natural CYCLORGANIC Fertilizer.USSR Space Technology

Stickystickyganja

Stickystickyganja

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Has anyone ever used this product before, apparently its fairly new. I went into my local shop and seen this stuff, and the gentleman who helped me swore that this stuff was a miracle product. I watched a couple videos on youtube that blew my mind, the results from this product was amazing. And the story behind the company is pretty cool. The idea came from a Russian space project called "trip to mars" that came to a end, therefor some of the details of the project became available to specific scientific communities, and this is where the inventor seen the spacecrafts "total recycling process" that would be used in the spacecrafts ecosystem for the 3 year trip to mars and back. There are videos on youtube posted by milinator, the company that make the stuff, ya gotta check this stuff out. I grabbed a 400g bag for $44 to try out on my garden at home, the stuff can get pretty expensive but from what ive seen it will be worth it. So again after my ramble...lol, has anyone used this stuff
 
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Thank PotPimp for posting the video, Im not to tech savy lol. The one thing I wish I knew from the video is what company were they competing with. I am not even kidding, last night I blended some into the top of the soil on my Yellow beans, tomatoes, corn, asian red peppers, green peppers and onion patch and in less the 24 hours I am seeing results, and I havnt even gave it the tea yet. I cannot wait to use this stuff on MJ.
 
potpimp

potpimp

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According to their website they have a patent on it, so no competition at all. I saw the results of the comparison and I can't wait to use it.
 
cannaculturalist

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I checked this out and am interested. Nothing more novel than some guy based in Canada getting all excited over crazy Russian tech. But I have a few concerns.

The product itself looks great, and I'd be keen to use it. But don't get quite how it is different to standard compost, EWC as a comparison, or you can equally make a small scale fly larvae compost bin (like a worm farm or 5 gal bucket) to achieve a similar output. The benefit I can see with this tech, is the pupa can be used as a protein source for stock feed - groups like in SA, AgriProtein (found on YouTube also).

The other concern is the focus on making money from this product. While I don't to deny this guy in making some cash, his focus at the start of the video and the end is only about making money. Which doesn't do much for me in promoting a product like this, which should already have enough selling points to focus on.

I'd like to see some more recent work from them, and some more literature, as they have very little on their website. But if it works, then it works. Keep us posted on your results - I'd try it myself if it were available. Sounds the goods
 
Stickystickyganja

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Thanks for your response Cannaculturalist. You have some good points, and I would also like to see more to read about this product somewhere. Im guessing since the company is local and is pretty new it cant afford marketing yet, so not many people know about. For now im just using it on my garden, and I have herd it could take up to a week and a half to really kick in so i will def let you all know how it goes.
 
cannaculturalist

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I think it's important to be skeptical of any product, particularly those with 'sustainable' attributes, as sometimes it's just pure green washing. This though doesn't seem like that at all, in fact, aside form the patented method, it's fairly low tech. As I said, you can do a similar thing yourself already if you wanted. But the move to industrial application is exciting - so hopefully they get some backing and can smarten up their image a little. While I don't care for the glitz of marketing, currently it doesn't do well to be clear about their product (understandable for a still emerging commercial/retail product).

If I get a chance I'll plunge into the scientific papers and see if anything comes up. While I accept their existing results - they are far from telling of what exactly is going on. I'd like a comparison of a control, their product and a 'standard' organic fertilised plant. That would be a good starting point for grabbing more of my interest. Though anything which takes advantage of natural processes to cycle nutrients is good by me - given this product yields two products, it may be a better industrial method in some places compared with existing composting techniques. It's not a one size fits all, zero sum, take it or leave it, mutually exclusive type situation - anything which provides solutions to problems in a feasible and practical way will compliment what is already being done. I just wanna see more of it!
 
Stickystickyganja

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cannaculturalist said:
I think it's important to be skeptical of any product, particularly those with 'sustainable' attributes, as sometimes it's just pure green washing. This though doesn't seem like that at all, in fact, aside form the patented method, it's fairly low tech. As I said, you can do a similar thing yourself already if you wanted. But the move to industrial application is exciting - so hopefully they get some backing and can smarten up their image a little. While I don't care for the glitz of marketing, currently it doesn't do well to be clear about their product (understandable for a still emerging commercial/retail product).

