Dank_Nugs93
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Drip Clean is a House and Garden product for flushing out salts and cleaning up the media. Which in this case I think thats part of my problem. Do you think I should use an Enzyme like hygrozyme next time instead?
Need Help Leaves Yellowing/Purple edges Slowed growth at Tops
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PadawanWarrior
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Don't use that shit. It looks like its for drip systems. It also has a ton of P and some K in it. Drip Clean (0-18.7-6.1). If you want to use anything to flush out some shit add a little citric acid for your pH down. Yucca will help too. Hygrozyme is decent stuff, but it's expensive and I don't think it's worth it, unless maybe you're reusing coco. I did use it when I started growing though.
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Drip Clean is an extremely useful agent for anyone working with a drip system. Drip Clean works as a magnet, removing dirt particles at every nutrient feeding so that the piping remains clean. Drip Clean futhermore gives plants a boost, improving their greenness and vitality. Drip Clean is a...
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xtsho
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Just feed plain water for awhile and then go back to just the A/B and maybe a couple other things if you feel the need.
You don't need to bother checking pH runoff either.
And that drip clean is unnecessary as well. It's just phosphoric acid and potassium oxide. The same thing as Pekacid which can be purchased for under $15 a pound in water soluble form. One pound will make gallons and gallons of that bottled stuff. Which is all they're doing. Diluting it and putting it in a bottle. It's really not intended for using the way you are in containers of soil.
Same NPK ratio of P to K but Pekacid is stronger since it hasn't already been diluted with water.
Drip clean
0-0.18-0.6
Pekacid
0-60-20
You don't need to bother checking pH runoff either.
And that drip clean is unnecessary as well. It's just phosphoric acid and potassium oxide. The same thing as Pekacid which can be purchased for under $15 a pound in water soluble form. One pound will make gallons and gallons of that bottled stuff. Which is all they're doing. Diluting it and putting it in a bottle. It's really not intended for using the way you are in containers of soil.
Same NPK ratio of P to K but Pekacid is stronger since it hasn't already been diluted with water.
Drip clean
0-0.18-0.6
Pekacid
0-60-20
PadawanWarrior
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Wow. Good call. Exact same ratio.Just feed plain water for awhile and then go back to just the A/B and maybe a couple other things if you feel the need.
You don't need to bother checking pH runoff either.
And that drip clean is unnecessary as well. It's just phosphoric acid and potassium oxide. The same thing as Pekacid which can be purchased for under $15 a pound in water soluble form. One pound will make gallons and gallons of that bottled stuff. Which is all they're doing. Diluting it and putting it in a bottle. It's really not intended for using the way you are in containers of soil.
Same NPK ratio of P to K but Pekacid is stronger since it hasn't already been diluted with water.
Drip clean
0-0.18-0.6
Pekacid
0-60-20
I don't measure how much I get. I don't sell. I hunt and then breed pain relief strains. Anyway I have way more weed than I can use in several lifetimes. Even giving it away and concentrating it and I'm still drowning in the shit.
Exactly
@xtsho, et al are brilliant. I learn something new every day here.Dank_Nugs93
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Damn never noticed that...Im never using drip clean again. I do have a lot of Hygrozyme left, might as well use it.Don't use that shit. It looks like its for drip systems. It also has a ton of P and some K in it. Drip Clean (0-18.7-6.1). If you want to use anything to flush out some shit add a little citric acid for your pH down. Yucca will help too. Hygrozyme is decent stuff, but it's expensive and I don't think it's worth it, unless maybe you're reusing coco. I did use it when I started growing though.
HOUSE AND GARDEN DRIP CLEAN | Homegrown Hydroponics
Drip Clean is an extremely useful agent for anyone working with a drip system. Drip Clean works as a magnet, removing dirt particles at every nutrient feeding so that the piping remains clean. Drip Clean futhermore gives plants a boost, improving their greenness and vitality. Drip Clean is a...
Ok Ill just use water with hygrozyme for 1-2 times then ill start giving them A/B and maybe add some Overdrive because week 6 starting soon.Just feed plain water for awhile and then go back to just the A/B and maybe a couple other things if you feel the need.
