My first grow, 400 watt scrog, white russian and blue cheese.

Thanks for the info kentucky, here is the link to the strain review and smoke report if anyone is interested, https://www.rollitup.org/seed-strain-reviews/593577-white-russian-blue-cheese-review.html .

psilocybindude said:

Okay so i think i just peaked on marijuana, i had no idea it was possible until now, some time with in the past hour or so i packed an extremely small bowl of White Russian scissor hash that i got off of my grow here.
I took about 3 small hits off of the tiny bowl and i must say the experience has been unpleasant to say the least i can barley even Begin to describe this experience except to say that it was like being on the verge of mushroom trip, i feel an extreme amount of anxiety, i am unable to concentrate or focus and my senses seem to be over whelming me.

I was so fucked up that i felt like i was shaking rapidly, i started freaking out a bit so i called my GF and i didn't feel like i was talking correctly i felt like i was talking jittery because of the shaking, so i got off the phone with her and started to calm down a bit and i started wondering if i was really shaking or if i just felt like i was shaking so i go take a look in the mirror and i can see that i am clearly not shaking.
I don't know if i was on the verge of some type of psychosis or mental break or if that was an anxiety attack or what but it was uncomfortable to say the least, i was way to fucking high.
I have noticed before the off putting feeling of a shroom trip when i have eaten weed peanut butter before but i have never experienced a high so intense, i felt like i was having a stroke. It took me quite a long to come down and be capable of writing this but now that i am, i am just wondering if anyone else has had panic attack like experiences from being to high?

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Never been that high I think ya might have smoked some mushrooms

johndolly420 said:

Never been that high I think ya might have smoked some mushrooms

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Lol maybe, i did forget to check the buds for psychedelic fungi after harvesting...

Alright so i believe the final weight is in on the White Russian 94.93 grams, my Blue Cheese yielded 53.92 grams most of which was water cured so that makes the total weight for my grow 5.31 o/z not as much as i was hoping for but hey not half bad for my first grow i pulled 0.37 grams per watt, i also lost some weight on the water cure by my math i figure i lost 16 grams from the total yield of the blue cheese by water curing it, so i would have pulled 5.88 o/z or 0.41 grams per watt had i not water cured. I believe a lot of factors came into play with this lower than expected yield, i believe i had a magnesium deficiency, all of my fan leaves were pretty small also my sugar leaves started yellowing in the end, i only had 2 feet by 4 feet of canopy space and from what i understand a 400 watt hps should be able to adequately cover a 4 x 4 foot canopy, i also don't think i kept my light close enough for most of the grow i had it at 12 inch's just to be safe and it is air cooled so i believe i could have gotten it a lot closer.

I may not have gotten as much as i wanted out of this first grow but that is fine with me, i have gained quite a bit of valuable information from it and i intend to improve a lot of things on my upcoming grow, also had i had 2 clones of the better yielding White Russian plant i figure i would have gotten 6.78 o/z or 0.47 grams per watt.

Here is a copy of my grow log.


