My Outdoor Garden-2010
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veggiegardener
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I'll be looking forward to pix!
veggiegardener
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You make a good point regarding separation of the potting mix in a slurry.
I use the Ace brand potting mix because they add little or no Perlite and sand.
Ace's consistency is course and very even. Perfect for my methods.
veggiegardener
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Well, in all honesty, I bought very large quantities of their products quite a while back.
I actually called their factory in Utah, and just happened to end up talking to the CEO.
I gave my CC info, and my order was filled.
In your shoes, I'd call them, as well.
I actually called their factory in Utah, and just happened to end up talking to the CEO.
I gave my CC info, and my order was filled.
In your shoes, I'd call them, as well.
veggiegardener
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Yeah, it's pricey, but I've found it to be an excellent product, with an eight year warranty.
I've had the greenhouses for five years. This is the beginning of the sixth season. I'm beginning to see cracks in the roof panels, but I'm guessing I won't have to reskin the roofs for another year or two. The walls are still perfect in appearance.
The greenhouses actually outproduce my outdoor bed. One greenhouse has yielded as much as 58 grams per square foot or over 600 grams per meter squared. The other, slightly less.
The outdoor "cage" does more like 40-45 grams.
I think the Solexx's light diffusion qualities make the difference.
veggiegardener
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Here's an update from today. The most obvious thing is, with this cool weather, not much is happening.
If we ever get some normal weather, things will explode, almost literally.
I think I'm getting the hang of editing in the new format. We'll see.
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These three plants are Trainwreck clones that I'm forcing to reveg. In a few weeks once they are growing vigorously, I intend to put them under 12/12. At that time, I'll choose two which I'll attempt to reverse sex from female to male, using Silver Thiosulfate.
This is a clone only strain that I want to save, in case of some disaster.
The finest medicinal day time smoke I've ever seen.
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My garden shed is large enough to handle most of my Cannabis related activities.
The paper bags contain mostly seeded buds.
The hanging buds are mature Trainwreck that will be ready to burn in a few days.
Trainwreck is one strain whose flavor is perfect without an extended cure.
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I think Cabbage plants are very graceful. A couple more weeks and they're done.
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This Durban x Chronic(aka Starburst) and a Celticberry are waiting to fill the Cabbages' space. I figure they'll need to go in the ground in about ten days. The positions in the greenhouse, on the East end are the best in my entire garden. Most plants overgrow the space and grow hard against the ceiling. I use a sort of ScrOG to keep them down.
I'll be putting the screens up in a few days.
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A simple cross of Bubbleberry and White Widow. Both strains are wonderful smoke.
If you enjoy the hassle of breeding, playing with great strains is exciting as hell.
Both strains grow large and vigorous. Once the weather warms up, this girl should do the same.
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Trainwreck is a weak producer. Why do people grow it commercially? Because it is addictive! Once a medical patient tries it, odds are he's going to feel deprived if his caregiver shows up with anything else.
These plants are in prime locations. I'll be tickled if I get 200 grams, each. These are my personal stash. My wife and son prefer the heavier sativa/indica hybrids.
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I lost the pure Aghani Kush(no male seeds) but thought a previous cross of Super Silver Haze and New York City Diesel might make a good father for a cross. I expect very large, very dense kholas from this girl.
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These are a strain called Magic Carpet Ride. I've maintained it for nearly a decade.
It originated with the Hillbilly Dreams Seed Co. in BC.
It's a pure "Afghani" but may be the only true "Afghanica" in my collection. Devastating in large quantities. Medicinally sedative with a hit or two, at a time.
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This is Chronix. She's descended from the named strain "Chronic". She gets enormous but doesn't produce large kholas. Instead she grows perfect half gram buds loosely along long branches. One bud equals one joint.
The father strain of my Starburst project, It donated size and flavor AND potency to the mix.
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One of the Trainwreck crosses from last year. A lot of people have tried to improve on Trainwreck. I doubt it will happen, but it is fun to try!
This one is Trainwreck x Super Silver Haze + New York City Diesel.
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This is Durban. We love this strain, but wanted to increase its size. Durban is a Donkey Dick sativa. The plant that produced this plant's seed was barely four feet tall but produced eight two foot long kholas.
Durban is the Mother strain in Starburst. The cross between Durban and Chronix proved to be one of those rare instances where the offspring is greater than the sum of her parents.
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Pineapple Thai. A clone from a friend. It is supposed to be incredible fast growing one it starts.
It came out of 18/6 so flowering was inevitable, going to a fourteen hour day.
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Two more Durban x Chronix. The one on the right was very slow to start and produced only a few female flowers before going into full veg.
