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Mike_the_piper · Aug 11, 2022

waterproof808 said:
Those growths on the roots almost look like fungus the way it has a distinct cap.

farmerfischer said:
Congrats.. hope she blesses you with nice smoke..

Thank you! You don't think she'll make it a full flowering cycle being Started on the 1st?

turbobuzz · Aug 11, 2022

Looks like a caterpillar damage.

DCcan · Aug 11, 2022

waterproof808 said:
Those growths on the roots almost look like fungus the way it has a distinct cap.

There's some more hanging too, hard to see if its nematode growth on the root, or regular fungal and soil.

waterproof808 · Aug 11, 2022

DCcan said:
There's some more hanging too, hard to see if its nematode growth on the root, or regular fungal and soil.

It almost looks like some of the fungus I've seen growing in bags of soil.

farmerfischer · Aug 11, 2022

Mike_the_piper said:
Thank you! You don't think she'll make it a full flowering cycle being Started on the 1st?

She'll probably make it.. its a roll of the dice if its a sativa.. ill say yes it will if its a sativa dominate indica cross..

Tbess033 · Aug 11, 2022

waterproof808 said:
Those growths on the roots almost look like fungus the way it has a distinct cap.

hmmm... good eyes, i uncovered a few roots and they do look like caps on them. guess i have some fungus research to do now.

Southernontariogrower · Aug 11, 2022

Tbess033 said:
Anyone know what causes this disease in the second picture. We have tried everything and we have 2 plants of 500 that are unable to to pre flower? Any suggestions?

just a wild guess but if gg in mix could be tobacco mosaic desease.

Bud man 43 · Aug 11, 2022

I see webbing-

Southernontariogrower · Aug 11, 2022

Tbess033 said:
Hey guys, did some extensive research and we need your opinion on if were in the right direction with this one...

We took everyone's advice and ripped out the plants that displayed those viral signs and malformities in new growth. Well we took it a step further and dug up the roots to inspect every bit of the plant and soil that surrounded it. Two things we found kinda interesting. Take a look at the roots in the pics. After we cleaned them off, they seem pretty good but if you look close there appears to be some galls attached to a portion of the upper root mass. Its hard to tell if its intertwined with the root or is actually the root. After farmerfischer info on it being some type of leaf hopper, i looked up pathogens, viruses, and parasite effects that fell in the category of malformities in plant tissues and it led us to this online...

Hyperplasia is the enlargement of a plant tissue due to excessive increase in the number of plant cells produced. Hyperplasia results in overdevelopment in size of plants or plant organs. Hypertrophy is excessive growth due to the enlargement of individual cells. This condition also results in the overdevelopment in size of plants or plant organs. Hyperplasia and hypertrophy could result in the enlargement of leaves and fruits, and the enlargement of stems and roots.

So plant pathogens and parasitic insects can cause hyperplasia in plants, this is where farmerfischer leaf hoppers comes into play. We found like 5 different types of "grasshopper" like insects. So do these "malformed growths" popping up in other plants sound like a parasite being transferred from leafhoppers after a lil evidence? Or something else?

Those look like root nodes to me. Sorry but old with bad eyes. Looks like something toxic wouldn't allow them to grow. Some bad woodchip or something. Grasshoppers are not a bad sign if not munching. Means Brix is high enough so secondary metabolites working ot.

Tbess033 · Aug 12, 2022

Bud man 43 said:
I see webbing-

What do you mean webbing not familiar with that..?

Tbess033 · Aug 12, 2022

Southernontariogrower said:
Those look like root nodes to me. Sorry but old with bad eyes. Looks like something toxic wouldn't allow them to grow. Some bad woodchip or something. Grasshoppers are not a bad sign if not munching. Means Brix is high enough so secondary metabolites working ot.

crazy thing is all the new growth at the top of the other plant is mangled and deformed just like this one but this was the only one with those "root node"/"galls"

Bud man 43 · Aug 12, 2022

Tbess033 said:
What do you mean webbing not familiar with that..?

When I zoom in i can see some sort of webbing- like spider mites or something-

Kushash · Aug 12, 2022

Bud man 43 said:
When I zoom in i can see some sort of webbing- like spider mites or something-

Could it be the webbing look is coming from the thin rope?

Tbess033 · Aug 13, 2022

Bud man 43 said:
When I zoom in i can see some sort of webbing- like spider mites or something-

Ive never ran into any spider mites doing any of our farming so maybe im not looking for the right thing but if im not mistaken they like to inhabit the underside of the leaves. And weve been pretty vigilant in our inspections and theyve been pretty clean, But ill definitely double check.

Bud man 43 · Aug 13, 2022

Tbess033 said:
Ive never ran into any spider mites doing any of our farming so maybe im not looking for the right thing but if im not mistaken they like to inhabit the underside of the leaves. And weve been pretty vigilant in our inspections and theyve been pretty clean, But ill definitely double check.

You need to use a loop to see the mites and eggs

Tbess033 · Aug 23, 2022

Ran into another issue fellas maybe you can help out with this...

About 10 to 15 plants are revegging, I'm guessing from light that shines from our house late at night. They were about 4 to 5 weeks into flower, so growth on those buds are halted and new growth is emerging. So what happens to the existing buds during reveg and also when it goes back into flower? Are we suppose to chop the old bud or let it do its thing?

Bud man 43 · Aug 23, 2022

Looks like photoperiod stress. Lots of 3 lobe leaves. You really need stable periods of light and dark.
Although it hurts- I would cut my losses and start again. These will likely never produce good flowers.
I had plenty of 11 and 13 lobe leaves on fast growing healthy plants.
3 lobes could just be genetics but the plants pictured don’t look good to me.
Good luck

Tbess033 · Aug 23, 2022

Bud man 43 said:
Looks like photoperiod stress. Lots of 3 lobe leaves. You really need stable periods of light and dark.
Although it hurts- I would cut my losses and start again. These will likely never produce good flowers.
I had plenty of 11 and 13 lobe leaves on fast growing healthy plants.
3 lobes could just be genetics but the plants pictured don’t look good to me.
Good luck

So what happens to the old bud if it's left on there during reflower?

Bud man 43 · Aug 23, 2022

Tbess033 said:
So what happens to the old bud if it's left on there during reflower?

I believe you can just leave it- but they won’t develop properly. I think it will reveg then go into a new flower stage when light is under 12 hours. The flowers should be more developed at 5 weeks and at least beginning to calyx up.
Getting an area inside set up you will yield more flowers per plant- unless your outdoor conditions are really good- like Hawaii.

Tbess033 · Aug 25, 2022

Bud man 43 said:
I believe you can just leave it- but they won’t develop properly. I think it will reveg then go into a new flower stage when light is under 12 hours. The flowers should be more developed at 5 weeks and at least beginning to calyx up.
Getting an area inside set up you will yield more flowers per plant- unless your outdoor conditions are really good- like Hawaii.

you think it would be beneficial for the new flower emerging, if i chopped the undeveloped bud off?

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