Need help, smoking not what it used to be

Sansa17

New Member
I've put this on another site and am hoping to get some insight.

This is a difficult thing for me to write, mostly because I'm not entirely sure how to explain how I'm feeling. I've been a lurker on this site for quite some time and have been having some serious problems and decided to make an account and see what you guys have to say. Please bare with me while I try to explain this, and I really hope I can find some nice friends on here to talk to, I need it.

I've been smoking off and on for a few years now, so I'm definitely not a newbie by any means. But I had to stop while I was in the military, and I didn't really start back up, smoking evert day, until a few months ago. One of these times when I first started back up, I smoked a lot and got extremely high. It felt like I was completely detached from the world, my brain kept, moving in circles and I was in this trance. It didn't feel like I was dead, more like that I knew what the world really was. I kind of felt the world, and each second, was like this video:





Only instead of it zooming back in at the end, it zoomed out even further to start itself over again. Anyways, I guess I felt like I knew that that was how the world really was. That none of us really exist, it's all inside my mind. This went on for what I assume was a few hours and then I eventually woke up. I felt detached, cold, like nothing made sense anymore. But eventually all my warm feeling came back and I started to view the world as what we all see it for.

But sometimes, if I smoked a lot, I could get back to that trance level. It scared me, I didn't like being like that, and eventually I got used to smoking so much that I really couldn't get back to that level.

Then one night I decided to eat someediblesI made, and do .4 Molly and then smoke a lot. A first I didn't really feel anything, but eventually it all became way too much and I was freaking out. I felt insanely cold, time started to move and I would black out for seconds at a time. I felt like I couldn't talk but I was having conversations with people and they understood what I was saying. I became very uncomfortable with where I was and eventually ended up at a friends where I felt safe and could sleep it off.

Now, whenever I smoke, it becomes very easy for me to get into this trance feeling, where nothing is real. Before, it would take a few grams of smoking to get me like that, after the incident with Molly, sometimes I get that way after 1-2 bowls. It's seriously scary and I feel detached from the whole world. If I do something a certain way, it feels like it triggers it, but even if I don’t it just sneaks up on me. Humans, animals, nature, none of it makes sense, nothing makes sense. I feel like rooms and houses are just cages. I can't really explain it, but it's been freaking me out. I stated to go into one of these trances and I realized it, got up and tried to move around, bringing myself to reality, but it didn't work. It all felt like a horrible twisted dream where my stomach hurts and everything is spinning and not making sense.

I still feel completely detached and honestly feel afraid that nothing is real. I'm just hoping some people on here can comment about an experience they had or if you could give me advice. I'm going to stop smoking for a while. I miss the calming effect it used to have on me, but now I just get into this weird zone and it's just...it's not good. Sorry if I'm not making too much sense, I just don't know how to explain everything. So please comment so I have someone to talk to about this.
 

Sansa17

New Member
I guess I'm just trying to vent and see if anyone has ever had a feeling similar to this. Talking about it seems to help normalize the feeling I suppose.
 

WHODAT@THADOR

Well-Known Member
I've put this on another site and am hoping to get some insight.

This is a difficult thing for me to write, mostly because I'm not entirely sure how to explain how I'm feeling. I've been a lurker on this site for quite some time and have been having some serious problems and decided to make an account and see what you guys have to say. Please bare with me while I try to explain this, and I really hope I can find some nice friends on here to talk to, I need it.

I've been smoking off and on for a few years now, so I'm definitely not a newbie by any means. But I had to stop while I was in the military, and I didn't really start back up, smoking evert day, until a few months ago. One of these times when I first started back up, I smoked a lot and got extremely high. It felt like I was completely detached from the world, my brain kept, moving in circles and I was in this trance. It didn't feel like I was dead, more like that I knew what the world really was. I kind of felt the world, and each second, was like this video:





Only instead of it zooming back in at the end, it zoomed out even further to start itself over again. Anyways, I guess I felt like I knew that that was how the world really was. That none of us really exist, it's all inside my mind. This went on for what I assume was a few hours and then I eventually woke up. I felt detached, cold, like nothing made sense anymore. But eventually all my warm feeling came back and I started to view the world as what we all see it for.

