My latest Vert garden

animaniacs said:

DOOd viOlatOr kush strains an strains of many r 4 Transvestites This StOof is trash bags you gotta go beyond it an grow 20 feet mammoths of pure Wild LetTucE loool

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Please don't come here and spew random shit. I don't want your bullshit filling my thread.

Thanks so much PK for sharing this amazing grow with us all. I know for myself, it has really inspired me to reach greater heights with my grows.

All the best, and continued happy growing

So, one 12" exhaust cools those 5x 1000w bulbs?

How do you have your air movement in there? What kind of intakes and what size?

And , what kind of seasons do you deal with? I'm in MI, and deal with 90°+ summers and single digit winters...

I'd love to be able to get away with active exhaust, but i'm just wary... If you say you get away with it though, i'll try.

Thanks PK

Thanks PK,

Very interesting and fun thread, except for a few fools, we all get them, LOL

Anyway wish I had the room, looks like something I would like to try.

Don't think my 4' X 2.5' X 6' cabinet could handle anything like that. But may be worth a try with a 400 to 600W HPS and cool tube. What you think?

Peace out,
GR

digging said:

Thanks so much PK for sharing this amazing grow with us all. I know for myself, it has really inspired me to reach greater heights with my grows.

All the best, and continued happy growing

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Thanks for kind words

a senile fungus said:

So, one 12" exhaust cools those 5x 1000w bulbs?

How do you have your air movement in there? What kind of intakes and what size?

And , what kind of seasons do you deal with? I'm in MI, and deal with 90°+ summers and single digit winters...

I'd love to be able to get away with active exhaust, but i'm just wary... If you say you get away with it though, i'll try.

Thanks PK

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Yes, just the one 12" Max Fan for exhaust, and one 10" axial fan with a horti-culture dust shroom for my intake. The thing that helps me big time, is that I have a 6' crawl space under the floors of the grow. This is where I've place my intakes, and is a constant supply of fresh, cool, CO2 rich air.

So the intake and exhaust fan are both plugged into the same outlet, which is controlled by a thermostat. I set the temperature on the thermostat to 75, once the room goes above that the exhaust and intake fans will kick on and cool the room down a few degrees and shut off. Unless I'm in the dead of winter the fans are running full time while the lights are on.

When the lights turn off, a small space heater in the room turns on. This heats the room and activates the intake and exhaust fans roughly every half hour. This gives the plants plenty of fresh air overnight and also controlles humidity spikes when the lights go out.

I have 4 fans in the room pushing air around 1 box fan on the floor, 2 stand up fans, and a wall mounted one blowing over the tops of the plants. I would like another box fan instead of a stand up, but i'm working with what I got for now.

Summers here get warm, mid to high 20s (Celsius), winters are pretty mild though. This year we only really had a 2 week cold snap with freezing temps. During the hottests parts of summer my temps do get too warm. To combat this I'll just run 3 lights. Always leaving the middle light on, i'll just alternate the other two every night so that the plants get even coverage every 2 days. Not ideal, but the rest of the year, my exhaust and intake do just fine in managing my temps.

gr865 said:

Thanks PK,

Very interesting and fun thread, except for a few fools, we all get them, LOL

Anyway wish I had the room, looks like something I would like to try.

Don't think my 4' X 2.5' X 6' cabinet could handle anything like that. But may be worth a try with a 400 to 600W HPS and cool tube. What you think?

Peace out,
GR

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Hey thanks, glad you enjoy the thread.

I don't think this style of growing is best suited for your space. The main thing with my style is being able to place multiple bulbs around 1 plant. In my setup, the way I've laid out the plants and lights, each plant has 3 1000w bulbs around it. Essentially they are all getting side lighting, I don't have any lights placed above my plants.

I could see using your one light overhead and having some T5s placed vertically down the wall for some supplimental side lighting, but i'm not sure this is the best way to go

PKHydro said:

No problem. I'm running a top feed/recirculating hydro system. I honestly don't know what it would be called. It's pretty close to RDWC but my roots aren't sitting in water, the water runs through the root system and then drains back to my reservoir. My water pump is on the same timer as my lights, if the lights are on the plants are being fed. Lights go out, pump stops and the roots get their dry cycle. They seem to love this.

