My first class with the golden teacher

Mookjong · Mar 13, 2013

aCiDjEsUs said:
Poly, actually I don't feel bad it's my first time doing this so I was nicely surprised that I got 3 jars with no contam. it would be nice having those two dozen jars without any contam. but I'm happy with what I got. I still got one syringe left, so if all goes well with those jars that I got right now, I'll reuse them after birthing the cakes.

What are you going to do differently next time? That's some pretty bad luck. I'm curious what some of the mistake might have been. I'm not trying to point fingers at all. I just want to know so I don't make the same mistakes. Basically, I'm curious if the popcorn has something do with it. I've done whole rye grain pretty haphazardly with much better results. I usually get 1 or 2 bad jars out 14. I never liked that 68*F temp you kept them at either. Again, there's no negative tone here, just wanna know what might have happened. I mean that's why we're all here, to learn from each other mistakes.

Something that has helped me a lot is this, and it applies to both the substrate and casing layer. The amount of water you want is that of a sponge that has been wrung out to point of no drips or heavy water pockets. You don't want to be holding water, you want to be holding moisture. Hopefully that makes sense.

RetiredMatthebrute · Mar 13, 2013

heres some pics,,,,cased 3 mor epans today with straw, have 3 jars left. doing my grain to grain tomorow and casing the last 2 jars in a tote.

boiled my corn today and going to let it dry over night, used the straw steep as suggested to boil the corn in so will see how it goes. i think i can see small pinning going on but no pin heads yet, just so upwards growth of mycelium if what it looks like. hopefully by tomorow i have some noticable pins.

will be doing 8 more jars tomorow.

canndo · Mar 13, 2013

Mookjong said:
Can I ask your thoughts on ensuring maximum potency with even distribution of psilocybin throughout each of the fruit bodies? Another RIU poster is swearing by horse dung, however the only thing I have found from published mycologists is that temperature is the most important variable for potency. Where certain temps will allow the fruit body to out grow the psilocybin. Thus making a bigger, weaker mushroom.

Don't worry about potency, you want potent? pick early.

aCiDjEsUs · Mar 13, 2013

Mookjong said:
What are you going to do differently next time? That's some pretty bad luck. I'm curious what some of the mistake might have been. I'm not trying to point fingers at all. I just want to know so I don't make the same mistakes. Basically, I'm curious if the popcorn has something do with it. I've done whole rye grain pretty haphazardly with much better results. I usually get 1 or 2 bad jars out 14. I never liked that 68*F temp you kept them at either. Again, there's no negative tone here, just wanna know what might have happened. I mean that's why we're all here, to learn from each other mistakes.

Something that has helped me a lot is this, and it applies to both the substrate and casing layer. The amount of water you want is that of a sponge that has been wrung out to point of no drips or heavy water pockets. You don't want to be holding water, you want to be holding moisture. Hopefully that makes sense.

Mook I don't know when the next time going be haha I still got one syringe left so maybe in few weeks I'll give another shot. If not it will be in the mail to a good friend of mine haha.

Only first batch was kept at 68F second and third was kept at 75-77F.

It had to be the syringe, only jars that got knocked up with that syringe got contam. But fuck it I ain't worrying about it. 3 jars is plenty for me buddy, should be enough for me and my wife, I don't even know if my wife will have some haha she's not a big fan of hallucinogens.

Mookjong · Mar 13, 2013

aCiDjEsUs said:
Mook I don't know when the next time going be haha I still got one syringe left so maybe in few weeks I'll give another shot. If not it will be in the mail to a good friend of mine haha.

Only first batch was kept at 68F second and third was kept at 75-77F.

It had to be the syringe, only jars that got knocked up with that syringe got contam. But fuck it I ain't worrying about it. 3 jars is plenty for me buddy, should be enough for me and my wife, I don't even know if my wife will have some haha she's not a big fan of hallucinogens.

Oh right on bro, I wasn't sure of your intentions. That has to be frustrating to get a bad syringe. Did you get it from sporeworks? What size are those jars in your pic on the previous page?

RetiredMatthebrute · Mar 13, 2013

aCiDjEsUs said:
Mook I don't know when the next time going be haha I still got one syringe left so maybe in few weeks I'll give another shot. If not it will be in the mail to a good friend of mine haha.

Only first batch was kept at 68F second and third was kept at 75-77F.

It had to be the syringe, only jars that got knocked up with that syringe got contam. But fuck it I ain't worrying about it. 3 jars is plenty for me buddy, should be enough for me and my wife, I don't even know if my wife will have some haha she's not a big fan of hallucinogens.

try popcorn next time man......from all my readings the PF tek really is as Cando says....junk. its great for newbies to the hobby because its simple but from what i have read the contam rates are really really high compared to using popcorn...cant hurt man and a bag of popcorn is like 2 bucks.

but if you decide to give them to your good friend im sure if he was sucessfull he would send you some of the final product...

aCiDjEsUs · Mar 13, 2013

Mookjong said:
Oh right on bro, I wasn't sure of your intentions. That has to be frustrating to get a bad syringe. Did you get it from sporeworks? What size are those jars in your pic on the previous page?

Mook jars are 1/2 paint jelly jars. One order was from sporeworks and one was from spores101. But it's all good

aCiDjEsUs · Mar 13, 2013

RetiredMatthebrute said:
try popcorn next time man......from all my readings the PF tek really is as Cando says....junk. its great for newbies to the hobby because its simple but from what i have read the contam rates are really really high compared to using popcorn...cant hurt man and a bag of popcorn is like 2 bucks.

but if you decide to give them to your good friend im sure if he was sucessfull he would send you some of the final product...