But sometimes, if I smoked a lot, I could get back to that trance level. It scared me, I didn't like being like that, and eventually I got used to smoking so much that I really couldn't get back to that level.

Then one night I decided to eat someediblesI made, and do .4 Molly and then smoke a lot. A first I didn't really feel anything, but eventually it all became way too much and I was freaking out. I felt insanely cold, time started to move and I would black out for seconds at a time. I felt like I couldn't talk but I was having conversations with people and they understood what I was saying. I became very uncomfortable with where I was and eventually ended up at a friends where I felt safe and could sleep it off.

Now, whenever I smoke, it becomes very easy for me to get into this trance feeling, where nothing is real. Before, it would take a few grams of smoking to get me like that, after the incident with Molly, sometimes I get that way after 1-2 bowls. It's seriously scary and I feel detached from the whole world. If I do something a certain way, it feels like it triggers it, but even if I don’t it just sneaks up on me. Humans, animals, nature, none of it makes sense, nothing makes sense. I feel like rooms and houses are just cages. I can't really explain it, but it's been freaking me out. I stated to go into one of these trances and I realized it, got up and tried to move around, bringing myself to reality, but it didn't work. It all felt like a horrible twisted dream where my stomach hurts and everything is spinning and not making sense.

I still feel completely detached and honestly feel afraid that nothing is real. I'm just hoping some people on here can comment about an experience they had or if you could give me advice. I'm going to stop smoking for a while. I miss the calming effect it used to have on me, but now I just get into this weird zone and it's just...it's not good. Sorry if I'm not making too much sense, I just don't know how to explain everything. So please comment so I have someone to talk to about this.
Thats the way it is for me ...Was in the military and it destroy's me to smoke ..Immobilizing ,uncomfortable, otherworldly exp...My buddie's call me a "Poofer" I'm okay with that.... prolonged period's of stress do thing's to your mind that desensitize you yet sensitize you to new thing's in your environment does that make sense? It's all in finding your balance whatever that is....A poof or two is awesome for me but it suck's when around peep's that chief because I used to be able to but can't anymore ya trackin? O well ..hope that help's a bit
 

curious2garden

Well-Known Mod
Staff member
Some people can use pot without this happening. I'd leave weed alone for a good long time and if I tried marijuana again I'd do it with a good 50 mg of Benadryl on board. But frankly weed isn't for everyone nor is it for every stage of life.

If I were you I'd not take it until I attained the age of 30. Good luck on this,
Annie
 

WHODAT@THADOR

Well-Known Member
Some people can use pot without this happening. I'd leave weed alone for a good long time and if I tried marijuana again I'd do it with a good 50 mg of Benadryl on board. But frankly weed isn't for everyone nor is it for every stage of life.

If I were you I'd not take it until I attained the age of 30. Good luck on this,
Annie
Nah.....Just keep a Benzo on deck;);)
 

MASTERofTHEgrowers

Active Member
I've put this on another site and am hoping to get some insight.

This is a difficult thing for me to write, mostly because I'm not entirely sure how to explain how I'm feeling. I've been a lurker on this site for quite some time and have been having some serious problems and decided to make an account and see what you guys have to say. Please bare with me while I try to explain this, and I really hope I can find some nice friends on here to talk to, I need it.

I've been smoking off and on for a few years now, so I'm definitely not a newbie by any means. But I had to stop while I was in the military, and I didn't really start back up, smoking evert day, until a few months ago. One of these times when I first started back up, I smoked a lot and got extremely high. It felt like I was completely detached from the world, my brain kept, moving in circles and I was in this trance. It didn't feel like I was dead, more like that I knew what the world really was. I kind of felt the world, and each second, was like this video:





Only instead of it zooming back in at the end, it zoomed out even further to start itself over again. Anyways, I guess I felt like I knew that that was how the world really was. That none of us really exist, it's all inside my mind. This went on for what I assume was a few hours and then I eventually woke up. I felt detached, cold, like nothing made sense anymore. But eventually all my warm feeling came back and I started to view the world as what we all see it for.