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Sylvester, a nice old(13) cat.
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Fuzzy. An entertaining companion.
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The source of the hanging Trainwreck buds. I'm helping her reveg with a 65 watt CFL; barely visible on the right.
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This is a Bubbleberry X.
At least I think it is. It volunteered in January, along with a couple hundred siblings. I removed all but two, figuring if I got a girl, she'd be in a good spot.
She's already getting very large. I bathed her this morning, and later found this branch laying on the ground. I have pieces of string with two wire hooks I made specifically to deal with such issues. I hooked the branch to the main stem, pretty much where it was before splitting.
The plant's "skin" was intact, so it's all good!
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This is Trainwreck x Trainwreck + Cambodian, a new cross.
A friend gave me the TW x Cam seeds, which produced beautiful flavorful buds with good potency.
I figured crossing it with Trainwreck might be interesting. We'll see.
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One Rasta in the ground, and a surprise backup.
The plant on the left was much larger than that on the right before harvesting the seeded kholas. The plant structure between the two was radically different. The plant on the right never branched but produced a series of rock hard nugs along its stem. There was almost nothing to leave to veg.
Apparently it is enough. Placed in the tomatoes, it might do well.
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White Russian. Another clone that went into flower.
White Russian is just slow, although the smoke is World class.
It can't keep up with faster growing neighbors. She gets a corner to herself, this year.
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Lavender. Another clone. Recommended by my friend as wonderful finished product. It has willingly kicked into veg. Note the string and hooks, helping with LST.
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Random pix of various parts of the garden.
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If I'm outside Fuzzy and Sly aren't far away. I can usually look up and find at least one watching me
Sorry for the length of this post, but there have been a lot of things I wanted to post in some sort of coherent order.
Questions are always welcome!
If we ever get some normal weather, things will explode, almost literally.
I think I'm getting the hang of editing in the new format. We'll see.
View attachment 957024
These three plants are Trainwreck clones that I'm forcing to reveg. In a few weeks once they are growing vigorously, I intend to put them under 12/12. At that time, I'll choose two which I'll attempt to reverse sex from female to male, using Silver Thiosulfate.
This is a clone only strain that I want to save, in case of some disaster.
The finest medicinal day time smoke I've ever seen.
View attachment 957034
My garden shed is large enough to handle most of my Cannabis related activities.
The paper bags contain mostly seeded buds.
The hanging buds are mature Trainwreck that will be ready to burn in a few days.
Trainwreck is one strain whose flavor is perfect without an extended cure.
View attachment 957057View attachment 957058
I think Cabbage plants are very graceful. A couple more weeks and they're done.
View attachment 957059View attachment 957060
This Durban x Chronic(aka Starburst) and a Celticberry are waiting to fill the Cabbages' space. I figure they'll need to go in the ground in about ten days. The positions in the greenhouse, on the East end are the best in my entire garden. Most plants overgrow the space and grow hard against the ceiling. I use a sort of ScrOG to keep them down.
I'll be putting the screens up in a few days.
View attachment 957072
A simple cross of Bubbleberry and White Widow. Both strains are wonderful smoke.
If you enjoy the hassle of breeding, playing with great strains is exciting as hell.
Both strains grow large and vigorous. Once the weather warms up, this girl should do the same.
View attachment 957073View attachment 957074
Trainwreck is a weak producer. Why do people grow it commercially? Because it is addictive! Once a medical patient tries it, odds are he's going to feel deprived if his caregiver shows up with anything else.
These plants are in prime locations. I'll be tickled if I get 200 grams, each. These are my personal stash. My wife and son prefer the heavier sativa/indica hybrids.
View attachment 957088
I lost the pure Aghani Kush(no male seeds) but thought a previous cross of Super Silver Haze and New York City Diesel might make a good father for a cross. I expect very large, very dense kholas from this girl.
View attachment 957090View attachment 957091
These are a strain called Magic Carpet Ride. I've maintained it for nearly a decade.
It originated with the Hillbilly Dreams Seed Co. in BC.
It's a pure "Afghani" but may be the only true "Afghanica" in my collection. Devastating in large quantities. Medicinally sedative with a hit or two, at a time.
View attachment 957096
This is Chronix. She's descended from the named strain "Chronic". She gets enormous but doesn't produce large kholas. Instead she grows perfect half gram buds loosely along long branches. One bud equals one joint.
The father strain of my Starburst project, It donated size and flavor AND potency to the mix.
View attachment 957097
One of the Trainwreck crosses from last year. A lot of people have tried to improve on Trainwreck. I doubt it will happen, but it is fun to try!
