Need Help Please - First Grow indoors

thanks for your help, might as well start somewhere, thats what I was asking is what ideas everyone brought to the table, sucess or failure

ok all these are fine but learning to use them is a different story.and this is where you learn. i still recomend you stick with soil for the first one to learn more about nutes,life cycles,health issues,environment, and each strain will be different. with soil there is more room for error,and more time to fix problems making it a good learning oppertunity for a noob...

those cool cabs by sunlight sheds are a nice set up and new they come with lots of supplies,make your own out of a metal cabinet or wood is probably cheaper and you will learn more and why by building yourself. some 2x2 wood for frame and particle board is basically the same but way cheeper, a friend of mine even used thick dense styrophome like that blue stuff which is used as insulation in houses.
daystar reflector looks a little small. try something that is almost the size of box,better light distribution.
mylar is better. it reflects the light better, black/white is cheeper and is morefor light leakage, flat white paint will give the same reflection as plastic.
as far as a humidifier i would recomend a combo dehumidifier and humidifier combo. you can have it do both so you have a perfect environment with atmospheric control panels if you need it.
co2: i would stay away from till you learn more. it can be dangerous to humans; to much is not healthy. for the cost of them and the yield difference i would stay away.
water chiller cooler: water holds up to 20% more o2 at 72 degrees than at 68 degrees, a reverse osmosis is probably the best thing to do with water. it uses a uv light to purify water. or just a tub with a fish tank filter to clean impurities is all i use, and thier cheep.
hepa filters imo are a waste of money, constantly changing filter. dont need any filter on intake only exhaust...hepas will purify the air none the less but will not remove the smell of a fatty flower...they are used for larger particles in the air such as cigarette smoke and pollen...maybe use the hepa after the carbon filter to remove the slight carbon smell from the carbon filter..?
fan size depends on the room size.multiply the lenght x width and x hight and that is your cubic footage.and keep in mind that a filter would cause back pressure and you would smell it outside room. The idea is to have a higher cfm than your qubic footage to creat negative pressure so air is always entering the room and not leaking. some good fans for quiet are called huricane fans...they are quite expensive for what they are but very quiet and efficient at moving lots of air...used with a spped control you can adjust the cfm to what room size you choose.
the areoponic stuff like i said before i realy dont recomend it. stay with soil on the first one and once you learn more you can always change later, dirt is so much more cheaper. with water you need to add nutes every time you feed them with soil it`s only every week or so...

I suggest you go easy and learn from the soil...being new you need to know things before hopping to hydroponic or areo. You will experience different plant problems, airflow, nutrients requirments, light spectrums and quite a bit more...starting just soil for now will give you a better idea of where you will take your grow, in soil organics has major differences than hydroponic or aeroponic...find the way thats easiest for you but know the basics first...
with areo and hydro you only have a couple of hours to save your plant if something goes wrong, with soil at least you have more time to figure issues out or to ask questions and solve problems...

major problems happen in hydro in a matter of hours compared to a matter of days in soil thats the basic point soil is easier to learn with hydroponics and especially aeroponics is for more experienced growers who know a mg def or nute lock or ph varience the second they see, it because you only have a short time to correct it. where as with soil most problems are easily correctable for a period of days

which is also why i suggested what i did because it gives you an easy to use taste of both worlds, soil and hydro its a very hard system to screw up with and you can worry more about becoming a good grower while learning the basics of both hydro and soil .but what the eff do i know?

Thank you both for all the info, the cool tubes I was talking about was for around the light to cut down the heat, I found it below that's what I was asking about. I already have a 72x48x24 cabinet ready to go. I think you guys may be right about starting out with soil. I think I will try out NL ladies with a 600W. I was thinking of using the top shelf for a germination dome, any thoughts on that or just wasted space? Do you think a resivor would be a good idea or just another waste of space. I have looked into the passive hydro systems, still trying to find something that will work for my build, would like to build it myself, jsut find a similar idea for sale or in use.

cool tubes link
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i was reading back through your thread and i noticed you said you bought a sun shed. if you did that thing is sweet. and if your realy hooked on water do some reading on the following items, and keep in mind this is only some of the things you will have to know inside and out :.........

nutrients with hydro, plant problems ( big one), ph/ec or ppm, sea of green.

if thats the cabinet you bought thats all you need to get a good start. you could also use soil in that to learn, just take the lids off the tubs and fill with soil. i`m doing some pic`s in a bit

heres some pic`s of my flower room.threw it together pretty quickly. probably hydro next time.

Looks great, how good are those filters is there still smell with it? Going to do some reading when all these books get here!

I heard the Bloom Box from bcnorthernlights.com is a dope setup. Check it out

those filter are awsome. i bought 3. 1 ,4 inch and 2 ,6 inch. they are guaranteed for life. they are suposed to last a year before needs recharging, then you just throw it in the dryer,thier washable. the 6 inch was only 70 bucks. thier from australia i think. check for them. thier is no smell so far and this is my second batch with them, 8 plants both times right now 23 days flower no smell.you do smell the carbon if your in the same room.but no biggy it just smells clean.

Nice bonz Sw33t setup man

Looks like I wil be going with the TurboGarden ebb & flow system for 8 plants, using a T5 light setup with 8 bulbs to conserve on space. With the saved space from the lights I will add a germination dome on the top shelf with a single T5 light. Can't wait to get it all together and give it a test run!

nice choice, i`m reading about those bulbs right now sounds good.

what are the k`s on those things?

Time to start!

There are 8 (2 Red, 6 Blue) bulbs they are 6,500k's went with the Sunblaze T5 48 light setup to cut down on heat and space. Will be growing in the Bontanicare Turbogarden ebb & flow, it alows for a total of 14 plants, but think I will only use 6-8 pots. WIll be growing in an Organic Soilless mix. cabinet measurements are 73" tall, 47" wide, 22" deep. Picked up some seeds from a friend to start out with. Still not sure if I got the whole nuts figured out yet. Added some pics of the light and system I will be using.

hey stranger. nice investment. if ya dont mind how much were the lights

The lights were about $250

sweet set up bud best of luck setting up. i`ll keep watching

Thanks, I got it all up and running the other day. I was able to get 8 good seeds and they are all about1"-2", I set the timmer to run the water pump for 15 min every 3 hrs. Do you think this will be to often? Was also wondering if I should add 1/4 of the reccomended nutes or wait. Ph is 6.0.

i forget is this going to be soil or hydro