Mycorrhizae with Cannibis

lyrial

lyrial

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after some biology classes, and reading on the internet i have decided to grow cannabis this season using mycorrhizae with my plants. my only worry is that based on the symbiotic relationship between plants and mycorrhizal fungi, wouldn't potency be at risk because thc is a carbohydrate?
just hoping for some clarification.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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lyrial said:
after some biology classes, and reading on the internet i have decided to grow cannabis this season using mycorrhizae with my plants. my only worry is that based on the symbiotic relationship between plants and mycorrhizal fungi, wouldn't potency be at risk because thc is a carbohydrate?
just hoping for some clarification.
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THC isn't a carbohydrate.
 
Bonkleesha

Bonkleesha

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my limited understanding is that it takes about 5 years in a rhododendron bed to take effect if tilling every other year. maybe a little shorter if untilled, depending on the % porosity of your soil or media. basically ive learned in college that this is bottled bullshit, but im no master, by any means.

if a teaspoon of soil contains 2 million microbes, about 1.4 million are fungi. however most of em are dead.

i was just reading that the other week. kindle for android for the win on the bus.
 
XRagnorX

XRagnorX

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Mychorrhizea should be concidered experimental at this point IMHO. In theory they are an excellent allie to the rooting system and nutrient uptake of the plant however I have seen some evidence that occasionally a less desirable strain will become dominant and set up shop in the soil matrix. Large voids and cavities filled with fungus populating at the root zone seems to have ill effects on plant growth. I have not begun to study this I only know that in some cases I have had several plants all growing in the same mix of soil, one plant will look less healthy that the rest upon transplanting it becomes clear that an undesirable colony has propigated the root zone. Why when all buckets are drained the same and have the same soil mix and mycrobe innoculatioin one breaks bad on you I do not yet know.
Therefor I say when it works right it is a boon when the colony turns nasty however it can cost you alot of time and worry. Unless you see the problem in the root ball it appears that the plant has some crazy uncorrectable mineral deficiency.
Obviously when you toss a packet of 26 known beneficial microbes into your guano stew some process of natural selection will occur. Who is to say that a mycrobe benifical to oak tree roots would rather dine on cannabis roots than feed them?
I do not know, it is simply a hypothesis.
 
Bonkleesha

Bonkleesha

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XRagnorX said:
Mychorrhizea should be concidered experimental at this point IMHO. In theory they are an excellent allie to the rooting system and nutrient uptake of the plant however I have seen some evidence that occasionally a less desirable strain will become dominant and set up shop in the soil matrix. Large voids and cavities filled with fungus populating at the root zone seems to have ill effects on plant growth. I have not begun to study this I only know that in some cases I have had several plants all growing in the same mix of soil, one plant will look less healthy that the rest upon transplanting it becomes clear that an undesirable colony has propigated the root zone. Why when all buckets are drained the same and have the same soil mix and mycrobe innoculatioin one breaks bad on you I do not yet know.
Therefor I say when it works right it is a boon when the colony turns nasty however it can cost you alot of time and worry. Unless you see the problem in the root ball it appears that the plant has some crazy uncorrectable mineral deficiency.
Obviously when you toss a packet of 26 known beneficial microbes into your guano stew some process of natural selection will occur. Who is to say that a mycrobe benifical to oak tree roots would rather dine on cannabis roots than feed them?
I do not know, it is simply a hypothesis.
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pac NW...love +reps for the I-5 corridor homies.
 
WolfZen

WolfZen

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They aren't experimental - they are natural. Plants have evolved with, and are dependent upon beneficial microbes in the wild (not only mycorrhizae). Plants even go through the trouble of producing food for beneficial microbes in symbiosis.

If you are growing 'organically' that means the plants derive their food from what beneficial microbes produce for them (and you are really feeding the microbes which in turn feed the plant). If you aren't growing organically, you can provide the required minerals (like NPK) in the form of salts which the plants can use directly and beneficial microbes aren't required.