If I get a chance I'll plunge into the scientific papers and see if anything comes up. While I accept their existing results - they are far from telling of what exactly is going on. I'd like a comparison of a control, their product and a 'standard' organic fertilised plant. That would be a good starting point for grabbing more of my interest. Though anything which takes advantage of natural processes to cycle nutrients is good by me - given this product yields two products, it may be a better industrial method in some places compared with existing composting techniques. It's not a one size fits all, zero sum, take it or leave it, mutually exclusive type situation - anything which provides solutions to problems in a feasible and practical way will compliment what is already being done. I just wanna see more of it!
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Thanks for your post. I do agree with alot of what you are saying.
I have searched for info about this product and very minimal info was found. The only reason why I decided to use this stuff is because the guy in my local shop was so pushy on this stuff. he was like seriousily buy the $9 bag and just test it on your veggies and tell me what you think. Otherwise to be honest I would not have grabbed it because I never herd of it and it just comes in a silver sealed bag. I do believe though when they get their image brushed up, they might have something going for them. I mixed it in my soil and made a tea with it for my MJ plants but have not seen the results yet because they are far away(this weekend I will see them). But as for veggies this stuff is amazing. I have never seen my veggies look as healthy as they do now. If you ever do come across new info about Cyclorganic feel free to share it on this page. And I dont care if its info knocking on this product. Thanks in advance
 
AirAnt

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The problem is the name, just doesn't capture the imagination the way something like 'spacepoop' would.

I bet if it had a catchy name like that they'd already be selling it in drive-thru's by now.
 
cannaculturalist

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I'd give it a go if it was available here. In fact, I am likely to start up my own black saw fly larvae composting system in the coming months. From my reading of the soil food web, and relevant soil microbiology; this product will be enhancing this. Perhaps more so than directly fertilizing - as the NPK ratios probably aren't that high (do they provide an analysis?). I'd be more inclined to think that the product increases microbiology in the soil, which makes existing nutrients more available. At $9 a bag, how big is the bag and what do they say is the application rate?, anyhow at $9 a bag if say 25-50L isn't a bad price. Making tea is a good idea too. I'm a big fan of that for similar purpose.
 
Stickystickyganja

Stickystickyganja

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cannaculturalist said:
I'd give it a go if it was available here. In fact, I am likely to start up my own black saw fly larvae composting system in the coming months. From my reading of the soil food web, and relevant soil microbiology; this product will be enhancing this. Perhaps more so than directly fertilizing - as the NPK ratios probably aren't that high (do they provide an analysis?). I'd be more inclined to think that the product increases microbiology in the soil, which makes existing nutrients more available. At $9 a bag, how big is the bag and what do they say is the application rate?, anyhow at $9 a bag if say 25-50L isn't a bad price. Making tea is a good idea too. I'm a big fan of that for similar purpose.
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So I found the piece of paper that came with cyclorganic. The $9 bag is only 50 grams but you use small amounts of this stuff. I grabbed the 400gram bag for $44. the NPK is 5-3-2, so wormcastings is a must. There is instructions for the use of it in a tea, in already potted plants, for sick plants for garden and to be mixed in the soil. For the tea it says to use 20 grams every 2 liters of water. I only go with half. If I had a scanner I would post this pamphlet for you to see.
 
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Oh right, I forgot you'd already mentioned price and the tea bit. It's a very expensive product really. Even high quality fulvic acid wouldn't be anywhere near the cost, and has similar properties (bio-stimulants etc). Though it does have a reasonable NPK profile - but at dilution, would be negligible. It's really hard to pass judgement without more information though, so good luck with testing it out. Biostimulants have a range of effects and is a broad description of inputs, and comparing them can be difficult as they aren't really alike for the most part. And certain ones will work better for certain applications - so this very well could have a place.
 
Stickystickyganja

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cannaculturalist said:
Oh right, I forgot you'd already mentioned price and the tea bit. It's a very expensive product really. Even high quality fulvic acid wouldn't be anywhere near the cost, and has similar properties (bio-stimulants etc). Though it does have a reasonable NPK profile - but at dilution, would be negligible. It's really hard to pass judgement without more information though, so good luck with testing it out. Biostimulants have a range of effects and is a broad description of inputs, and comparing them can be difficult as they aren't really alike for the most part. And certain ones will work better for certain applications - so this very well could have a place.
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Hey hows it going. So I just transplanted my babies into my wormcastings/promix/cyclorganic mix about 3 weeks ago. when I transplanted them the tallest was 8-9 inchs tall. I am really surprised by the results. here is some pics after 2 weeks of growth in the mix( with a tea feeding)
 

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She's looking good mate, keep us posted on progress
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So here is an update! I went up this weekend up to check on my babies and they are just beginning to flower. I am really impressed with the cyclorganic ferts ive used this time around. I was afraid I was too late popping them in the ground, they have been in for about a month and a week and they are already up to my armpits. Here are some pics, hope you all like.IMG_20140726_083235.jpg IMG_20140726_083235.jpgIMG_20140726_083809.jpg IMG_20140726_084001.jpg IMG_20140726_083300.jpg
 
jackson233

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Nice looking outdoor Ontario plant, update?

I am currently growing 2 plants, one an auto, the other a Lemon Kush, in an organic soil mix with this stuff mixed in as my fertilizer. Beautiful results so far just watering with tap water and nothing else, although I may have used a tad too much as especially the auto is showing signs of N toxicity.

I will post photos later today and hope OP will provide an update on his grow.
 
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