Need Help ASAP

Hey, i know something is up here, its been a lil cold at night in NY, temps about 40- 50f. Im thinking the problem is nut def. its been raining for two days. How can i feed it asap??? Remember its been raining, and i dont want to over water....look at the pics.


ps...i have MG potting mix and MG all purpose feed....and ive feed them once and it was a small dose,
 

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GOD HERE

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Hey, i know something is up here, its been a lil cold at night in NY, temps about 40- 50f. Im thinking the problem is nut def. its been raining for two days. How can i feed it asap??? Remember its been raining, and i dont want to over water....look at the pics.


ps...i have MG potting mix and MG all purpose feed....and ive feed them once and it was a small dose,
If you don't want problems, don't use miracle gro. It's not meant for cannabis.

As for the two or three yellow leaves... Looks like a nitrogen deficiency. Feed it some Foxfarm grow big or at least something that's not some shitty MG stick.
 
Ive only used the feed once and it was lees than 1/4tbsp with a gallon of water, i feed both plants with that one gallon, i want to feed asap but what do i do with the rain?? Wait till it needs water again???
 

GOD HERE

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Uh yeah. If it's wet, don't water it. A quarter tablespoon is still a lot, and its still MG. If I were you I would stop making these threads when you've already been told what the problem is. Avoid MG soil in the future, don't feed with MG, you have a nitrogen deficiency, let your plant dry out before you water, and get some nutrients that are formulated with cannabis in mind.
 

Lemon king

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Ive only used the feed once and it was lees than 1/4tbsp with a gallon of water, i feed both plants with that one gallon, i want to feed asap but what do i do with the rain?? Wait till it needs water again???
if you have the right drainage it is impossible to over water (i mean harder!) .... plus what would you do if it rains again today??? and again tomorrow?? (not sure what nyc weather is sayin!)

can you not dig some holes in the grass there sat on, place some very very low nute potting soil or soiless mix in the hole with rocks/ perlite/ clay balls and see how they go from there??

or just straight into the dirt , anything is better then MG imo!!
 

Lemon king

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You already answered the $1000 question...
Miracle grow TABLETS are NOT for cannabis!
They WILL overfeed, burn and kill your plant.
Get them OUT of the soil if they haven't dissolved yet--
then slowly pour a couple of gallons of room temperature water thru the soil to leach it out (called flushing)
In a couple days- replant her into a larger pot with some organic soil....even Miracle-grow All Organic is decent.
Then you need to find something from the list below to feed her properly-- I am assuming you used what you did due to limited availability-- so I've limited the list to things you can get at Lowes/Home Depot/walmart/ Garden Centers etc... ;) Good Luck Hun!

these are the charts I have available... and after- is help for those of you who- due to resourses- must use Miracle grow (or schultz/Peters) Or Fish Ferts.

REMEMBER! These Are GUIDELINES! You need to use a meter (ph and ec/ppm) so that whatever the effect YOUR water has on the nutes is apparent, and you can adjust the amounts you use to Your system & water!!!


This Lists the BASICS needed to use most readily available Brands (and a few of the extras-- but there ARE more!) and both a weekly schedual (dirt & hydro IF you change the water weekly) and Phasic feeding for bubblers.
Phasic shedules can be followed for soil-- but do not work as well!

ALL MEASURES ARE PER U.S. GALLON / 3.785 LITERS...
Hope this helps!!!

NOTE ABOUT FLUSHING!!!
If growing in Soil, you usually Start flushing (running clear water thru the soil to rince out the un-used nutes) 2 weeks prior to harvest. This is nessisary to force the plant to use it's stored nutes & protiens, that otherwise result in harsh or grassy product.
But flushing also OFTEN results in losing yield; since you will reduce the available nutrients to the plant during the last 2 weeks of growth when the plants usually put on the most weight.
Simply STOP Nuting at whatever week you are at when time to flush.
IF you use the Ememrgency flush method, follow the entire schedule until the plants are ready to harvest.

Fish Fertilizer
This is for the use of Alaska brand Fish Fertilizer, and Alaska Kelp Fertilizer-- But other brands of Fish Emulsion and Organic nutrient that is JUST P & K with NO "N" value will work also.

Start The FIsh Ferts at 1/2 recomended rate when the plants have 3 sets of true leaves... after week 2 of veg, go to 3/4 stregnth...
When ready for 12/12-- you need to get some Alaska Kelp fert* (-- it is just P-K... add this to your 3/4 stregnth Fish Ferts at 1/4 stregnth... and use this blend thru the bloom period...
IF she seems to need more-- feed more often instead of increasing the amounts... with this fert , that seems to work better.