This one is Trainwreck x Super Silver Haze + New York City Diesel.
View attachment 957110
This is Durban. We love this strain, but wanted to increase its size. Durban is a Donkey Dick sativa. The plant that produced this plant's seed was barely four feet tall but produced eight two foot long kholas.
Durban is the Mother strain in Starburst. The cross between Durban and Chronix proved to be one of those rare instances where the offspring is greater than the sum of her parents.
View attachment 957117
Pineapple Thai. A clone from a friend. It is supposed to be incredible fast growing one it starts.
It came out of 18/6 so flowering was inevitable, going to a fourteen hour day.
View attachment 957130View attachment 957131
Two more Durban x Chronix. The one on the right was very slow to start and produced only a few female flowers before going into full veg.
View attachment 957139
Sylvester, a nice old(13) cat.
View attachment 957142
Fuzzy. An entertaining companion.
View attachment 957146
The source of the hanging Trainwreck buds. I'm helping her reveg with a 65 watt CFL; barely visible on the right.
View attachment 957156View attachment 957160View attachment 957161
This is a Bubbleberry X.
At least I think it is. It volunteered in January, along with a couple hundred siblings. I removed all but two, figuring if I got a girl, she'd be in a good spot.
She's already getting very large. I bathed her this morning, and later found this branch laying on the ground. I have pieces of string with two wire hooks I made specifically to deal with such issues. I hooked the branch to the main stem, pretty much where it was before splitting.
The plant's "skin" was intact, so it's all good!
View attachment 957191
This is Trainwreck x Trainwreck + Cambodian, a new cross.
A friend gave me the TW x Cam seeds, which produced beautiful flavorful buds with good potency.
I figured crossing it with Trainwreck might be interesting. We'll see.
View attachment 957195View attachment 957196
One Rasta in the ground, and a surprise backup.
The plant on the left was much larger than that on the right before harvesting the seeded kholas. The plant structure between the two was radically different. The plant on the right never branched but produced a series of rock hard nugs along its stem. There was almost nothing to leave to veg.
Apparently it is enough. Placed in the tomatoes, it might do well.
View attachment 957204
White Russian. Another clone that went into flower.
White Russian is just slow, although the smoke is World class.
It can't keep up with faster growing neighbors. She gets a corner to herself, this year.
View attachment 957205
Lavender. Another clone. Recommended by my friend as wonderful finished product. It has willingly kicked into veg. Note the string and hooks, helping with LST.
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Random pix of various parts of the garden.
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If I'm outside Fuzzy and Sly aren't far away. I can usually look up and find at least one watching me
Sorry for the length of this post, but there have been a lot of things I wanted to post in some sort of coherent order.
Questions are always welcome!
wingman12
Active Member
Looking Good veggiegardner!! I'm doing a outdoor grow with some trainwreck as well. I"m on my second grow grow. This is my first try with the trainwreck you have any tips????. I'm going for about 10 outdoor with one mystery strain clone as well. Here is a link to my grow ill be watchin yours. Happy Growing!!!
https://www.rollitup.org/outdoor-growing/328063-northwest-outdoor-2010-2nd-grow.html
https://www.rollitup.org/outdoor-growing/328063-northwest-outdoor-2010-2nd-grow.html
ColoradoLove
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Looking good VG! I bet your yard is an awesome playground for those cats
roundplanet
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Hello, Umm Veggiegardener, Actually just found this, still trying to figure out how to get photos onto this site, I hope you check them out when I do I will let you know. Roundplanet, its alll round, blue and green.....
veggiegardener
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When you go to "Reply", there's a line of icons above the dialogue box.Hello, Umm Veggiegardener, Actually just found this, still trying to figure out how to get photos onto this site, I hope you check them out when I do I will let you know. Roundplanet, its alll round, blue and green.....
Run your cursor over them they display their function.
You want "DISPLAY IMAGE", sixth from the right. Click on it, and a small window will appear.
Click on "Select Files" and your stored pix should come up.
Select by double clicking, then upload files into the text, as desired.
Feel free to ask further questions as needed!
veggiegardener
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Yeah, they enjoy it.
They even invite friends over. We keep a food dish near the back door. In the last three months we've had repeated visits from an old 'possum, two strange tom cats, and two raccoons.
Fun stuff!
veggiegardener
Well-Known Member
Talk about climate change.
Most years, by now, we've seen several days over 90. Instead, this year, highest highs were barely 80, and today the high is about 62.
WTF?
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Time to prune again.
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This San Pedro Cactus is growing very rapidly.
