My first grow! Updated daily. 400 watt Ebb and Flow - White Berry

doogleef said:

Here is the tub I got with the pots in it. I am wondering if I should add medium in between the netpots (very little room) or if the roots will be ok given the tight space. Hmmmm

Off to do some research .... l8


EDIT: Crappy pic I know. Camera phone. Will use real camera next time.

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I would cut back from 12 net pots to 8. You are going to run into some seious space issues if you try and fit 12 girls in that little tub. Not only will the roots run out of space but your folage will be affected because it will not have any space to grow. as far as adding medium to your net pots it depends on what your using. Are you using rockwool cubes? if you are what size are they. If there is space left in the net pots ater you ad he rockwool then you DEF want some type of medium in there as well. Hydroton would work best. Good luck with everything and keep it up. But deffinetly go a little smaller. You will regret it when you hve to kill a couple of girls because of space issues.

Hi Guys,

Just got back from Pet store. Got an air pump, stone and some line. Will itemize in a sec.

Hydro - I may very well wind up killing a clone or 2 but I hope not. . I will be chopping any extra foliage from the bottom 6-8" of the clone. This should result in a spear type single cola plant. I have seen several SOG grows done in 4" RW cubes that are set up so they have 9 plants per sq ft. I will be using the higromite grow rocks as a medium. I may wind up with less than the 17 I have planned. Depends on how successful I am at cloning.

Beech - Very cool, man. I will probably be hitting you up at some point for that info. I hear you on the "Less is more" mantra. As Al B Fuct said " there is a bell curve to nutrients. Not enough, just right, and dead. Don't over do it."

Puff - Thanks for stopping by! I'm still unsure about the space between the pots. I will keep looking around for similar setup.

Hey man! You've really done your research! Great! I was actually gearing up for my next grow which was really comperable to yours... moms in FFOF soil and I have 4 kitty litter trays for each 2 wk cycle for sog and ebb and flow. White Berry as a matter of fact a 5 other test strains to see how they handled....

However... I'm verting back to soil... everything they've said can NOT be stressed enough... if it's done right and kept in constant check... your good... however, I've made mistakes and had issues that were silly and avoidable in soil... guess call me a lazy stoner... but I'd rather go with simplicity rather than the extra extention cord!

Good Luck and I'll definitely be following! I'll start a new journal once my White Berry, White Rhino, and Hawwian Snow beans are done germin... hhmm... guess I should go check those!

Cheers!!!

Hi illusionz1. I thought about going with 4 seperate trays but that mees 4 different nute res and I don't have that kind of space. Good luck on your grow. Don't give up on dro yet. I think once I get the setup going it should be easy to maintain. The toughest part will be rooting the clones I need ever 8-9 weeks. See you around!

Supplies ***********

4" bubble doughnut - $5
Air Pump - $6
Tubing - $2

All from Pet store.

good job on getting the rond stone you will be mch happier with it. the 4inch are the best as well. I would suggest getting a couple more if you can and even putting two in your res the more air the better

doogleef said:

Hi illusionz1. I thought about going with 4 seperate trays but that mees 4 different nute res and I don't have that kind of space. Good luck on your grow. Don't give up on dro yet. I think once I get the setup going it should be easy to maintain. The toughest part will be rooting the clones I need ever 8-9 weeks. See you around!

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Yeah... I want the 2wk perpetual harvest goin and having 4 nute cycles goin in a 2'x4'x8' closet wasn't goin to cut it trying to incorparate the res, mom/clone chamber, and flower chamber... if I get more space to play with I may return to ol' dro... but for now, it's time for me to setup simply instead of trying to fit everything into such a space... it'd be a mess!

I'm thinkin the clones won't be too tough for me... help do it once and they all rooted when my homie showed me how... I'm juss gonna cut'em, root them, and flower them after two weeks from the cut... then lollipop them bitches and drool over the cola's on a stick!

Man! I just got slobber on the key board!

Your space is a little larger than mine but not much. I considered going with the 2 week schedule and I may wind up doing that if cloning is slow. I have to have 1 res though. That means everything on the same PPM and PH. This will work best if they are all at the same stage of growth. I've seen grows where the 1 week clones are on the same nutes as the 8 wk clones so i will go that way if I have to.

doogleef said:

I've seen grows where the 1 week clones are on the same nutes as the 8 wk clones so i will go that way if I have to.

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8 weeks clones AKA "Plant" lol

Hydrokronics said:

8 weeks clones AKA "Plant" lol

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lol. Details... details .... lol

haha... this is great! Welp... I expect to have sprouts by the end of the week and it'll be fun to compare the soil and the dro... I'm currently grown White Russians hydro and another guy is 2wks ahead of me growin in soil... so it's fun to compare!

Thanks for all the views and comments everyone. They are welcome and appreciated.

Everything I have ordered online is in transit and should be here in the next 2 days. Got tracking info on everything.

I am wrestling with my plan of attack ....

I'm not sure if I wanna do my moms in soil and just get clones for my flood table or if I should put the moms in the flood table and turn them to 12/12 after I get the clones I need. I can then put a couple of the clones in veg for new moms. This will give me bud 2 weeks earlier but forces me to have different height plants on the table. Hmmmm...

I would like to avoid the soil if I can. Decisions decisions....

Cloning is harder in soil for most But i have no prob.MY 8 week clones go under my 600 at 4weeks lol.Good choice on the round stone there alot better than any the other ones,the only problem i had was getting them to stay on the bottom and used a brackett to hold it down dont use adhesive you will have to change it out at some point.BEECHY

No new supplies today but I got notification from USPS that the origin post is preparing shipment. Seeds have not cleared customs yet.

Everything else (tent, light, heatpad, meter) shoud be here by Friday at the latest.

Back to work for now....

Homeland Security got 4 of mine this year 2 from Nirvana and the dr.Hope you get em.

Attitude has a pretty good rep so I am still not worried. (yet ) DR got flagged last month in Chicago so it may be awhile before thay are reliable again if ever.

Still to get:

Hoses
Ebb/Flow fittings - 1/2"
Nutrients
H2O2 - 35%
Testing equipment - PH
Exhast Fan
Carbon filter if needed - I am growing a berry so I may be able to control the odor with ONA for less $
Tubs to make MOM chamber for vegging
Cloning Gel

EDIT ADDITIONS:
Thermostat for exhast
Dimmer for exhast set to low( So even when temp is down and thermostat turns "off" the exhast still keeps a small amount of negative pressure in the tent and air moving through filter)
ducting for cooltube
duct fan - 6"
light hangers ( will probably just get chains. The One's they have at the Dro store are nice though)
electrical pieces for small cfl tree - for seedlings, clones and 2nd gen moms

And my damn shipped items!

Going with soil for moms. I will probably be vegging them under the 400HPS. I know that will give me thick stems but that is good for my cloning operation. I have been doing more forum surfing and had started to second guess my choices but no more... I went with the ebb/flow because it is simple active hydro with less that can go wrong. Hempy, DWC, Aero all have thier advantages but for ease of use and the least amount of attention required ebb/flow is tits!

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Hi Cogo! Thanks for stopping in. I hope to have a nice little SOG going in a few weeks.