required. People use this technique out door with huge sizes. I guess it's to save on initial nutes but also to avoid compaction and other such issues.
You can use the same technique with 3 or 4 gal over a much shorter time but the roots in coco will expand so fast it's questionable if it's worth it. What seems to be the easiest way with no ill effect for that size is to saturate the entire pot and have a little run off. Feed every other day like that for a few feeds then step up to every day feeding if you like. So long as you have good clean coco it's fine. You could feed the full amount every day from the start but no real point, not enough roots to feed like that yet so you'd be wasting nutes/time.
Sounds simple eh? I have many tables. I lift the light to water, get called away and forget to get back to it. Do that a couple times early on and voila, stretchy stems. It's hardly a biggie just bury the curled stem.
Kingrow1
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Then why not post in newbie with your own kind and leave general for the general stuff not new growers problems like what the newbie forum is for.
Secondly you would have saved a whole load of bs if you just state you water these everyday rather than hold back obvious info.
Please block me, your not the type i identify with and am not in support of you or idiot members who preach struggle and still cant answer half the stuff i know here.
You and the organic tea boveda led jar wet bud crews are a joke here atm, i simply grow and know not teach and preach
Let me get that block button for you, can join docwho and the others who preached that led organic cure hype bs to get ya all to follow their magical special way rather than laying down as it should
crimsonecho
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Advice taken and ignored. Not gonna feed a miserable trollThen why not post in newbie with your own kind and leave general for the general stuff not new growers problems like what the newbie forum is for.
Secondly you would have saved a whole load of bs if you just state you water these everyday rather than hold back obvious info.
Please block me, your not the type i identify with and am not in support of you or idiot members who preach struggle and still cant answer half the stuff i know here.
You and the organic tea boveda led jar wet bud crews are a joke here atm, i simply grow and know not teach and preach
Let me get that block button for you, can join docwho and the others who preached that led organic cure hype bs to get ya all to follow their magical special way rather than laying down as it should
Daveindiego
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Thanks a miucornthe info.
Reason I was asking what you up pot to from a 1l pot was because those cups I use are just perfect for dropping into 3 gal pots, and I’d be thinking that a larger 1l pot would be difficult to ‘drop in perfectly’ in a 3 gal pot.
Daveindiego
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LULZ, I melted this snowflake this easily?Then why not post in newbie with your own kind and leave general for the general stuff not new growers problems like what the newbie forum is for.
Secondly you would have saved a whole load of bs if you just state you water these everyday rather than hold back obvious info.
Please block me, your not the type i identify with and am not in support of you or idiot members who preach struggle and still cant answer half the stuff i know here.
You and the organic tea boveda led jar wet bud crews are a joke here atm, i simply grow and know not teach and preach
Let me get that block button for you, can join docwho and the others who preached that led organic cure hype bs to get ya all to follow their magical special way rather than laying down as it should
xtsho
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I go from small nursery containers straight to 3 gallon fabric pots of 100% coco. Roots are poking out the sides in three or four days. I like using the small square nursery pots that fit nicely in a tray. It keeps things more orderly. Not a big fan of cups. I know a bunch of people use them but I like a nice orderly tray not a bunch of solo cups. Just a personal preference and it really makes no difference.
And even though I grow in coco I still start my seeds in soil. I make a mix of promix and earthworm castings with a little vermiculite. The small amount of soil transplanted into three gallons of coco doesn't effect anything. That allows me to just water with plain water and not worry about mixing nutes since the EWC will provide plenty of nutrients without the risk of burning the seedlings.
I keep the lights just a few inches away and on 24/7 for the first ten days or so before setting the timer for 18/6.
Flowki
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Get a air pot like this and test it https://www.hydroculture.co.uk/product_images/t/airpot-1-litre__66979.jpg
They are only 5 inches or so wide. Make sure you adjust the bottom mesh as far down as it will go to use the full volume. That also makes transplant easier. You unravel just enough to remove the bottom mesh, sit the pot into the new bigger pot, unravel a little more and the root ball will drop onto the new coco (about a 1/2 inch drop or less) then fill it in around the sides. It does take a little bit of care but no more than using a normal pot and having to tip shit upside down then man handle the root ball.
Alternatively, if you can't get your hands into the 3 gal due to the 1lair pot, unravel the 1L pot completely then gently support the root ball by hand and lower it into the pot that way. If the stem is strong enough (it will be by then) you could use that, gently as a handle, being a better option than man handling the root ball. But only in that circumstance since the 1l air pot will create a thick enough stem to safely allow it. Don't want people to get the wrong end on that one ;p..
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Dr. Who
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No. Simply bury these tall stemmed wonders, deeper in the up pot.....Bring the soil right up to the starter leaves....The single ones.
You want to not have the long stem seedling issue to start with?
Stronger lighting and start with the light closer to the seedlings....They are stretching to get into stronger light, to grow better.
I use a 4 bulb 2 ft T5 HO fixture. I run the 4 bulbs and keep it 5-8 inch's from the just popped children.
If using a cfl, go bigger watts and lower it closer.
LED, closer.
Dennyboy80
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Love this idea , respect