7/25/2012 8:30pm Watered and planted in to jiffy seed starter mix PH 5.5
7/26/2012 9:30pm WR broke threw the surface
7/27/2012 8:00am BC broke threw the surface
7/28/2012 1:00am watered WR and BC with a little bit of water
7/29/2012 6:00am noticed WR stem is purple : possible causes, temps, ph, lack of nutrients, over watering
7/31/2012 1130am watered with PH adjusted water 7.5 WR run off 7.1 BC run off 7.3
8/03/2012 7:00pm watered with PH adjusted water 7.0 WR run off 6.5 BC run off 6.5
8/07/2012 4:30pm watered with PH adjusted water 6.9 WR run off 6.7 BC run off 6.4
8/08/2012 6:00pm noticed BC 1st true leaves leaf tips turned brown and are dying
8/11/2012 5:48pm watered with PH adjusted water 7.0 WR run off 6.4 BC run off 6.6
8/14/2012 10:50pm watered with PH adjusted water 7.0 WR run off 6.4 BC run off 6.7
8/16/2012 1:00am BC brown tips are spreading to second true set of leaves also noticed yellowing on WR first true set of leaves
8/16/2012 3:00am transplanted into 1.5 gal air pot and watered with PH adjusted water 7.0 didn't test run off
8/17/2012 9:36pm plants have developed no nutrient burn yet and have grown about an inch since transplant
8/20/2012 5:00am watered with PH 6.7-6.8 water yellowing seems to have stopped plants have grown a lot
8/23/2012 6:00am watered with PH adjusted water 7.1 didn't test run off and topped both plants at the 7th node
8/27/2012 1:00am watered with PH adjusted water 7.0
8/30/2012 8:00pm watered with PH adjusted water 6.9 topped WR and BC for the second time
9/04/2012 2:00am performed dry transplant into 2.4 gal air pots and watered with PH adjusted water 7.0
9/06/2012 10:00pm watered with PH adjusted water 7.0
9/07/2012 6:00pm foliar feeding 16 oz water 1/2 tsp Epsom salts
9/08/2012 5:00pm watered plants 2 tsp of Epsom salts in 1 gal with PH adjusted water 7.0 WR run off 6.9-6.8 blue cheese run off 6.8 i am pretty sure that a lot of the water is not passing threw the soil which is causing my measurements to be skewed. also misted leaves to help with foliar spray absorption.
9/12/2012 5:07am watered PH adjusted 7.0 1 tsp Epsom salts 1 tbsp molasses
9/16/2012 1:00pm watered PH adjusted 7.0 1 tsp Epsom salts 1 tbsp molasses
9/19/2012 12:00pm watered with PH adjusted water 6.5 1 tsp Epsom salts 1 tbsp molasses also transplanted into unused blue tub soil and turned on hps
9/23/2012 5:00am watered with straight water PH adjusted 6.5
9/25/2012 9:30pm watered with PH 6.7-6.8 water tested run off blue cheese run off ranged from 7.3-7.5 WR stayed steady at 7.2
9/26/2012 6:32pm topped both plants 4 more times
9/28/2012 8:51pm watered with PH 5.8 water run off of blue cheese 7.4 run off of White Russian 7.7
10/01/2012 12:00pm replaced air filter, replacement air filter claims it will work for 18 months also flipped switch to flower lights going off at 7 am and turning on at 7pm
10/01/2012 9:15pm flushed each plant with 5 gallons of water water not adjusted 5.6 super cropped again so i could fit them back in my scrog crates
10/04/2012 9:00pm watered with 1 tsp Epsom salts 1 tbs molasses
10/08/2012 8:00pm watered each plant with 1 gal of straight water
10/12/2012 9:14pm watered each plant with 1 gal straight water
10/18/2012 12:20am watered each plant with 1 1/2 gal of EWC tea each
10/21/2012 4:30 am watered each plant with 1/2 gal of left over EWC tea and 1/2 gal straight water
10/24/2012 1:00 am watered each plant with 1 gal water
10/27/2012 1:39 am watered each plant with 1 gallon of water
10/29/2012 8:00 pm watered with 1 gal of straight water per plant
11/01/2012 8:00pm watered both plants with 1 gallon
11/04/2012 8:00pm watered both plants with 1 gallon also trimmed some undergrowth
11/07/2012 9:00pm watered both plants with 1 gallon straight water
11/10/2012 9:00pm watered both plants with 1 gallon straight water
11/13/2012 6:30pm watered both plants with 1 gallon of water 1 tsp Epsom salts per gallon
11/16/2012 6:00pm watered both plants with 1 gallon straight water
11/19/2012 9:00pm watered both plants with 1 gallon straight water

11/22/2012 7:00pm watered both plants with 1 gal of straight water
11/24/2012 1200am started harvesting blue cheese put blue cheese under water and into closet at 9am
11/25/2012 7:00pm WR straight water
11/29/2012 1:44am watered WR straight water
11/30/2012 8:00pm put Blue Cheese in food dehydrator
12/01/2012 5:00am pulled bud out probably dehydrated for to long buds quite crisp
12/02/2012 4:00am watered White Russian
12/04/2012 9:40am finished harvesting and put in closet to dry
12/07/2012 1:00am chopped off stems removed from closet and put in jars to manicure, there doesn't seem to be to much excess water