I took a 3 gal bucket, drilled a shit load of holes in the bottom and made myself a basic homemade net pot. The 3 gal bucket is filled with freshly washed lava rock, and then I put it inside a 5gal bucket. This leaves like a 5"-6" space for the roots to fill. I like this, because when it comes time to move plants from the veg room to flower room, I just grab the 3gal bucket pull it out from the the 5gal bucket, carry it into the flower room and drop it into the same system in there.

View attachment 3605041Here is a good picture to show the buckets in the veg room. The 3gal is stacked on top of the 5gal. I have 2 stages of growth in veg because I'm running 2 flowering rooms. So they need separate systems with their own reservoir to control the food to each stage.View attachment 3605042 This is me pulling the 3gal pot out, showing the root mass that grows between the buckets.

Because I'm running 2 flowering rooms it's kind of like running a perpetual grow. I keep my rooms 4-5 weeks apart (sometimes shit happens, and the schedule gets bumped around). Once plants go into flower I wait 2 weeks to cut clones, 2 weeks to root, then Veg for 5-6 weeks and keep the cycle going.
NOTE: If this doesn't make sense and you would like clarification just ask. I'm stoned.

As for nutrients I'm running GH micro, grow, bloom. And the odd dose of Calmag. I flush my reservoirs once every 2 weeks unless there is an issue. I also give a weekly H2o2 dose, just to keep everything sterile.

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I recently designed a system similar to how yours is operating. I would call it Modular NFT (Nutrient film technique). I'm sure there's at least a half inch film of nutrient in the bottom of your 5 gal the way the drains are mounted?
Looks like you have a nice running system there

OneHitDone said:

I recently designed a system similar to how yours is operating. I would call it Modular NFT (Nutrient film technique). I'm sure there's at least a half inch film of nutrient in the bottom of your 5 gal the way the drains are mounted?
Looks like you have a nice running system there

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Thanks, although I'm not sure what you mean by "film". There is no water sitting in the bottom of the buckets, when the pump stops the remaining water is quickly absorbed by the root mass sitting in the buckets.

I'd like to see what your system looks like, and explain this film thing to me, I'm curious.

NFT is very common in greenhouse lettuce / herb production. Usually it is channels that are angled down hill (like the system on the wall in the pic below). Nutrient is pumped up to the high end and just runs down hill.
A General Hydroponics AeroFlo is basically a level high flow NFT. That is the principle that my new system works on and how yours is basically acting.
I have a steady stream of nutrient squirting in directly at the root mass rather than dripping down through rocks but it is pretty much the same.
I will try to get some pics of what I put together in the next couple days. Mine are built on smaller 2 gal buckets that I modify and use a 5" netpot in the lid of the upper bucket

PKHydro said:

Thanks for kind words



Yes, just the one 12" Max Fan for exhaust, and one 10" axial fan with a horti-culture dust shroom for my intake. The thing that helps me big time, is that I have a 6' crawl space under the floors of the grow. This is where I've place my intakes, and is a constant supply of fresh, cool, CO2 rich air.

So the intake and exhaust fan are both plugged into the same outlet, which is controlled by a thermostat. I set the temperature on the thermostat to 75, once the room goes above that the exhaust and intake fans will kick on and cool the room down a few degrees and shut off. Unless I'm in the dead of winter the fans are running full time while the lights are on.

When the lights turn off, a small space heater in the room turns on. This heats the room and activates the intake and exhaust fans roughly every half hour. This gives the plants plenty of fresh air overnight and also controlles humidity spikes when the lights go out.

I have 4 fans in the room pushing air around 1 box fan on the floor, 2 stand up fans, and a wall mounted one blowing over the tops of the plants. I would like another box fan instead of a stand up, but i'm working with what I got for now.

Summers here get warm, mid to high 20s (Celsius), winters are pretty mild though. This year we only really had a 2 week cold snap with freezing temps. During the hottests parts of summer my temps do get too warm. To combat this I'll just run 3 lights. Always leaving the middle light on, i'll just alternate the other two every night so that the plants get even coverage every 2 days. Not ideal, but the rest of the year, my exhaust and intake do just fine in managing my temps.



Hey thanks, glad you enjoy the thread.

