My leaves are droopy and sad...why?

Supersoul

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Hi guys, I talked to them and even played music for them. I dont know why they are sad. I just got new lights (1000 watts hps) and are 26" from the canopy. They were on cfl's 32 watts x 2 before the switch. Is the light too close? I am also having a hard time controling the temp. With 2 x 1000 watts hps it gets very hot. So i got this portable AC unit that is blowing cold air over the canopy to make it cooler. On the other end of the grow room i got a oscalating fan that was beating the crap out of them until today that i decided to raise the fan. Now that lights are out, i shut down all the fan. I will wait till lights on to do anything about it. Do you guys think its too much of a switch on the lights? Or are they not use to the AC being in there? The temps has been higher than normal. It was at aabout 75 degrees and now its around 85 degrees if i keep it like this will theey recover? Help with sugestions please..thanksDSC03218.jpgDSC03232.jpg
 

BullwinkleOG

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The droopy leaves are looking A LOT like my Tahoe OG when it was under severe moisture stress. It was much younger than this plant, it was a newer rooted clone with about 5 or 6 nodes and when I popped the rockwool cube into the soil it was like a sponge submerged in water, the plant looked good the first day or two then developed interveinal chlorosis (yellowing between the veins) and it got really droopy just like your plant. The 2 large leaves on top would hang to where the tips of them would be touching the main stem. The first thing I would look at might be your watering.

I would keep your temps down a little lower than 85, if you can get it to 80 that would be great, mine never goes above 83 and the plants do pretty good at that. They will recover, the leaves will perk right back up. I was sure my Tahoe OG was going to die so i went out and got a new clone and put it under some weaker lights and it recovered and it's doing great now. Just pay close attention. I think you should talk about your watering and any nutes you are using because theres a good chance it's the root of your problem.
 

SectionX

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Make sure you aren't over watering, that was the cause of all my drooping issues. I doubt it is an issue with your lighting/heat, what type of growing method are you using? Also make sure your nutrient regimen is efficient and won't leave your babies with any deficiencies.
 

m4s73r

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and what point of the day are we talking about. Just about all of my plants start to droop about 2 hours before lights off.
 

Supersoul

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Im using soil FFOF for this grow. I gave them a 1/2 strenghth of Tiger bloom for the first time 2 water ago (6 days ago). Before that i had them in the original FFOF soil mix with nothing added for 10 weeks and they were healthy and happy. That pic was taken 2 hours before lights out. Before i have noticed that they will do that a little before lights out but this time they really drooped. Usually the top of the branches would reach toward the light but this time it looks like they are turning away from by drooping even the bud sites are drooping away from the light. They are about to be flipped to flowering but i am not sure if i should take a chance to flower them until i can make them happy again.
1) changes in adding tiger bloom nutes at half strength
2) changes from 32 x 2 cfl s to 1000 watt hps
3) changes in average temp from 75 degrees to 85 degrees
4) changes in the environment (went from being placed on shelves to being put in a room)
5) First time using AC with and swing blowing vent hitting the top leaves to keep them cooler.

I know thats lot of changes. and it seems like there is something/somethings that they dont like. and i cant firgure it out. The lights are hung from an appropriate height. The Ph in the water is at 6.5 befoe i added the 1/2 strength tiger bloom. And i had the temp up to 85 before and they were fine. With so many new changes i am not sure which is freaking them out. DSC03239.jpgDSC03240.jpg
 

TheOrganic

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Here's what I do if I have droopy leaves
Check light distance......At end of your light cycle check how they look. If leaves are slightly cupped up and laying horizontal to main stem then your good. But watch for stretching.
Check temps.... but I run a controller at 77deg is the hottest I will get.
Check watering.....don't flood them.

Was gonna say to your leaves look like they might be clawing down from 2 much N. Check the tips are they burnt?
 
Check light distance, put your hand above the top of the plants palm up, if your palm starts to get uncomfortably hot after a while then your lights are too close. Other than that, to me it looks like over-watering, don't water so frequently. If you haven't, check the top 3 inches of your soil to see if it is dry, that would be considered watering time. Also lift your pots to feel the weight of them when they are dry, and then do that again when you water. When they feel that light, its usually time to water. For me, temps usually stay at about 80 during day time, and drop to 70 at night.
 

gotigers0420

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They could be stressing a bit from the lighting change, it is possible. other than that, make sure water and heat are in check and they should bounce back. good luck
 

Destillat

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I actually know exactly what you're talking about lol. Firstly, you should take all of the above posters advice about your irrigation schedule, but I doubt that is what is causing the drooping.

I run an ebb and flow perpetual garden and notice sometimes when I switch them over to 12-12 moving from a 400 mh to a 600 hps causes stress. It's definitely a form of transplant shock as it acclimates to the new environment. Without pictures, I can't diagnose the health of your plants, but they should be just fine. Lower the temp asap. 72-75 is ideal. Other than that, pick up anything with vitamin b-1 ( super thrive) and add to a watering if you feel yo need a boost.
 

Destillat

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Oops didn't see you had pictures. Yea, it's definitely heat stress. Get your temps under control before anything else. You'll be fine!
 

Supersoul

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This morning they look like a little more perky but 50% still looks down. I just gave them water (ph 6.5) this morning and am not gong to water them again for another 3-4 days depending on the soil. Before this morning watering it has been 3 days and the soil did looked and felt dry (1 1/2 inch from the top.) After shutting off the lights and fan all night and the temp got down to 68 degrees right now the temp is 80 degrees with the AC shutting upward. I did place my hand over the canopy for a while to see if it was hot and it was not. It is still early and the room is cool and i am expecting it to raise to 85 degrees. I am still trying to get better control of the temps, and starting to think its the new environment. Such as new lights, air, walls and trying to balance this out is a pain in the butt especially when they are schedual to go into 36 hours of darkness today to trigger the flowering stage and then to be put on 12/12. I got pics of the night before and this morning. View attachment 2032974 View attachment 2032977
 

kermit2692

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i can guarantee you that it was underwatering and heat stress..this will be confirmed if after you watered them at your last post they perked up within a few hours..had you recently started flowering and turned on the hids? if so you will need to water quite a bit more often from now on alot of times people forget to compensate for that
 
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