Need Serious Help Plants are dieing Possible early harvest (DAY 44 Flowering)

Ok let me tell you all the details of grow before saying whats wrong



(First Grow my thread is some where in this mess of forum)
Grow Closet Wrapped in Mylar with 2x240W Blackstar LED's
Girl scout Cookies
Transplanted from clone(via harborside) in 1gal's on 2/04 (FFOF) (was fed FF's Grow big every other) Temps and Humidity stayed around 70-75F and 35-50 Humidity all of Veg
Transplanted to 3gal's 3/10 (Natural organic; plants responded very well)
started flowering 3/22
Since 3/22 they have had 2 feedings of FF's Tiger bloom & big bloom. and straight water all others.

Reason for 45day veg is because a couple got transplant shock and i was attempting to get them to catch up, They are all different size plants but adjusted (sitting on different objects) to make the canopy flush.

One plant caught a Ph lock out and was flushed about a week or so ago. And this past week or two it has been getting pretty warm in there because of my whack ass old house with NO AC at all (fucking disgusting in here just for me) i believe the hottest temp i seen was 87F

The last feeding was 4days ago, they all got a very light dose of Tiger bloom&big bloom.After i fed it kinda seemed like the plants got limp? like the leafs didnt drop but it seemed like they got slightly weak...?I could mostly see the "limp" in the biggest plant because it has "bigger" nugs on it and they kinda just fell over, Since then ive been holding them up with each other in attempt to keep them up. i thought they were just adding weight to the nugs so they couldnt hold up straight but idk???

This morning one plant(smaller one) looked kinda sad and since these temps (most times with lights on its 79F+ alot of 83-84F) so they were time for watering. Watered them and when i came back about 4-5 hours later one looks COMPLETELY DEAD. Like its straight limp.... SO my guess is the little "weakness" i seen in my big plant was the same thing happening to the "smaller" plant because it is smaller?

What could have caused this? was it because of my feeding nutes? maybe they all got ph locked out? To be dead straight up i have never took a ph test yes rant on me please i know im sorry for fucking my own plants up ive been crazy overwhelmed with work and have had to let "nature" attempt to do her thing.

Looking at the Pics/story should i harvest. Honestly, Honestly (be honest with me) how is this bud going to be at 44 days of flowering? it looks really good and frosty (first timer) but i figure that 3weeks could do SOOOO much more.

Going to be getting pics here in a minute, thank you all for your advice and help!!

soil? ph? could be a number of things? but my uneducated guess is soil and ph

are you guessing the temps or do you have a thermometer? im asking cus if the house is uncomfortably warm for you the grow closet is gona be even hotter than that.

I'm guessing you are not helping by cramming them together to prop each other up, blocking light and air flow, but I'll wait for pics.

Bakatare666 said:

I'm guessing you are not helping by cramming them together to prop each other up, blocking light and air flow, but I'll wait for pics.

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I would figure the same, I really did not want to grow in these situations but I just attempted to let nature do her thing. Thankfully im installing a AC Unit (wall mount none-the-less) in the next 1-2 weeks but if this is heat oriented I don't think there gonna last two weeks here are some pics

Ghettobird209 said:

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Ya man, those plants are miserable.
Until you get an A/C unit or something, take a big bucket of water, add ice, and stick it in front of your fan blowing into the closet, kinda like a swamp cooler.
It will raise the RH some, but the diff. it makes in temp will be worth it.
Take some string, loop around your main stalk about halfway up, and poke a hole in the rim of the pot opposite the lean and tie them up.
Use a hot sharp piece of metal if you don't have a drill and bit to poke the holes.
Those look sad man, are they the same ones from your other thread that you were doing so well with?
Too bad you're not closer to me man, I got a nice big window A/C unit in the garage I have listed on Craigslist that I haven't had any bites on due to the rain.

It looks like a combo of a little bit of heat stress and maybe overwatering, they look healthy except for the drooping which means that they were overwatered. 84 is a bit hot but if its been steadily getting hotter than it wouldnt cause this all of a sudden. Try not watering them tomorrow or just skip one session that you do. I havent looked but if hou dont have any you could also put a couple of fans in your room. Also the branches may be falling simply because they are too heavy, try staking them up so they have some extra support.

Bakatare666 said:

Ya man, those plants are miserable.
Until you get an A/C unit or something, take a big bucket of water, add ice, and stick it in front of your fan blowing into the closet, kinda like a swamp cooler.
It will raise the RH some, but the diff. it makes in temp will be worth it.
Take some string, loop around your main stalk about halfway up, and poke a hole in the rim of the pot opposite the lean and tie them up.
Use a hot sharp piece of metal if you don't have a drill and bit to poke the holes.
Those look sad man, are they the same ones from your other thread that you were doing so well with?
Too bad you're not closer to me man, I got a nice big window A/C unit in the garage I have listed on Craigslist that I haven't had any bites on due to the rain.

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yah man tell me about it im so upset!!!!!!!! K i'll try that, so you think I shouldn't chop them down? even the really limped/dead looking one? The others don't look half as bad. AND yes these are the same plants!!!!!!! THey were doing great up until 4 days ago when I fed them, Then after that it seems like they got weak, Even though its been hot for atleast a week or so. ( id honestly say 2 weeks of 80F with lights on). They are starting to look really gooey and like some nice bud I would really be upset to waste 3months of work and money. Plus not get to smoke Keep them going?