I don't think this style of growing is best suited for your space. The main thing with my style is being able to place multiple bulbs around 1 plant. In my setup, the way I've laid out the plants and lights, each plant has 3 1000w bulbs around it. Essentially they are all getting side lighting, I don't have any lights placed above my plants.

I could see using your one light overhead and having some T5s placed vertically down the wall for some supplimental side lighting, but i'm not sure this is the best way to go

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Hey bud, yeah I don't have the room for that.
But how about putting 1.5" X 1.5" wire wrapped around both ends of the cabinet with the light in the middle.


I will be able to support the plant by fastening the it to the wire giving approx. 1.5 to 2 feet from the light to the plant. Will try to keep the plant at around 4 to 5 feet tall.

Hope you can make out the drawing, not one of my specialties. LOL
GR\

LOFT said:

man i wish i could get a decent yield out of a 1x2 x 1.2 tent but no idea how to do a decent vert in one

This looks nuts!!
Been in rooms with 18 - 20 big plants and yeilded roughly the same with 4800 watts worth of 600's overhead
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Nice grow mate massive respect

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Check out my sig. I'm doing my first vert. Just got the room set up the other day.

Hey PK, what inch centre between plants on this grow please ?

digging said:

Hey PK, what inch centre between plants on this grow please ?

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Yikes, your getting technical. I'm not really sure, if I had to guess, I'd say maybe 8-9 feet to the plant directly across the room, and maybe 6ft or so to the one on either side? And actually it changes as I can move the buckets around some in the beginning of flower until I feel like I've got the right spacing.

Thanks

What was the final scale..

Oops, forgot to update this thread after my last harvest.

I came out with a little under 6lbs 3oz. Unfortunately I didnt quite hit the 6.5lb mark, like I thought I would. However my parents, and inlaws thought it was some of the nicest stuff so far, and they are always happy to recieve their portion of the meds.

The next crop is 4 weeks out, and these are the plants that I have lolipoped and pruned heavily. The buds are looking bigger than my previous crops, so it will be interesting to see if the plant will produce the same volume of flower with less bud sites.

I've also flipped the next round of plants into the other flower room. I had been noticing that there was some empty spaces in the corners of my room underneath where the bulb hangs. I thought it would be fun to put some clones in dirt and just cram them into the corners for some bonus bud. So this run I have my 4 trees, in the hydro system, and 5 plants in 5gal smart pots that are also tucked in and around the bigger plants.

I'll try and get some updated pics tomorrow!

PKHydro said:

Oops, forgot to update this thread after my last harvest.

I came out with a little under 6lbs 3oz. Unfortunately I didnt quite hit the 6.5lb mark, like I thought I would. However my parents, and inlaws thought it was some of the nicest stuff so far, and they are always happy to recieve their portion of the meds.

The next crop is 4 weeks out, and these are the plants that I have lolipoped and pruned heavily. The buds are looking bigger than my previous crops, so it will be interesting to see if the plant will produce the same volume of flower with less bud sites.

I've also flipped the next round of plants into the other flower room. I had been noticing that there was some empty spaces in the corners of my room underneath where the bulb hangs. I thought it would be fun to put some clones in dirt and just cram them into the corners for some bonus bud. So this run I have my 4 trees, in the hydro system, and 5 plants in 5gal smart pots that are also tucked in and around the bigger plants.

I'll try and get some updated pics tomorrow!

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Boom. 6lb is awesome!!!

http://growershouse.com/ceramic-science-315w-cmh-light-conversion-kit dude check it. 3 points of light for the price of one and i learned that the two point moguls R shit and need the regular mogul 315 to get all the uvb spec.

pinner420 said:

http://growershouse.com/ceramic-science-315w-cmh-light-conversion-kit dude check it. 3 points of light for the price of one and i learned that the two point moguls R shit and need the regular mogul 315 to get all the uvb spec.

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Not sure who this is directed at....but I don't get it.

PKHydro said:

Not sure who this is directed at....but I don't get it.

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I think I can translate; he's saying that three 315W CMH lights pulls about the same watts as a thouie and that the light distribution will be better, as will spectrum.

I have a dozen 315W CMH kits and I'm in the process of getting them set up. He could be right.

Picture update.

Flower room A currently sitting at 5.5 weeks. These are the first plants I've seriously lolipoped, I also cleaned out a bunch of the small middle shoots that don't really amount to much.