NASA predicts irreversible collapse of civilization

BigNBushy said:

For once something we agree on.

Every dime we spend in NASA has historically had a very good return in terms of useful technology for everyday life. I'm not so sure about NASA getting into this type of study. But in general, NASA has always been a great place to spend money.

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NASA? Send money? Oh you mean like a voluntary contribution right?

Rob Roy said:

I live off the grid and love it. Cheers.

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That's our dream .... however buying raw land on credit is a MF'er .... Banks want perfect credit scores

JohnnySocko said:

That's our dream .... however buying raw land on credit is a MF'er .... Banks want perfect credit scores

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Consider forming a small group for the purchase of a large tract and then subdividing the land. There may be some synergy there. Also, there are people that will owner finance. Good luck.

Rob Roy said:

It's a hobbit hole dammit!

You might enjoy adding to your end of the world misery by reading this book - The Long Emergency - by James H. Kunstler. He gets into end of oil stuff and writes pretty entertaining whether you agree with the ideas or not.

I live off the grid and love it. Cheers.

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Just cos your grandparents won't let you get a phone in your bedroom doesn't mean you're "off the grid".

Its also ironic you'd post that you're "off the grid"...on the Internet.

I guess common sense isn't that common.

Kinda what I was thinking

canndo said:

Kinda what I was thinking

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Unless "off the grid" is a euphemism for "I don't like people in real life and so stay in my room" then I'm stumped as to what he means.

Harrekin said:

Just cos your grandparents won't let you get a phone in your bedroom doesn't mean you're "off the grid".

Its also ironic you'd post that you're "off the grid"...on the Internet.

I guess common sense isn't that common.

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I'm sorry. I'll clarify. I do not purchase electricity from the wire. I make it.

Common sense in the sense that what is commonly believed is commonly wrong. Are you subbing for Cheezy, haven't seen his vitriol for a while.

canndo said:

Kinda what I was thinking

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Exhibit A.

Harrekin said:

Unless "off the grid" is a euphemism for "I don't like people in real life and so stay in my room" then I'm stumped as to what he means.

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I don't like some people that's for sure. The kind that like to run others lives for them are particularly troubling to me.

You're stumped, because you're a Leprechaun and you wish you were taller and living inside that cereal box has skewed your perspective.

Rob Roy said:

I don't like some people that's for sure. The kind that like to run others lives for them are particularly troubling to me.

You're stumped, because you're a Leprechaun and you wish you were taller and living inside that cereal box has skewed your perspective.

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Lol, don't rage too hard, you'll wake Grandma up from her nap.

Rolfcopters.

Rob Roy said:

I'm sorry. I'll clarify. I do not purchase electricity from the wire. I make it.

Common sense in the sense that what is commonly believed is commonly wrong. Are you subbing for Cheezy, haven't seen his vitriol for a while.

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So, pretty much you are priding yourself on your personal production of electricity. Nice, but the more recent understanding of "living off the grid" is no communication, no water no sewer, no foods purchased from conventional stores. Make your own fuel do you?

Harrekin said:

Lol, don't rage too hard, you'll wake Grandma up from her nap.

Rolfcopters.

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She's magically delicious!

canndo said:

So, pretty much you are priding yourself on your personal production of electricity. Nice, but the more recent understanding of "living off the grid" is no communication, no water no sewer, no foods purchased from conventional stores. Make your own fuel do you?

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If fapping off in his room in Grandmas house produced power, he wouldn't need any power hook up.

Sadly, he's just a bullshitter.

Probably doesn't even really lift.

Yes, let's make fun of Rob Roy because he is an independent thinker. We can't have anyone coming up with their own ideas about things.

canndo said:

So, pretty much you are priding yourself on your personal production of electricity. Nice, but the more recent understanding of "living off the grid" is no communication, no water no sewer, no foods purchased from conventional stores. Make your own fuel do you?

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Sewers are smelly pits and wasteful. You might consider reading a book by Joe Jenkins "Humanure" it's good for your garden.

I have lots of fur to stay warm, but I also have lots of trees for the wood stove. Working on a better design though, considering a "rocket mass heater".

Pride is not the motivator, but I will admit to a sense of peace and satisfaction. As we speak my better half is planning this years garden. Peace.

BigNBushy said:

Yes, let's make fun of Rob Roy because he is an independent thinker. We can't have anyone coming up with their own ideas about things.

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He can have his ideas all he wants, but him actually claiming he's anything other than some kid living with his grandma is just dishonest.

Rob Roy said:

Sewers are smelly pits and wasteful. You might consider reading a book by Joe Jenkins "Humanure" it's good for your garden.

I have lots of fur to stay warm, but I also have lots of trees for the wood stove. Working on a better design though, considering a "rocket mass heater".

Pride is not the motivator, but I will admit to a sense of peace and satisfaction. As we speak my better half is planning this years garden. Peace.

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So you dont make your own fuel? Engaged in a permaculture project? you didn't mention water meat milk and eggs.

Harrekin said:

He can have his ideas all he wants, but him actually claiming he's anything other than some kid living with his grandma is just dishonest.

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I make it a point to believe people at their word unless they give me real reason not to. Maybe because I can't find a reason to lie to people I don't know. I figure others usually tell the truth on these sites. Maybe I'm wrong in doing so, but I will never really know if they are telling the truth or not, so I figure they are.

BigNBushy said:

Yes, let's make fun of Rob Roy because he is an independent thinker. We can't have anyone coming up with their own ideas about things.

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He may well be an independent thinker, but he posts only a single thought here, over and over again. while that thought may further some conversations, it can grow a bit boring at times. "why can't government leave everyone alone" is a single note.

canndo said:

So you dont make your own fuel? Engaged in a permaculture project? you didn't mention water meat milk and eggs.

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Fuel? Heating fuel, yes, in a sense anyway, wood is plentiful. Gasoline? Nope, still a slave to the pump. Although an older friend that passed away was showing me how to make a wood gasifier. It's a great idea, but I've not gotten beyond the theory part yet. Other friends make bio diesel, so that's a potential option too.

Permaculture? Some work needed there, but the gardens are getting bigger. Hugelcultur...(sic) in the works.

Got a kickass compost setup, worm farm and lots of bunny poop. Chickens my friend, chickens. Friends have a pig farm, we barter frequently. Can you say venison? Can you say arrows? I know you can.

Water is not a problem at my homestead.