need help badly in lighting please help! (with pictures)

icebox7420

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i have a T5 tricolor 8W flourescent lamp and a GES 9W Led light bulb.

is it ok to use this here are some pictures of my lights that will again be put to my cabinet grow box.

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the green lamp has the GES 9watt lamp

please help
 

richinweed

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yOUR GONNA GROW UNDER 17 WATTS...SERIOUSLY?......i really think you could benefit from reading and research before you break the law for nothing...seriously...
 

oldleave53

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Hey Icebox your definately going to need alot more light. When growing with flo's you always need a ton. Flo's are definately easier and alot of fun because you can move a single bulb anyplace in your grow area. So having alot can really benifet you in the long run.
 

icebox7420

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My estimated conclution: "Add 3 x 26w UVB lights / m2 to your grow room and increase THC levels up to 30% in buds"


Read this science article regarding UVB lights effect on drug type cannabis originated from high heigted tropical areas with highly elevated UVB levels. In experiments with plants they have shown an increase of THC concentration levels in leaves (glands) from in a range from 22% - 48% depending on UVB intensity. In flower trichomes they got an increase between 15% - 32%. Thats staggering news! Now, this is laboratory conditions with UVB lights filtered to emitt in 300 nm wavelenght UVB light. It's widely known that THC UVB absorption properties range between 280 - 315 nm, so that is important. There's no longer any doubt in my mind that UVB boosts the THC potency of drug type cannabis, and that dont having UVB light is not realising the full potential of our dear plants! Time for a change imho!

What id like to do is to get an estimate on how indoor growers could reproduce this results at home. To get an estimate on what lights, how much lights, and so on, wich could be beneficial. According to the scientists they used 240w UVB, but i dont know on how big of an area. The scientists says that 13,4 KJ / m2 is the level of UVB used in their trials, and that is as much as the UVB levels in 3000m altitude in mountains where strong marijuana is found to grow. According to the article marijuana grown in these UVB rich areas has a 33% increased THC content compared to the same marijuana grown at sea level.


Looking at wikipedia, i found that 1w = 3600 J (3,6KJ), but that seems a bit high compared to the ammount used by scientists, so I devided it to 0,36 KJ instead thinking i made some error somewhere. If i divide 240w (amount UVB scientist used) in 5m2, i get roughly 72w/m2, wich is around 14KJ according to my estimates, and that fits exactly and seems to be a fair estimate, so i think im on the right track here! Then, a 13w UVB light would give 4,5 KJ. Thats what i use, and that seems a bit lesser than needed. 3 x 26w UVB / m2 in the right spectrum should to the trick to produce massively strong cannabis with approximately up to 30% increased THC production in buds! I noticed the UVB bulb I use has the perfect spectrum for cannabis, repti glo 10.0. They come in 13w and 26w strength, and is avalible in sorted zoo shops.


It need to be stressed that UVB light is harmful to humans and plants that dont have developed defences to it (like cannabis has). When having such a bulb in the grow room, it need to be switched of when entering to room. DNA damage and cancer is a known effect of UVB light exposure. Treat the bulbs as if they're radio active.
thanks for the info, so i really need some 3 26watts bulb damn.
 

icebox7420

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Hey Icebox your definately going to need alot more light. When growing with flo's you always need a ton. Flo's are definately easier and alot of fun because you can move a single bulb anyplace in your grow area. So having alot can really benifet you in the long run.
thanks for the comment sir

i am a newbie on growing, i already have done a couple of researches and readings regarding on growing pot.

i just want to really know if i really need that many bulbs, i admit that i am having a hard time to be convinced by what people tell me / told me to do, but well that is just some of my personal facts in my life. and probably because i dont want to make a mistake and let my 1st grow die, i want my 1st grow to have a good yield and quality as much as possible. :)
 

oldleave53

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Hey man you can grow anything with just 2 or 3 bulbs. BUT, if you want a good yeild the more cfl's you have the better it will be. "You can never have enough cfl's". FLO's RULE!!!!!!!!!!!! lol.
 

icebox7420

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yOUR GONNA GROW UNDER 17 WATTS...SERIOUSLY?......i really think you could benefit from reading and research before you break the law for nothing...seriously...
i have did a couple of researches, it's just that i am not that convinced(like my mind is like should i believe this person? or the other person? or the other person? or me? or should i believe this website? or should i buy a book?). it is just one of my personalities sir.
 

