my outdoor grow in india (12 latitude)

nah i put the soil together with some potting mix, a lot of worm compost, some neem cake, coco peat, trace elements, bone meal, and about an eighth of the entire thing is sand for drainage. as for watering, i water when they need it. water logging isn't a problem because the soil is well aerated and the balcony is angled just a wee little bit so the water flows down towards the right side where there's a drain.

i was thinking more about drainage, so by subsoil i meant that the drainage was into the terrace subsoil
but you seem to have explained that pretty well, sounds good, how deep is the soil?
it looks like it has depleted the soil, and may not be getting quite enough nutrition from the feedings

i think it's about a foot tall, and 3' x 2'...thats if you subtract the space occupied by the bricks themselves...how much volume of water mixed with nutes would you think is necessary to be effective?

elchupacabra said:

i think it's about a foot tall, and 3' x 2'...thats if you subtract the space occupied by the bricks themselves...how much volume of water mixed with nutes would you think is necessary to be effective?

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that is the big question, an organic tea with some nitrogen in there should be safe, and hopefully helpful
organic teas are good because they aren't too concentrated and will not usually cause harm
however, it takes time to brew a tea, a week is typical

what should i use for the tea, and how much do you think i should make?

much depends on what's available, cow manure would be good
many teas use a small amount of molasses as a base, 1 tbsp per gallon of water is often used
molasses is great because it has a lot of micronutrients, and could correct any deficiencies if one of those is low
how much manure i can't say off the top of my head, i've used alfalfa and bone meal in my teas, they're good but bone meal takes time to break down in a tea(4 weeks at least)

edit - raw manure could be a bit more dicey, composted manure seems to be the preferred additive
i do see that you have earth worm casing, those can be used as a tea ingredient

thanks growone...

on another note, i got my mandala safari mix today, i think about a week after i ordered it, maybe a couple days less...the funny part is, according to the royal mail tracking system, it's still a few hundred kilometers away from my damn city, but whatever lol...got a freebie from g13, world of seeds' MAZAR x GREAT WHITE SHARK, we'll see if it even germinates, looks like a nice seed though. but man all of these mandala seeds seem fucking nice. and attitude has a nice deal going on atm, not the best, but if you buy from dinafem then it really goes in your favor, i think i'm gonna get some autos from there for the fuck of it...get some free auto cheese and white widow from dinafem as well as el aquimista, critical sensi and pakistan ryder. should be a nice little variety. xD

best of luck with the safari mix, mandala has some very interesting genetics, they should take very nicely to your climate

thanks man...the mazar x shark showed taproot in about ten hours, just put her in the dirt...we'll see about mandalas cause i'm germinating them like how the mandala site says, will find out in 2-4 days

what would you guys think abt growing some dinafem cheese?

plants looking much better after a somewhat poorly made organic tea...i used bone meal (probably didn't get shit outta that), couldn't get molasses (too stoned to scour the city) so i used a few spoons of brown sugar per litre, coffee grounds, and ground dried banana peels, along with a few powdered eggshells for good luck. along with the old indian method of adding a single fat ass dried red chili in there, it speeds up these 'breakdown' processes...milk curdles a lot faster with a red chili in there than without...same with all sorts of other indian shit...anyways, made 4 litres for the plant, and she's lookin up, a lot more green, leaves are looking healthier. mandalas are on the verge of breaking ground, can see the seed barely peeping out, same with the mazar x shark

ok, papayas are preflowering, out of the four plants, killed a male and found a female, can't tell yet on the other two, i'm guessing i'll know for sure within a week...that would mean that outdoors, indica strains in tropic regions have about 4-5 weeks of vegetative growth, with some variation depending on the specific origin of the strain...

sounds like a tea success, that must have been a hungry plant
coffee grounds are supposed to have nitrogen, the rest probably didn't hurt
and the bone meal should break down slowly in the soil, putting it in the tea should have sped up the process a little

First of all congrats elchupacabra!
It was an interesting 18 pages with pictures from elchupacabra.
This thread is very informative and probably one of its kind.
Back from SoCal after 6 years of medical mj.
Looked around a lot for good quality here in Bangalore with not much luck.
Like you rightly said, it is laced with all kinds of BS.
That crappy high leaves a heavy head and other side effects.
Then I decided to grow it myself.
Google got me to this thread.
This thread will be a thorough guide!

Along these 18 pages, learnt what is LST, effect of milk, effect of red pepper (chilly) and more.
Local legality discussions were hilarious!
So were the lion-tiger sightings & stray dogs around here!

mugambo said:

First of all congrats elchupacabra!
It was an interesting 18 pages with pictures from elchupacabra.
This thread is very informative and probably one of its kind.
Back from SoCal after 6 years of medical mj.
Looked around a lot for good quality here in Bangalore with not much luck.
Like you rightly said, it is laced with all kinds of BS.
That crappy high leaves a heavy head and other side effects.
Then I decided to grow it myself.
Google got me to this thread.
This thread will be a thorough guide!

Along these 18 pages, learnt what is LST, effect of milk, effect of red pepper (chilly) and more.
Local legality discussions were hilarious!
So were the lion-tiger sightings & stray dogs around here!

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thanks man...one thing this thread won't tell you, if you're gonna start now or in august, grow
a mainly sativa or sativa strain, indicas start flowering when they're fucking tiny, but we don't
have any issues of frost or anything really and you won't have to worry about shielding
it from rain either, the plant will still be vegging and it should be big enough to take the rain...
el nino seems to be fucking with our monsoon this year, rainfall is really really less....

growing in tropics discards a lot of the rules normal outdoor growers follow...no frost, doesn't get cold, fairly consistent sunlight...the rules just change close to the equator man haha

Thanks for the sativa tip for this time of the year!
Should've been pouring around this time but no rains in sight. Sad.
On the bright side, we're closer to the equator!

I'm assuming tiny pots will be okay to begin with.

Any specific soil or additives you'd recommend to start off?

mugambo said:

Thanks for the sativa tip for this time of the year!
Should've been pouring around this time but no rains in sight. Sad.
On the bright side, we're closer to the equator!

I'm assuming tiny pots will be okay to begin with.

Any specific soil or additives you'd recommend to start off?

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in blr, the only useful additives you'll get are worm compost (not castings), bone meal, neem cake, and a very very
nutrient rich biofarm potting mix (but it can't be used on it's own, it'll burn your plants up, and your pocket). alternative to
perlite = sand, cheaper and easier to get a hold of. can use red mud but use it sparingly, it'll make your soil really
clump if you use more than 10% of your mix, but it's filled with nutrition and beneficial bacteria. my mix is
roughly:

20% coco peat
25% worm compost
25% biofarm
15% sand
the other 15% is a combination of bone meal, neem cake, coffee grounds, and anything else organic and nutritious i can get my hands on
don't start with big pots when you're late in the season. start with small plastic cups for the seedlings, after you can see the roots getting a LITTLE
bit claustrophobic (usually 2-3 weeks depending on strain) plant in a 2-3 litre pot, and after that the next transplant depends purely on
your situation, how big you want the plant to be, etc

and here, friends, is the goddamn hermie. woulda become a nice little babe

awesome read dude, really interesting stuff. Ive got friends who've done this in Pakistan and Kashmir.