Superstrainz said:

It looks like a combo of a little bit of heat stress and maybe overwatering, they look healthy except for the drooping which means that they were overwatered. 84 is a bit hot but if its been steadily getting hotter than it wouldnt cause this all of a sudden. Try not watering them tomorrow or just skip one session that you do. I havent looked but if hou dont have any you could also put a couple of fans in your room. Also the branches may be falling simply because they are too heavy, try staking them up so they have some extra support.

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I don't think it could be over watering, I water them the same 1gal of water every time, same thing this time, always get run off

Ghettobird209 said:

yah man tell me about it im so upset!!!!!!!! K i'll try that, so you think I shouldn't chop them down? even the really limped/dead looking one? The others don't look half as bad. AND yes these are the same plants!!!!!!! THey were doing great up until 4 days ago when I fed them, Then after that it seems like they got weak, Even though its been hot for atleast a week or so. ( id honestly say 2 weeks of 80F with lights on). They are starting to look really gooey and like some nice bud I would really be upset to waste 3months of work and money. Plus not get to smoke Keep them going?

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If you haven't changed watering habits, I wouldn't be too concerned about that, unless they are getting thirsty sooner than last week, or when this started.
I see fluctuations in mine all the time, even since I moved them to the final 5 gals.
I wouldn't chop yet man, try to hold out.
I don't think you got much there to chop yet.
Try cooling them off, even add another fan in the back at the opposite end of your closet blowing up towards the ceiling aimed at the door might help a little more.
Just a note, mine do OK even with my temps around 80, so shoot for that at leaf/ canopy level.

Bakatare666 said:

If you haven't changed watering habits, I wouldn't be too concerned about that, unless they are getting thirsty sooner than last week, or when this started.
I see fluctuations in mine all the time, even since I moved them to the final 5 gals.
I wouldn't chop yet man, try to hold out.
I don't think you got much there to chop yet.
Try cooling them off, even add another fan in the back at the opposite end of your closet blowing up towards the ceiling aimed at the door might help a little more.
Just a note, mine do OK even with my temps around 80, so shoot for that at leaf/ canopy level.

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That's what I was thinking.... LMAO yah I know theres barely anything there but I just don't want it to go bad? (if it even could) that plant just looks completely dead no? will it come back to life....?View attachment 2643355View attachment 2643356 I miss them being so small and easy to handle all I have to say is, you marijuana growers out there have some patience because I get really frustrated at times growing is a headache for me!!!

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That's what I was thinking.... LMAO yah I know theres barely anything there but I just don't want it to go bad? (if it even could) that plant just looks completely dead no? will it come back to life....?View attachment 2643355View attachment 2643356View attachment 2643357 I miss them being so small and easy to handle all I have to say is, you marijuana growers out there have some patience because I get really frustrated at times growing is a headache for me!!!

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Be positive man, I think you can save them.

Bakatare666 said:

Be positive man, I think you can save them.

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Thanks bro, you've been here since day 1 i'll take your word for it!! I'll check back in in the morning to tell you guys if they look any better

Ghettobird209 said:

Thanks bro, you've been here since day 1 i'll take your word for it!! I'll check back in in the morning to tell you guys if they look any better

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I'm just glad I noticed this thread was you as I was skimming the titles.
Usually somebody that says 'need serious help' is just someone that joined that day that hasn't bothered to read put soil FIRST, then seed into pot.

Bakatare666 said:

I'm just glad I noticed this thread was you as I was skimming the titles.
Usually somebody that says 'need serious help' is just someone that joined that day that hasn't bothered to read put soil FIRST, then seed into pot.

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Well I was quite lucky that you were on at the moment then!! LOL tell me about it I figured everyone was gonna think the same as my thread but I thought maybe some 1 will recognize my name! So here she is this morning..... u guys tell me what to do. As I said all other 3 plants look slightly "weak" but NOTHING like this one, Dead?

You know what, since you say it only happened when you fed them, I would tend to think there is a correlation, even though there is no burning visible.
Do you have a place outside you can put them to get some indirect light and fresh air/ light breeze?
I would say water the shit out of the one you just posted pic of, even though you watered yesterday.
Flush that thing and try to get as much air to her as you can after you tie it up like I suggested.

Bakatare666 said:

You know what, since you say it only happened when you fed them, I would tend to think there is a correlation, even though there is no burning visible.
Do you have a place outside you can put them to get some indirect light and fresh air/ light breeze?
I would say water the shit out of the one you just posted pic of, even though you watered yesterday.
Flush that thing and try to get as much air to her as you can after you tie it up like I suggested.

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Im guessing it has to be related to the nutes.... anyone have nutes go "bad" after leaving them in a hot area for too long? left my nutes in my grow room with the 80+F for a couple weeks then fed and now all these crazy problems arising..... i really wish i could throw them outside but i don't really trust my neighbor hood Hmmmm ok im so friggin frustrated right now i needa smoke a bowl.

Just did the 8gallon flush got her propped up and nice in a 75F breeze, See how she does idk though she looks quite gone.... Im starting to think that I need to flush my other plants as well to prevent them from dieing? as I said the bigger plants branches are straight leaning over and im holding them up, This started also with the Feeding 5 days ago....

Ghettobird209 said:

Just did the 8gallon flush got her propped up and nice in a 75F breeze, See how she does idk though she looks quite gone.... Im starting to think that I need to flush my other plants as well to prevent them from dieing? as I said the bigger plants branches are straight leaning over and im holding them up, This started also with the Feeding 5 days ago....

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Why don't you hold off for a couple hours, and watch to see if this one starts to perk up.