You don't need to bother checking pH runoff either.
And that drip clean is unnecessary as well. It's just phosphoric acid and potassium oxide. The same thing as Pekacid which can be purchased for under $15 a pound in water soluble form. One pound will make gallons and gallons of that bottled stuff. Which is all they're doing. Diluting it and putting it in a bottle. It's really not intended for using the way you are in containers of soil.
Same NPK ratio of P to K but Pekacid is stronger since it hasn't already been diluted with water.
Drip clean
0-0.18-0.6
Pekacid
0-60-20
PadawanWarrior
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I wouldn't start adding too much shit at once. Overdrive is for cars, lol.
xtsho
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I've spent more time than I care to admit looking up what's in products. I probably know more about what's in all these cannabis specific nutrients than most people that actually use them.
I got the pekacid years ago when I first started using blumats and was worried about the lines clogging as they're only 3mm. I think I used it for 1 reservoir fill and stopped. I never got clogged lines without it so it's been sitting on a shelf ever since. I can always use it for pH down for coco grows since it's mostly just a dried form of phosphoric acid with some potassium. It's also used as a P supplement in calcareous soils.
Southernontariogrower
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Ive tried dwc and used hygrozyme in res, l grow slime it should be named. Over a month in flower and first bucket lve used calmag in, didnt need it but trying for very successful run this time. Used every feed in veg. All feeding has been half strength except last feed and this feed, soil grow. 15g pot, give a few waterings with fresh water early on. So far so good. Feeding every watering now, no runoff. Few drops maybe. Dropped si after veg too, find they break easier if too tough. Using powdered nutes Pure by Cannapro, first time. They make you math to find out mix, only tell N values in ppm. 9-31-20 higher than most nutes lve used. Btw my calmag is 14-0-14. Same company. Very high imo.
xtsho
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Hygrozyme is just a combination of enzymes. You can buy 100 grams of cellulase powder for $20.
myke
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Doesnt matter,inert medium packed with salts same as coco when you dont feed to runoff.
OP Says runoff ppm is 3300 thats 6EC!!! Of every bottle you can buy.Any organic stuff is long dead and drowned in big ass bloom lol.
Once you feed that much bottled stuff you treat it like coco just higher pH.
Feed to runoff until the ppm of it comes down to normal.
At this point I think its too late but worth a try.
PadawanWarrior
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What are you talking about man. Inert? It's FFOF. I think you are confused with the meaning of "inert". Not trying to be a dick, because I agree with most of what you say, but that's just wrong. It's not dead just because he's been giving a bunch of chemicals.
Dank_Nugs93
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Sheesh lol do you think I can still get a normal harvest if I only give water and maybe sometimes 1000ppm? I mean I’m only in like day 33
myke
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FFOF is just peat with some other stuff.Ive saved a few grows this way.Feed to lots of runoff just like coco.Several good growers here grow in peat and thats what they do.My first organic grow went to shit half way through,feed salts to runoff everytime and saved it.
Yeah you can baby it water water feed but how much feed is there ,take the guess work out ,feed,feed, feed to lots of runoff.
Ever read doubleAtotheron thread? Feed,feed,feed.
PadawanWarrior
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Ya I know him. I remember when he joined.
I know what FFOF is. I started with that 3 years ago and am still using the same soil, kinda. I turned it into no-till. I don't use the chemicals though.
myke
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Im not sure but I dont think the OP will re use the FFOF with all whats been put in?He could though. Ive often said if your going to bottle feed most of the way through just start with promix or coco.
That's another reason I find your input very valuable. I have not done that. Well, to be fair, there's that bacon and bread too
myke
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I would be experimenting,speed up the learning curve.You have a lot of plants.Try a few different things, make notes and press on.Let us know what you find.
LOL that sounds a lot like the impatient version of me
We all learn and grow at our own rate. I've slowed down a bit. I blame it on pot 
myke
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You just dont run into issues anymore,Ill get there one dayLOL that sounds a lot like the impatient version of me