Need HELP...

dragongrower

Active Member
Well hello fellow growers...

I have been growing for a couple years now, nothing that spectacular though... I am looking to upgrade my system. I have a pretty good idea of what I want to do, just not exactly sure what the best way to do it is...

A little about what I have to start out with...

I have a grow tent that is 32x32x60 for vegging...

I also have a grow tent that is 48x48x84 for flowering...

Currently right now I am only using the 32x32x60 for flowering... Have a 400mh/mps setup...

This is what I'm looking to accomplish with me new setup...

I will be running a SOG grow with 2 week cycle rotations. I will be using an 8 week flowering plant. This means that every two weeks I will have a harvest... I am thinking about going with 4 plants harvested every two weeks...This means a total of 16 plants at any given time, perpetual harvest...
I have done this in the past, and haven't really like the results I have been getting off the 400hps.

I decided to move on to LED's. Was planning on getting 3 Apollo 10's. 2 for flowering and 1 for vegging...getting rid of 400hps...
The problem that I have run into is, well, they are fucking expensive, and the reviews are spotty as hell...

The spectrums that I was going to use are as follows...
Vegging
3 red 630
3 red 660
3 blue 430
2 cyan 500
1 blue 460
1 white 6500K
1 white 4000K
1 orange 610-615

flowering
6 red 660
4 red 630
1 red 730
1 blue 460
1 blue 435
2 white 4000K


After a lot of research I have found out that Cidly.com has a lot of bad reviews for selling junk...This puts me off the Apollo's because Cidly.com is one of the main suppliers...

I guess the question that I'm getting at is: 2 things...

REMEMBER ACT AS IF I KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT GROWING

1) What is the best setup (HPS, LED, CFL) to accomplish what I am trying to do... (please include all details)

2) Can anyone supply me with information on all the materials that I would need to build 3 LED's myself that are roughly 360 watts each...
a) this would include what diodes and where to get them... 1w, 3w, or 5w...
b) what drivers I would need and where to get them...
c) How to do the heatsink, what size, where to get...
d) Can anyone supply me with step-by-step directions from beginning to end on how to go about building one of these...

E) Granted I have absolutely no electrical experience at all, I just can't see spending $1100 dollars on 3 apollo's if I can build them for half the price myself...

F) I am NOT looking to buy cheap shit, If I'm gonna do it I want to do it right...
I don't want to have to buy something else next year because they don't meet my expectations or needs...

Any help that you can give me would be extremely helpful...
Thank you
 
As far as LED's for grow lights go, it's still in its "infancy" and the sourcing of components by anyone with a very limited electrical experience is touchy at best. HID's have a much better track record and if somebody held a gun to my head and said they wanted to do what you are attempting it would be HID's. ESPECIALLY if one of the criteria was you wanted to make SURE you would be happy with what you propose.

If you want to move 4 plants out every two weeks on a 8 week rotation, you need to have 16 plants in the flower stage at one time. Trying to keep this pace for any amount of time is a real job and you are entering the business of cultivation. You need much more space and lighting, again HID's would be your least expensive choice. Good luck!
 

topfuel29

Well-Known Member
There are DIY LED "how to" on some other sites. I was gonna try putting a led light together, but after looking at the led it self to get the good ones with the nanometer and wattage there expensive. If heat is an issue your better off with cfl's.
 

dragongrower

Active Member
I have been looking at CFL's a little bit today and found this setup... This is the single 2000watt setup they have...
Check out the link and let me know what you guys think...

2000watt flowering system

http://cfl-growlight.com/store/2000-...382c99e29e16a3


4000watt flowering system

http://cfl-growlight.com/store/doubl...unit-p-13.html


2000watt vegging system

http://cfl-growlight.com/store/2000-...-unit-p-8.html

Was thinking that the 4000watt flowering setup would be perfect for the 48x48x84 tent...or maybe do 2 of the 2000watt flowering setups...
And 1 2000watt vegging setup for the 32x32x60...

what ya think?
 

*BUDS

Well-Known Member
Let me get this right ,you had 400w hps and now you have ditched the hps and gone a bought a light that gives about 10% of the performance of the hps???? for a fucking fortune !
Put the leds away ,get the real grow light out (HPS) us ethat for veg and get a 1000w HPS for the flower room perpetual grow, all cooltubes. it was another issue that caused the lack of growth not the light.
Growers making a living from this use HID lighting ,cooled.
 

dragongrower

Active Member
I understand what you are saying... HPS and MH have been proven, that's a fact... The biggest problem with HPS systems is they cost too much to run... not to mention the wiring in my apartment (house) is spotty at best... My breaker box won't handle running two HPS systems...not even sure it would run a 1000watt... This is sort of my solution to that problem and still get great bud yield and strength...
my 400 hps is a cooltube...
 
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