My stupid town

I live in Oregon and we the people voted and passed the legal use of cannabis. BUT the small town in western Oregon that I live nearest to has decided that they (city council) do not want medical or recreational marijuana shops in our town. And this will mean no tax revenue for our town and we really need the revenue.
The voters have spoke, so how can it be that they can tell us that our votes didn't count? I emailed our mayor and let him know that the voters that put him in office can also take him out.
We have bars, tobacco shops and gambling in our town, all are addicting.....weed is not. I plan on going to the next city council meeting because they plan on hearing the peoples argument, I am going to ask the mayor "if your loved one had cancer and if there is a possibility of curing them with cannabis would yo deny them it?" If they decide at the end of the meeting that there will be no shops in our town I plan on shouting "RECALL ! "
vent and rant over.... for now.

I've been waiting for cannabis to be legal since 1972 when I began using it. Living in California is still a challenge to legally get ones herb if you don't grow it yourself. People go to dispensaries all the time only to find it has been shut down for one reason or other. The games that are being played out by law enforcement are slowly going away (I think). Had a sheriff come to my house on a report of growing - He was cool - had way too many plants and all he said was, "beautiful plants," and that I should grow into buckets instead of directly into the ground due to environmental concerns.

If you aren't growing - Get out there and voice your opinion! If you're growing - might be wise to tread lightly. Cops show up to dispensaries and shut them down sometimes siting reports that pcp is being made there. Also a big concern to the police are people making their own concentrates with butane which is burning down some houses. Police will also check out your grow to see if there are children who can access the area. Firearms can also start problems for you in growing.

This country is in the last stages of prohibition of cannabis. People against cannabis won't give up without a fight because they have a lot to loose (at least they believe so).

DG1959 said:

I live in Oregon and we the people voted and passed the legal use of cannabis. BUT the small town in western Oregon that I live nearest to has decided that they (city council) do not want medical or recreational marijuana shops in our town. And this will mean no tax revenue for our town and we really need the revenue.
The voters have spoke, so how can it be that they can tell us that our votes didn't count? I emailed our mayor and let him know that the voters that put him in office can also take him out.
We have bars, tobacco shops and gambling in our town, all are addicting.....weed is not. I plan on going to the next city council meeting because they plan on hearing the peoples argument, I am going to ask the mayor "if your loved one had cancer and if there is a possibility of curing them with cannabis would yo deny them it?" If they decide at the end of the meeting that there will be no shops in our town I plan on shouting "RECALL ! "
vent and rant over.... for now.

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First of all. I understand the frustration you feel. And it does seem stupid they allow all of these other potentially addictive things to exist and then outlaw MJ. BUT......

The one beautiful thing about American and Freedom are choices. There are communities in my area that still have areas where alcohol is prohibited. On the one hand it doesn't make sense. Since sometimes, just a few miles up the road in the next county over there is a liquor store or whatever. So? What kinda sense does that make?

But at the end of the day, I like that areas get to choose how they live and what they allow in their community. Think about it for a second. What if you didn't like to drink alcohol and perhaps you have had bad experiences with it? And the thought of others using alcohol around you makes you concerned? Wouldn't it be nice to be able to move to an area where it is not popular and allowed? To be around other people who feel the same about it as you? Common sense says that many like to use alcohol or weed or gamble and may relocate to an area where it is convenient for them. The bottom line is it's a choice. In your case I would think it might be time for you to consider relocating to an area where it is allowed and the majority of the community embraces it's use.

It's all about choices. And at least we have them. Whether it makes sense or not. It's all good man. Choices.

Will, not move...been right here on my farm since 1965... old. I do see your point... and a very clear and wise point.

Alaska is the doing the same stupid crap.The Mat-Su Borough is the 2nd largest population center in Alaska after Anchorage. It's where Alaska Thunderfuck was bred. Towns of Wasilla and Palmer - barred pot businesses IMMEDIATELY after it was legalized by us. Fuck 'em. And licenses to begin operating in 2016 in any legal capacity? $5,000.00.Now the question is do we allow outsiders in? Non-residents? Hell no! All these jerkoffs see is money. Then in Alaska there is no legal way to pay collected taxes in cash. Now the state is in a tizzy - how do we collect all the taxes these guys are collecting?

your vote for presidency doesn't count either, why does this surprise you.

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Alaska is the doing the same stupid crap.The Mat-Su Borough is the 2nd largest population center in Alaska after Anchorage. It's where Alaska Thunderfuck was bred. Towns of Wasilla and Palmer - barred pot businesses IMMEDIATELY after it was legalized by us. Fuck 'em. And licenses to begin operating in 2016 in any legal capacity? $5,000.00.Now the question is do we allow outsiders in? Non-residents? Hell no! All these jerkoffs see is money. Then in Alaska there is no legal way to pay collected taxes in cash. Now the state is in a tizzy - how do we collect all the taxes these guys are collecting?

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Hey hotrod, I lived in Palmer in 1978 to 1982... I bet that town has really changed... spent good times at a place called "plastic rock"

There's over 100,000 people living in the Mat-Su now. Palmer, Wasilla, Butte. Wasilla is being predictably dumbass about it. Anchorage is moving ahead. Eagle River is in the Anchorage municipality now with Anchorage cops patrolling there and all the way up to Birchwood. There's a lot of folks in AK now. I'm going between Healy and Cantwell next February to stay for good. Screw all the politics in these places.Still a lot of pinheads there.