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If you look carefully you can see the top of a pole I use to run support lines to the branches. I thin the fruit drastically, each year, but it just makes bigger peaches. Without the extra support, all the branches would be broken, by harvest.
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I watch for spider egg sacks and Mantis egg cases throughout fall clean up. I put them in the greenhouses where they're protected until they hatch. They move outdoors as conditions become more attractive.
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Happily revegging!
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I was spreading this Pineapple Thai out, bending the branches away from each other. This split won't even slow growth down, as long as the skin of the stem remains intact, lengthwise. Water and nutrients still flow. I'll try to get more pictures of this split as it heals.
In 1980, a stealth grower I knew told me about the splitting technique, which was basically a precursor to Supercropping and LST.
Growers would split the stem of a two foot plant, and pin the halves to the ground so that the branches would grow along the length of each side.
I tried it and liked it, one season, but as luck would have it, the technique called Low Stress Training occurred to me the following Winter. That and Supercropping have since been my choices.
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I put Ladybugs in my greenhouses about a month ago. Some left eggs. This Ladybug nymph is capable of eating a LOT of critters, before becoming an adult. They move surprisingly fast when hungry
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This White Russian is slow to reveg, but I can see progress. Very slow growing strain, until flowering. Then they grow crazy.
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Those who appreciate FIMing should take a close look at the various branches. I've FIMed this plant, twice. Just the central stem the first time, and then six side branches a couple weeks ago.
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A good place for a Catnip plant. Fuzzy likes to nap, nearby.
Most years, by now, we've seen several days over 90. Instead, this year, highest highs were barely 80, and today the high is about 62.
WTF?
View attachment 961190
Time to prune again.
View attachment 961193
This San Pedro Cactus is growing very rapidly.
View attachment 961204
If you look carefully you can see the top of a pole I use to run support lines to the branches. I thin the fruit drastically, each year, but it just makes bigger peaches. Without the extra support, all the branches would be broken, by harvest.
View attachment 961227View attachment 961228
I watch for spider egg sacks and Mantis egg cases throughout fall clean up. I put them in the greenhouses where they're protected until they hatch. They move outdoors as conditions become more attractive.
View attachment 961240View attachment 961241
Happily revegging!
View attachment 961244View attachment 961246View attachment 961242
I was spreading this Pineapple Thai out, bending the branches away from each other. This split won't even slow growth down, as long as the skin of the stem remains intact, lengthwise. Water and nutrients still flow. I'll try to get more pictures of this split as it heals.
In 1980, a stealth grower I knew told me about the splitting technique, which was basically a precursor to Supercropping and LST.
Growers would split the stem of a two foot plant, and pin the halves to the ground so that the branches would grow along the length of each side.
I tried it and liked it, one season, but as luck would have it, the technique called Low Stress Training occurred to me the following Winter. That and Supercropping have since been my choices.
View attachment 961285
I put Ladybugs in my greenhouses about a month ago. Some left eggs. This Ladybug nymph is capable of eating a LOT of critters, before becoming an adult. They move surprisingly fast when hungry
.View attachment 961293
This White Russian is slow to reveg, but I can see progress. Very slow growing strain, until flowering. Then they grow crazy.
View attachment 961306
Those who appreciate FIMing should take a close look at the various branches. I've FIMed this plant, twice. Just the central stem the first time, and then six side branches a couple weeks ago.
View attachment 961308
A good place for a Catnip plant. Fuzzy likes to nap, nearby.
floridasucks
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dammm your san pedro looks amazing. how are u getting it that nice?
Gr33nCrack
Active Member
Hey veggie, how big do your plants get in your 12 inch planter box? and whats your average yield, say for an indica, I am wondering if 5 gallons of soil is enough if i start my plants right now, like enough to maxamize there growth for the rest of the season
Gr33nCrack
Active Member
lol i split my only plant last year the same way 
.. i was so fuckin scared, i just taped it back together with duct tape n it was fine
.. i was so fuckin scared, i just taped it back together with duct tape n it was fine
Gr33nCrack
Active Member
haha
veggiegardener
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Plant size and yield are pretty much unlimited, only depending how much space the plant has.
My largest plants have been in the four pound range. Average is about 600 grams.
A five gallon bucket is small.
The smallest pot I'll use for a plant intended to go all season is fifteen gallons. It has been over a decade since I matured a plant in a pot, but the yield was about 8 oz.
Gr33nCrack
Active Member
Alright i'll just have to put them in the ground which will be a little more work. I think i'd rather have more towards 600 grams that 8 ounces. Gracias, i'd give you more reputation but i can't yet