Mysterious heavy twisted new growth..

juansensor

Active Member
I didn’t know about the high availability of phos at lower ph, thank you!
I did notice that the leaf tips of the older leave were pointing down which seems to be N toxicity. It could validate the over fert theory
 

GreezzyGuy

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I don’t have a tds meter unfortunately. I don’t really need with organic amendments.

actually I did buy one with the ph meter but I arrived damaged.
How can I check ppm of P only ? All the other dissolved salts in the water will false the reading
If you know how much of a nutrient is in the mix,and you know how much of that you mixed with water then you can figure the ppm of any element.
 

GreezzyGuy

Active Member
Add more nitro or
lower the phos after converting its not to bad
.more potash wouldn't hurt the rest looks in range any info on trace nutes?

The phos is good but high enough that if iron and zinc are in limited supply, could be causing the issue
Really hard to tell in picture need to see the back side of the leaves held up to the light.
 

GreezzyGuy

Active Member
It’s not mixed with water. It’s Slow Release dry amendment.
Then every watering what ever is water soluble is available, so either adding amendments to bring everything in ratio.
Or raise the pH to hender phos.at the cost of calcium and trace nutes.
 

juansensor

Active Member
True there is no infos about the trace elements! I’ve been asking myself if I should add some azomite at the beginning but I decided to rely on the manufacturer instruction and keep it simple
 

juansensor

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Then every watering what ever is water soluble is available, so either adding amendments to bring everything in ratio.
Or raise the pH to hender phos.at the cost of calcium and trace nutes.
what do you think about adding dolomite to raise the ph + adding ca at the same time ?
My dolomite is 70% CaCO3 and 20% MgCO3
 

Kushash

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True there is no infos about the trace elements! I’ve been asking myself if I should add some azomite at the beginning but I decided to rely on the manufacturer instruction and keep it simple
Keep it simple. GreezzyGuy is not someone to take soil growing advice from. He seems smart in some way yet gives terrible advice for soil especially related to PH in the week he's been a member.
 

GreezzyGuy

Active Member
According to the you nute label
if you are not running them to wet or to dry I wouldn't add cal or mag in the mix just yet.

I would find some calcium nitrate and make a diluted mix and mist them .
That will bring your nitro and cal up and won't hurt them .
 

GreezzyGuy

Active Member
Or what he said. My soil plants look no different then my plants in strait perlite.
Medium is just support it's cation exchange capacity, and it pH buffering is all that's different. If using water soluble nutes


Live dirt is another animal all together
Tons of organic matter for the microbes. Higher pH is ideal.
 

juansensor

Active Member
I will try a slurry test tonight.
it’s possible as I put enough bio grow for 8 weeks and added bio bloom at week 5 already. I will try less for the next grow
 

bk78

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Or what he said. My soil plants look no different then my plants in strait perlite.
Medium is just support it's cation exchange capacity, and it pH buffering is all that's different. If using water soluble nutes


Live dirt is another animal all together
Tons of organic matter for the microbes. Higher pH is ideal.
You have yet to post your grow
 
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