But sometimes, if I smoked a lot, I could get back to that trance level. It scared me, I didn't like being like that, and eventually I got used to smoking so much that I really couldn't get back to that level.

Then one night I decided to eat someediblesI made, and do .4 Molly and then smoke a lot. A first I didn't really feel anything, but eventually it all became way too much and I was freaking out. I felt insanely cold, time started to move and I would black out for seconds at a time. I felt like I couldn't talk but I was having conversations with people and they understood what I was saying. I became very uncomfortable with where I was and eventually ended up at a friends where I felt safe and could sleep it off.

Now, whenever I smoke, it becomes very easy for me to get into this trance feeling, where nothing is real. Before, it would take a few grams of smoking to get me like that, after the incident with Molly, sometimes I get that way after 1-2 bowls. It's seriously scary and I feel detached from the whole world. If I do something a certain way, it feels like it triggers it, but even if I don’t it just sneaks up on me. Humans, animals, nature, none of it makes sense, nothing makes sense. I feel like rooms and houses are just cages. I can't really explain it, but it's been freaking me out. I stated to go into one of these trances and I realized it, got up and tried to move around, bringing myself to reality, but it didn't work. It all felt like a horrible twisted dream where my stomach hurts and everything is spinning and not making sense.

I still feel completely detached and honestly feel afraid that nothing is real. I'm just hoping some people on here can comment about an experience they had or if you could give me advice. I'm going to stop smoking for a while. I miss the calming effect it used to have on me, but now I just get into this weird zone and it's just...it's not good. Sorry if I'm not making too much sense, I just don't know how to explain everything. So please comment so I have someone to talk to about this.
hi what you are experiencing is the onslaut of cannabis indused Psychosis. I met people what never come out of psychosis at the hospital when I was there. one guy used to walk around all the time with his tongue sort of hanging out of his open mouth and dribbling he smoke too much to. Quite now or it will get really worse
 

ULEN

Well-Known Member
Oobe, how's the laughter when it occurs? Funny stuff huh.

If you're going to parlay, I suggest you change your state of mind and take a deep breath before you toke.
 

curious2garden

Well-Known Mod
Staff member
hi what you are experiencing is the onslaut of cannabis indused Psychosis. I met people what never come out of psychosis at the hospital when I was there. one guy used to walk around all the time with his tongue sort of hanging out of his open mouth and dribbling he smoke too much to. Quite now or it will get really worse
....... and it's back to medical school for you!

Substance abuse psychosis, I should let sunni answer this, is not just caused by Cannabis. For it to be longer-lived than the drug that caused it often requires an underlying psychopathology.

Correlation is not causation, simply because two, or more, unrelated things occur simultaneously does not infer cause! Often the age of onset for certain mental illness is coincident with adolescent drug experimentation. It can simply be some very bad luck and poor choices.

But when you have a bad drug experience stop using them. We could learn a lot from Amoeba's elicited response to noxious stimuli here.
 

Unclebaldrick

Well-Known Member
Some people can use pot without this happening. I'd leave weed alone for a good long time and if I tried marijuana again I'd do it with a good 50 mg of Benadryl on board. But frankly weed isn't for everyone nor is it for every stage of life.

If I were you I'd not take it until I attained the age of 30. Good luck on this,
Annie
Gah, Benadryl. The last thing I remember for quite a while yesterday was a nurse injecting a bunch into my iv. The rest of the day was a fog.

But OP, if that happened to me when I smoke weed, I would not smoke weed. I guess it depends on how you feel about a disassociated state. I'm agin it personally.
 

MASTERofTHEgrowers

Active Member
....... and it's back to medical school for you!

Substance abuse psychosis, I should let sunni answer this, is not just caused by Cannabis. For it to be longer-lived than the drug that caused it often requires an underlying psychopathology.

Correlation is not causation, simply because two, or more, unrelated things occur simultaneously does not infer cause! Often the age of onset for certain mental illness is coincident with adolescent drug experimentation. It can simply be some very bad luck and poor choices.

But when you have a bad drug experience stop using them. We could learn a lot from Amoeba's elicited response to noxious stimuli here.
sorry but I have a medical degree form Harverd I know what is up
 
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