richinweed

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i have did a couple of researches, it's just that i am not that convinced(like my mind is like should i believe this person? or the other person? or the other person? or me? or should i believe this website? or should i buy a book?). it is just one of my personalities sir.
...iTS ALL GOOD TO BE NEWBIE!..but i would suggest a good book...google ed rosenthal, he is the premier grower of the century and has done years of reasearch in conjunction with university affiliation.....check him out, also i will add that you need to have way more light ..
 

icebox7420

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Hey man you can grow anything with just 2 or 3 bulbs. BUT, if you want a good yeild the more cfl's you have the better it will be. "You can never have enough cfl's". FLO's RULE!!!!!!!!!!!! lol.
alright! many thanks to you sir oldleave53

i am really excited for tomorrow, i'ma go to a good hardware shop tomorrow, i just hope that my mom would not get mad at me for swiping card for CFL's. (desperate measures, no money even a cent in my wallet).

how about if buy 2 26watts CFL's tomorrow to start of and ill just add the T5 8watt tricolor lamp and the GES led lamp.

oh and one thing, how do i ask the salesman on how will i buy blue bulb thingy (i dont know what do you call that but i read that there is a blue bulb thingy for vegging).
 

Cajun Grower

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you would be alot better of buying a hps a 250 r 400 would be better than tht it takes alot of cfls to get a decent grow wht ur gonna spend on all those bulbs snd hardware to set it up u can buy a decent hps and have alot less bs and better plant been there done tht learned my lesson the hard way ! i hav cfls for sale make you a good deal but its not wrth it !
 

Cajun Grower

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cant believe ur gonna steal from ur parents to grow weed come on dude grow up get a job save some money and do it right if ur gonna do it at all skimping will get u small mediocre plants not wrth it !
 

icebox7420

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...iTS ALL GOOD TO BE NEWBIE!..but i would suggest a good book...google ed rosenthal, he is the premier grower of the century and has done years of reasearch in conjunction with university affiliation.....check him out, also i will add that you need to have way more light ..
that is also a problem to me, no cash in my pockets right now,

tomorrow i gonna buy some CFL's like 2 maybe each like 26watts, i had a first setup of a growbox but it's so lame that why again a put it on outdoors on morning and get it
indoors and open 3 ceiling lights with each of 9 watts CFLs here at my house.(i have read in some article in the internet that when pot receives light, it will just keep on vegging). i don't know if that is true but trying it is an effort and a chance.
 

icebox7420

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cant believe ur gonna steal from ur parents to grow weed come on dude grow up get a job save some money and do it right if ur gonna do it at all skimping will get u small mediocre plants not wrth it !
i'm not gonna steal from them, i'ma ask my mom first when i'm already in the hardware.

getting a job here is hard, getting good weed here is hard. that is why i'm making the best out this grow. but growing here is very easy.
 

Justin00

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alright! many thanks to you sir oldleave53

i am really excited for tomorrow, i'ma go to a good hardware shop tomorrow, i just hope that my mom would not get mad at me for swiping card for CFL's. (desperate measures, no money even a cent in my wallet).

how about if buy 2 26watts CFL's tomorrow to start of and ill just add the T5 8watt tricolor lamp and the GES led lamp.

oh and one thing, how do i ask the salesman on how will i buy blue bulb thingy (i dont know what do you call that but i read that there is a blue bulb thingy for vegging).
some terms you can use to get to the right bulbs are 6500k color temp, and daylight bulbs. the 2300k ones work better for flowering (tho i would not reccomend flowering under cfls, i have but you need ALOT if want reasonable product and yeild)
 

icebox7420

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some terms you can use to get to the right bulbs are 6500k color temp, and daylight bulbs. the 2300k ones work better for flowering (tho i would not reccomend flowering under cfls, i have but you need ALOT if want reasonable product and yeild)
ok so ill just tell them daylight bulbs and how many for an approx. 1 1/2 by 1 1/2 by 4 feet rectangular space of cabinet? i have a small fan.

i have 2 plants to take really good care.
 

Brandawg92

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Flourescents are the way to go. The best are 6500K and 2700K you have to use a little more wattage but you can give them at least twice as much light than hids. This is because lumens are measured at 12" and quadruples at 6" they can be 3" away!! And remember, less light=taller, more light=bushier
 
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