My idea of death

CCCmints

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If comfort is your only reason for believing, than heroin junkies and drunks should have just as much of a right to be comfortable in a stupor.
i don't see where he said comfort is the only reason, do you? try reading the sentence right before, "It brings comfort". i also fail to see the correlation between heroin junkies and a religious person in this context, care to help me understand what it is you're trying to say?
 

Zaehet Strife

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Religion brings comfort to someone addicted to religion, just as alcohol brings comfort to someone addicted to alcohol.

Neither are good for us... but we continue to swallow it down without a second thought behind it... accept that it makes us feel good.

Imo, that's what i think he was getting at, i could be wrong though.
 

mindphuk

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i don't see where he said comfort is the only reason, do you? try reading the sentence right before, "It brings comfort". i also fail to see the correlation between heroin junkies and a religious person in this context, care to help me understand what it is you're trying to say?
We hear all of the time that there are plenty of reasons to believe, yet when actually pressed to provide those reasons, people tend to come up short. Beef responded to the only reason that was offered. I think your criticism is unjustified unless you or someone else wants to provide OTHER compelling reasons to believe. Not only that, Beef qualified his remarks saying that "if comfort is the only reason..."

Not only that, you are conflating two different subjects. One is about belief in an afterlife while you specifically bring up religion. Although they probably overlap to a great extent, they are not necessarily the same set of people. Isn't it ironic that you are so careless with your wording while accusing someone else of the same?
 

eye exaggerate

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You believe there is life on the other side, but have no evidence so you rely on faith, the definition of which is belief without justification.

We have no evidence to support the idea that any part of us persists through death.
...here's a question. We humans have no batteries, no cables to plug in, all that jazz. What do you think energizes us? I'm not talking the obvious like foods, and etc. :)
 

mindphuk

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...here's a question. We humans have no batteries, no cables to plug in, all that jazz. What do you think energizes us? I'm not talking the obvious like foods, and etc. :)
Why do you want to discount the obvious like food and oxygen? Would ATP be a better answer for you?
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Fuel cells are the way of the future. I believe that they are going to be the new "batteries", you just need to add hydrogen!

~PEACE~
I'm not so sure, unless we can solve hydrogen's energy density issues. Now, a fuel cell that cheaply, efficiently converts vegetable oil ... cn

 

Beefbisquit

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...here's a question. We humans have no batteries, no cables to plug in, all that jazz. What do you think energizes us? I'm not talking the obvious like foods, and etc. :)
That's a loaded question.

You're asking what powers us except for the things that actually give us energy.

My answer as to what energizes us is; sleep, proper nutrition, and the sun.

I would imagine it was that very sun, billions of years ago, that 'energized' some mixture of goop that caused the first life to form.

EDIT: Didn't see that MP pretty much said the same thing.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Whats wrong with the energy density in liquid hydrogen? Thats some powerful stuff!

~PEACE~
Liquid hydrogen has an astonishingly low
1) specific gravity
2) boiling point
3) heat of vaporization
4) explosive threshold in air.

All rotten qualities for a storable and portable energy source. Imo they don't offset its shining qualities:
1) awesome heat of combustion
2) easiest fuel cell feedstock
3) very clean combustion.

Jmo. This is the sort of things about which engineers love to throw empties at each other. cn
 

eye exaggerate

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Why do you want to discount the obvious like food and oxygen? Would ATP be a better answer for you?
...(ttb) that's like saying lucifer is satan >.<

...I was discounting the obvious because - why not? I was mulling that idea around yesterday and it seemed to fit in bb's post. And he's right, it is a loaded question.
 

Beefbisquit

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...(ttb) that's like saying lucifer is satan >.<

...I was discounting the obvious because - why not? I was mulling that idea around yesterday and it seemed to fit in bb's post. And he's right, it is a loaded question.
The correct answer is most likely the one that makes the least amount of assumptions. ;)
 

Zaehet Strife

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I waited on these two girls one time, and they wrote on a piece of paper (after giving me a 15 dollar tip, which was very nice indeed) "We are all souls just trying to be human" and i laughed, and said to myself "silly girls" and then thought of Eye for a split second, and laughed again, lol.
 

eye exaggerate

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I waited on these two girls one time, and they wrote on a piece of paper (after giving me a 15 dollar tip, which was very nice indeed) "We are all souls just trying to be human" and i laughed, and said to myself "silly girls" and then thought of Eye for a split second, and laughed again, lol.
;)

 

eye exaggerate

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I waited on these two girls one time, and they wrote on a piece of paper (after giving me a 15 dollar tip, which was very nice indeed) "We are all souls just trying to be human" and i laughed, and said to myself "silly girls" and then thought of Eye for a split second, and laughed again, lol.
...was just listening to this, had to post it :)

[video=youtube;AK5kk0MB_ZI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK5kk0MB_ZI[/video]
 

Beefbisquit

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...sure, I can dig that. But, one is a carrier, a transporter, etc. while the other is the actual energy itself - pure and undifferentiated.
I don't understand what you're talking about. But if I did, I'd still want to see evidence to support your idea before it would be given any credibility in my eyes.
 
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