You will probably need additional micronutes-- so I would call around, or go online for EarthJuice Microblast... use at 1/3 stregnth every week.. as the Fish ferts arent complete with all the micro's needed.


*or another No Nitrogen Organic



ESPOMA NUTES :

Espoma is a brand of dry, granual organics used mostly in outdoor in-ground growing, but CAN be used at a lesser rate to enrich the soil of container plants.

It is marketed as Plant-tone, Veg-Tone, Holly-Tone, Rose-tone and Flower-tone.

You will want to get Veg-tone and Flower-tone... If flower-tone is not available, use Just the veg-tone.

For in-ground,prep your planting site, adding 1/4 cup of the Veg-tone to the hole you dig for the plants (at least 18 inches wide and 12 inches deep- the soil fluffed and back In the hole when you add the Espoma)
... or in containers, use 2 tablespoons in 5 galons of soil.
When the Plants Begin to bloom, use the Flower-tone as a top dressing according tot he bags directions, and gently rub into the soil around the plants so i doesn't wash away in the rain.

You MAY use the Fish-Fert Schedule along with the Espoma, but reduce the feedings to every other week.



FOR MIRACLE GROW NUTES :


If you really MUST use Miracle Grow Nutes or Soil cuz there isn't anything else available (cost can't be a reason, MG is about the same price as some organics !)

THEN USE THIS GUIDE PLEASE!!!

(enough for 2-3 plants .. just use more jugs for more plants!)
Get regular miracle grow (Not tomato or Rose food or azalea formula!)
AND Blossom Booster (or Schultz Professional Bloom food)
get 2- 1 gallon jugs of spring water from the store (about $1 each)
and an empty jug. Mark them (A) (B) & (C) --- (B) is the empty jug!

in the 1st jug (A) mix the MG at 1/4 the recomended rate for indoor plants.

In the 2nd jug (C), mix at 1/2 stregnth for indoor plants.

pour 1/2 of both into the empty jug (B)

Now-- when your plants get their 3rd set of leaves, feed once every 10 days. Start with (A) for the 1st 2 feed... then (B).. and end-up with (C) the week before you go 12/12.

FLUSH YOUR PLANTS WITH 5 GALLONS OF CLEAR WATER BEFOR GOING 12/12!

MG builds up-- and will lock-up as you add the stronger bloom nutes!
as the final part of the flush-- pour in a couple pints of your new bloom nutes (see below)


Do the same with your bloom nutes, Mix ahead in larger amounts... BUT--mix Jug (A) at 1/2 rate, Jug (C) at full stregnth-- and (B) the 2 mixed.

Start with (A) the 1st day of 12/12, then again in 10 days,
then switch to (B). Do not switch to (C) until the week before you flush for harvest!
when the trichomes just start turning cloudy, give em their last dose. In 10 days, check the trichs again.. if not all cloudy, you can feed again-- But go back to (B)

MAKE SURE TO FLUSH WELL AND WAIT THE FULL 2 WEEKS TO HARVEST!

You need to flush all the Nitrogen and magnesium out of the plants-- so Flush them well, put back in the bloom room the full 2 weeks till harvest, water as needed .. but absolutely no nutes or foliar sprays!

IF you foliar fed during the grow-- be sure to use a sprayer of water to gently shower it off the plants! (also gets rid of dead bugs & dust stuck to the buds!)

USING MG SOIL IS NEVER RECOMENDED!!
it has TIME RELEASED nutes-- so flushing is impossible... and you do not know how much nutes are being released or used by the plants.
If yYou Used MG soil, do NOT nute at all during veg... and use only additional P-K and suppliments without "N" during bloom...
And pre-harvest flushing can NOT be done on the normal 2 week schedule because of the time released nutes-- you must emergency flush when the trichs are how ya want em...



Cut the plant off at soil level. Place plant in a bucket with enough PLAIN tapwater to cover the base, but not touch lower limbs or vegetation....

Add a bubbler to the bucket to help "fool" the plant into thinking it is still alive (this only works up to 4 days before they wilt!)
Tthe plant will now use the nutrients stored in it's system . Leave under the lights at least 2 days-- up to 4 (3 is the usual amount)
IF you are one who puts their plants in the dark the last 3 days, give em at least 24 hours under lights before ya do... the photosynthesis will help the plant flush out unused nitrogen.


When using MG Fertilizer (as well as Schultz or Peter's ) Watch for:
Clawing
brown dry spots
crinckling leaves
pale new growth
Yellowing

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great info mate worth a read!
 
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