But in either case, providing beneficial microbes will actually decrease the chances of undesired microbes causing problems. The beneficials will compete with other microbes and usually out-compete them since the plant actively helps the beneficials survive. Which is another win-win for the plant and grower.
 
Heisenberg

Heisenberg

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In my experience using mycos improves THC production by promoting overall health and vigor. I don't think there is any fear of decreasing potency.
 
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jpill

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I completely agree. I'm using soil amended with these two products. I also use a compost tea with molasses. Its working great for me !

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_SPM5928475507P?sid=IDx20101019x00001a&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=SPM5928475507
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=granular+plus+mycorrhizae&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&prmd=imvns&resnum=3&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1440&bih=838&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=6678708681261894136&sa=X&ei=JV03T5PRG8HRiALshvzCCg&ved=0CFcQ8gIwAA#ps-sellers

CSI Stickyicky said:
I use it in my soil, and for fertilizing, i use compost tea with molasses, for carbos, in it, and it works great.
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Ganjalee

Ganjalee

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20 days flowering using PRO-MIX 'BX' with MycorisePRO and looking Frosty! :)

here's what it says on the pdf " Plant growth and mycorrhizal colonization will vary according to plant species. Plant roots must be in contact with PRO-MIX with MycorisePRO for a minimum of 3-4 weeks to effectively colonize root systems. Best results are obtained from direct seeding or transplanting at the seedlings stage after the emergence of true leaves"
 
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jaxl

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ive been using great white shark and the only difference i could tell was that it would make the soil hard would have to poke holes in it to get the water past the top layer
 
Bonkleesha

Bonkleesha

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bottled hype. different from each batch to the next. they dont count it into the bottle with an electron microscope, so who knows how much of what youre getting. glad ur having results. ill save my $30.
 
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jpill

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Ganjalee said:
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20 days flowering using PRO-MIX 'BX' with MycorisePRO and looking Frosty! :)

here's what it says on the pdf " Plant growth and mycorrhizal colonization will vary according to plant species. Plant roots must be in contact with PRO-MIX with MycorisePRO for a minimum of 3-4 weeks to effectively colonize root systems. Best results are obtained from direct seeding or transplanting at the seedlings stage after the emergence of true leaves"
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Sweet ! I'm also using BX-ProMix with MycorisePRO. I will tell you this though, the amount of mycorrhizae in BX-pro is not very much at all. In fact i'm sure there's such a small amount that it wouldn't make a difference. BX-Pro just add's the smallest amount they can so their able to market it. Get some granular plus mycorrhizae . I listed it in the above post. It's great , has multiple different kinds of myco !
 
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dwight smokum

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jpill said:
Sweet ! I'm also using BX-ProMix with MycorisePRO. I will tell you this though, the amount of mycorrhizae in BX-pro is not very much at all. In fact i'm sure there's such a small amount that it wouldn't make a difference. BX-Pro just add's the smallest amount they can so their able to market it. Get some granular plus mycorrhizae . I listed it in the above post. It's great , has multiple different kinds of myco !
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jpill can you tell me exactly how you use the promix bx?.. i also use the botanicare grow and bloom. can you share with me about that also?.. i mean can you tell me what to get at the gro store for the roots and what brand of mycorza?
 
Trousers

Trousers

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I haven't seen any difference with coco, lucas 6/9.

In soil outside I have seen great results with all of my plants.
 
eDude

eDude

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XRagnorX said:
Obviously when you toss a packet of 26 known beneficial microbes into your guano stew some process of natural selection will occur. Who is to say that a mycrobe benifical to oak tree roots would rather dine on cannabis roots than feed them?
I do not know, it is simply a hypothesis.
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You're right but the baddies came from the guano or were int he soil. '

Things like Plant Success have been used for many many years by landscapers and arborist. I think the benefits take a long time to work but it's not 'bad'.
 
Trousers

Trousers

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My friend swears by Mycorrhizae. He uses it on all his outdoor plants and they are all doing really well.
Mycorrhizae has no interest in eating roots, that is not what they do.
 
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