Blue cheese trim cannabutter 114 wet grams into 4 lb of butter

White Russian trim bubble bags in freezer for bubble hash

94.93 air dry WR

blue cheese total 53.92
7.42 from 1 oz wet
5.57 from 1 oz wet water cure
16 grams more cheese had i not water cured

so blue cheese 69.92 grams excluding water cure

148.85 grams actual yield 0.37 GPW
164.85 with out water cure 0.41 GPW
189.86 had i grown 2 clones of the WR and not water cured 0.47 GPW

Nobody ever gets their best off the first one!! Like I said, I don't think those air pots work well for your set-up. A 400 is good for a 3x3 area, imo. A lil tip for ya. U want to get your max, use some reflective material on your walls. U will b surprised at how much bigger and denser your nugs r. Also 10"-12" is a good height from the canopy. Light distance is more based on coverage/intensity. If it needs to be at 2' to cover your area, then u would either need more light or size down your growing area to optimize the outcome. I think you did rather well for your first one, considering your bumps along the way. Look forward to your next round!! Oh ya, if your doing a super soil, make sure "all" the ingredients go in with the proper measurements Peace!!

I painted my walls flat white before the grow but they got a bit scuffed up during the build but i was thinking about getting some Mylar maybe, as far as the super soil goes I'm gonna pass on that now that I've got a grow under my belt i am going to go with the 3 part General Hydroponics system in hemp buckets i want to have more control and i believe it will give it to me.

V 2.0 https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/597079-my-2nd-grow-400-watt.html#post8363782

hey man does your ballast have a fan? if so you should mount it so the fan is blowing upwards as heat rises and this is the most efficient way to run the ballast for long life!

Nah man my ballast doesn't have a fan its all passive cooling, it doesn't seem to get to hot and my ventilation system is pretty efficient i think so it dissipates heat pretty quickly.

You need a vapo it will kill the smell you worry about and the paranoia. Having the bomb is sweet....can not wait till mine are ready.

psilocybindude said:

The screen is about 10 inch's from the top of the planters and the blue cheese's longest branches stretch's about 6 inch's past the screen, the white Russian seems to be quite a bit shorter it only stretch's a few inch's above the screen on the longest branch, as far as when I'm going to flower man i don't know i have never done a scrog before and i don't know how full the screens need to be before i flower, i was going to flower last week when i transplanted and hit the hps but my timer broke i will have one in a few days but i want to get my PH under control first.

I am really wondering if i have been fucking up my PH i am wondering if i am doing something wrong, yesterday i mixed up my water and PH adjusted it to 7.0 before i pulled my plants out and took pictures, about an hour later i put the plants back in and watered them and my PH was a full 8.5 higher than it was when i first mixed it up so i brought it down to 6.7-6.8. I'm gonna read up a bit on how to do it correctly i have watched some videos but i haven't seen anything that has told me i need to let it sit for the PH to stabilize i am also not so sure that my PH adjusting technique is working out right i have been just dropping it into a jug and shaking it quite a lot but it is tiring and i am not sure how well the water and ph stuff is getting mixed it is really quite annoying.

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I been having the same issue with ph of my tap water at 7.2-7.6 been using 16 drops of lemon juice to a gallon to drop 1 point but occasionally a gallon I prepare drops to 4.5 overnight while others mixed the same way stay at 6.6....??

psilocybindude said:

Man this PH shit is really starting to piss me off, i just went to water my plants today and i checked the PH on the water and it was 9.5, last time i watered i got the PH to 7.0 i waited one hour or so and checked it again and it was 8 something so i used this jug to dilute the other one and bring the PH back down on the one i was going to water with, so i took one 16 o/z glass from each jug and swapped them and here i am 3 days later and this jug is up to 9.5 this water is usually sitting around 5.0 when i first pop the cap... I am seriously thinking i have fucked up the soil with this PH up shit and am tempted to stop using it all together...

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Double check or re-calibrate your ph pen(assuming that’s your testing method)your ph levels sound extreme.