DG1959 said:

I live in Oregon and we the people voted and passed the legal use of cannabis. BUT the small town in western Oregon that I live nearest to has decided that they (city council) do not want medical or recreational marijuana shops in our town. And this will mean no tax revenue for our town and we really need the revenue.
The voters have spoke, so how can it be that they can tell us that our votes didn't count? I emailed our mayor and let him know that the voters that put him in office can also take him out.
We have bars, tobacco shops and gambling in our town, all are addicting.....weed is not. I plan on going to the next city council meeting because they plan on hearing the peoples argument, I am going to ask the mayor "if your loved one had cancer and if there is a possibility of curing them with cannabis would yo deny them it?" If they decide at the end of the meeting that there will be no shops in our town I plan on shouting "RECALL ! "
vent and rant over.... for now.

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I think you are exactly right about trying to change the rules in your town. The Oregon measure specifically allows townships to disallow MJ sales but this can be reversed too. So, now its up to local politics. If you and others manage to get those backward council members replaced, it will be a wake up call to others that medical or recreation MJ use is no longer a matter to be used as a political wedge issue. So, good luck and you have my support.

No different then a dry county for Alcohol!

Keep calm and keep fighting the good fight.

It is exactly proper for local government to have the last say on cannabis in the community, but as you said, on an issue this major, the local government should, and if needed-must be forced to, rule as the local voters decide.

You should be demanding the allowance of cannabis shops (controlled for number and location of course) in the township, as per state law. But more importantly (warning, may backfire) you need to be pushing for a local VOTE on the subject. Its not a decision for 8 brainwashed gray hairs.... its a decision for he people.

Not one official in CO would say cannabis sales is a 'bad' idea... every fear they had, has been disproved.


Current petitions in MI are fighting to pass recreational cannabis in 2016, with final say going to local government, flat tax rate of 10% cash going to schools, roads, and a slice to local government. (See how we entice them? They get a hand directly in the pocket of every dispensary)

All else fails, growing still works, just can't have the convenience of shops nearby

Flagg420 , you made a great point in the sentence "8 BRAIN WASHED gray hairs" that sir is exactly what I think... the people of our great nation have been brain washed. It is so hard listening to antis with their "pot is bad!" rants but yet they go out get drunk on a man made product.
Looks like our town will get to vote on this in 2016.

What I hate the most is how its on the books, they documented the hearings. Cannabis is illegal, and renamed 'Marijuana' because they didn't like its social effects... They lied and said it was useless medically. They then prevented research to prove them wrong for decades....

Do you know how many lives were ended early, how much unnecessary pain was suffered by millions of people... because the U.S. Government lied, and then backed up their lies for decades....

Do you know how may medicines we might have today from cannabis if they had spent those decades doing medical research, instead of banning and blocking it?

They own the one field in the one college (Miss.) where they perform specifically chosen tests, to prevent results that would be negative to the idea that 'pot is bad.'


Meanwhile the FDA approves 30 new drugs, and then recall 22 of them for the negative effects, and our TVs are plastered with 2 things....

1. Commercials telling us to tell our Dr. what new fda approved drug to give us.... (What!?)
2. Commercials saying that medicine kills, and theres a class action lawsuit if you took it and want a cut of the settlement....

Its a broken system, and you town council actually believes the garbage from 'Reefer Madness'

My Dad has cancer and I take him to the cancer doctor about once a month. I am so sad when I am there because it is person after person going in and out of there... it saddens me because I know CBD could help so many of these people.
I believe our government is in bed with the big pharm companies, and until both of them can make billions of dollars from cannabis things will change very slowly.
The entire country has been brain washed into believing that this natural herb is evil even though the facts are right in front of their noses. I get in debates with anti weed friends and it amazes me how they won't even listen to the facts....again I believe this goes back to the propaganda that have been shoved down our throats since we were just kids.

DG1959 said:

My Dad has cancer and I take him to the cancer doctor about once a month. I am so sad when I am there because it is person after person going in and out of there... it saddens me because I know CBD could help so many of these people.
I believe our government is in bed with the big pharm companies, and until both of them can make billions of dollars from cannabis things will change very slowly.
The entire country has been brain washed into believing that this natural herb is evil even though the facts are right in front of their noses. I get in debates with anti weed friends and it amazes me how they won't even listen to the facts....again I believe this goes back to the propaganda that have been shoved down our throats since we were just kids.

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The death of the ability to debate and discuss without losing ones temper is a threat to our society.

The state needs to look at how Texas passed a state law prohibiting cities within Texas from establishing their own laws against fracking. I am not a lawyer but it seems if that law can stick through federal courts appeals that the state of Alaska can pass a similar regulation requiring legal businesses be issued permits as outlined within the law and allowed to operate a legal business. This is as ridiculous as a city full of fat asses passing laws against doughnut shops. First it ain't gonna stop the doughnut munchers. They are simply going to drive to the sticks for the fix. And it\\prohibition is the dumbest of methods to try to "control" the use or the spread of the use of any substance or food. Dumb fucks in government listening to their rich 1% owners who still want that illicit profit margin. Figure that out - if the rich want it it will happen regardless. And if they don't . . . . . . ..

I think you need to build your facility outside of city limits... by walking distance or less!