Matt, I'm cool now. I'm fine with what I got buddy

I got my harvest right around the corner so I'm good :weed:

For now I'll see probably how it goes with these jars, I don't know if I'll use that last syringe still thinking about it...if not it's going to be in the mail

oh and I'm sure if my good friend have a successful harvest he would send me some of that fine final product.

Mookjong · Mar 13, 2013

aCiDjEsUs said:
Mook jars are 1/2 paint jelly jars. One order was from sporeworks and one was from spores101. But it's all good

I should have known that lol, for some reason I thought you and Matt where doing the same tek. Obviously there's not grain in those jars. Derp

Do you remember who sold you the bad one? I think many of us would find that information valuable.

aCiDjEsUs · Mar 13, 2013

Mookjong said:
I should have known that lol, for some reason I thought you and Matt where doing the same tek. Obviously there's not grain in those jars. Derp

Do you remember who sold you the bad one? I think many of us would find that information valuable.

I'm not sure if it was a bad syringe or me. So like I said I'm not bashing none of these companies, but I know the syringes from spore101 looked like plain water nothing in it and I used spores101 on my first run (all jars got contam), and then I used some syringes from spreworks but these looked packed with spores, and only jars from one syringe got contam. rest are fine. So Like I said I'm not bashing any of these companies it might as well be my fault.

Mookjong · Mar 13, 2013

RetiredMatthebrute said:
heres some pics,,,,cased 3 mor epans today with straw, have 3 jars left. doing my grain to grain tomorow and casing the last 2 jars in a tote.

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boiled my corn today and going to let it dry over night, used the straw steep as suggested to boil the corn in so will see how it goes. i think i can see small pinning going on but no pin heads yet, just so upwards growth of mycelium if what it looks like. hopefully by tomorow i have some noticable pins.

will be doing 8 more jars tomorow.

That third pic has me worried. Those water droplets on the your lid are pretty big. Every time you open that lid your gonna have big drops hitting your casing and fruit. Both of which is a bad thing. You really don't want anything more than a fine mist. You can see in the pic that some drops have already landed by looking at those trails. You might be smart to put some holes in the sides of the lid. Might wanna wait for canndo to chime in to confirm since he's basically been your mentor. I do believe it's a problem that needs to be addressed pretty soon though.

Mookjong · Mar 13, 2013

aCiDjEsUs said:
I'm not sure if it was a bad syringe or me. So like I said I'm not bashing none of these companies, but I know the syringes from spore101 looked like plain water nothing in it and I used spores101 on my first run (all jars got contam), and then I used some syringes from spreworks but these looked packed with spores, and only jars from one syringe got contam. rest are fine. So Like I said I'm not bashing any of these companies it might as well be my fault.

Fair enough bro, I'll leave it at that.

RetiredMatthebrute · Mar 13, 2013

yeah cuz i used spores101 and got great results so cant really point fingers unless you know...i want to find the hookup on penis envy spores...haha

aCiDjEsUs · Mar 13, 2013

RetiredMatthebrute said:
yeah cuz i used spores101 and got great results so cant really point fingers unless you know...i want to find the hookup on penis envy spores...haha

I got one syringe with chitwan strain. That's the one from sporeworks.

aCiDjEsUs · Mar 13, 2013

I checked my jars just a moment a go, and I think I got some white stuff going in one of my three jars that got knocked up on the 10th.
So if I get 5 fully col. jars I would be more then happy

Mookjong · Mar 13, 2013

RetiredMatthebrute said:
yeah cuz i used spores101 and got great results so cant really point fingers unless you know...i want to find the hookup on penis envy spores...haha

thehawkseye.com has them, I've grown them too. I didn't care for them. They are cool looking but that's about it, I did't find them to be anymore potent as some have claimed. And you don't get decent sized caps. You get a lot more stem and way less cap. The stems get fat as hell tho.

RetiredMatthebrute · Mar 13, 2013

i have heard they are really really potent.

MJG420 · Mar 13, 2013

RetiredMatthebrute said:
heres some pics,,,,cased 3 mor epans today with straw, have 3 jars left. doing my grain to grain tomorow and casing the last 2 jars in a tote.

View attachment 2567129 View attachment 2567130 View attachment 2567131 View attachment 2567132

boiled my corn today and going to let it dry over night, used the straw steep as suggested to boil the corn in so will see how it goes. i think i can see small pinning going on but no pin heads yet, just so upwards growth of mycelium if what it looks like. hopefully by tomorow i have some noticable pins.

will be doing 8 more jars tomorow.

Wow Matt looks like you are just plugging along here! I'm hot on your tail though, updating my jorunal in a few stop on by. :-)

aCiDjEsUs said:
I checked my jars just a moment a go, and I think I got some white stuff going in one of my three jars that got knocked up on the 10th.
So if I get 5 fully col. jars I would be more then happy

Hell yeah bro congrats!

Mookjong · Mar 13, 2013

RetiredMatthebrute said:
i have heard they are really really potent.

I've heard the same, maybe I broke mine. LOL. I just don't remember them being anything different other than being really chewy.

Here, eat a bowl of Dicks!!

polyarcturus · Mar 13, 2013

pick the aborts they are always the strongest. i keep a little small bag for collecting aborts. eat 2g of them and whooh.

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