Airwalker16
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I'd still take an Amare over an apache
I own both, have ran both. Both are good lights,I prefer the Apache for my particular situation.I'd still take an Amare over an apache
That's impressive how different the spectral graphs really are on those different models. Looks like the RB would be your best option for flower though?View attachment 3730991 The W/R one got all that blue just from 5k's? Peaking @ 470 + 630. It's got x2 as much green as my HH & peaking in 630 instead of 660.
Why, how much differant does it look? Less pink I'm sure cuz there's allot more green in the white I guess. Just thought the spectral graph shows allota blue for just 5k whites.
Which one do you have?
You don't have the mammoth AT 600 like GreenGenes has though right? Just da widdle 120?I own both, have ran both. Both are good lights,I prefer the Apache for my particular situation.
No, the red flowers like shit. Unless BML was telling the truth w/ the video against the Gavitas. I don't buy it anymore. Has to be BS. There's no real results anywhere I can find for the Grow-Max spectrum except that super impressive video. To impressive from my recent experience w/ almost the same spectrum. Wtf. Do they lie?? I'd be pissedThat's impressive how different the spectral graphs really are on those different models. Looks like the RB would be your best option for flower though?
GG put his 300 light up against an equal sized Apache yet? Wouldn't that be his target goal to beat, one might think? I wonder?You don't have the mammoth AT 600 like GreenGenes has though right? Just da widdle 120?
Amare is supplementing with MH plasma? What?. ..... I don't get itI think Amare is supplementing with plasma View attachment 3730926
Plasma , led, two different light techsHell Ya! You heard too! The super Plasma IR+UV EX-PG-49'r by Cree!!! Lovin it!!
How does it feel to cradle that Donkeys Dick Mang! Lol! I guess that's some of the kinky shit we do for our lights! lol!
Budmaster,s insanely priced God series uses osram deep red oslons.......none of their fixtures are ul listed, so not commercial imo.I don't think BudMaster uses deep red either. Those are good lights! Apache, Amare. I thought there was more for some reason? I took these before the fireworks. View attachment 3730976View attachment 3730977Natural sunset colors are what I now think are nm's our plants want. I just don't see burple being natural enough to properly grow the plant in flower.
Pretty cool what burples can do in veg though.
Amare vs. Apache hu! Mmmmnnnhhh!!!! Very interesting!
Your hydroponic hut panel uses generic encapsulated leds with efficiencies in the teens or worse......hence the crappy results. Brand new 600w SE hps bulb is in the thirties, big difference.Amare
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The Full spectrum all in one. No having to mix 3 differant light sources to accomplish this spectrum.
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I thought of any burple would be good it would be this one. Boy was I wrong. I wonder how much their performances differ? This one has green. Some don't.
AT 600 is 4 AT 200 r2 mashed together........heavy bastardYou don't have the mammoth AT 600 like GreenGenes has though right? Just da widdle 120?
You didn't hear about the plasma LEDs Amare uses? Freakin nutz.Amare is supplementing with MH plasma? What?. ..... I don't get it
Nice buds btw
Plasma , led, two different light techs
Budmaster,s insanely priced God series uses osram deep red oslons.......none of their fixtures are ul listed, so not commercial imo.
Your hydroponic hut panel uses generic encapsulated leds with efficiencies in the teens or worse......hence the crappy results. Brand new 600w SE hps bulb is in the thirties, big difference.
AT 600 is 4 AT 200 r2 mashed together........heavy bastard
Your insurance company will care if its not ul / etl approved fixture(s)...if your legal, otherwise it doesn't matter obviously.You didn't hear about the plasma LEDs Amare uses? Freakin nutz.
Ul certs don't grow buds but i hear you.
The Bud-Master looks like they peak in 600-630 to me. Gotta look close at the graph. Same price as Apache I think.
I don't know what the efficiency is on that. But I doubt it's the teens. It's wicked bright.
My Amare will Spank an Apache!!! Ha! Less then 1/2 the price too!
Hadtogotherelol!!!
Nice! Quadrennial Energy Review. Or Quantum Efficency Rating? I know you appreciate Certs n all that. Seen your posts. They have allot to be appreciated. I agree. True IP ratings too. W/o that quality control & goals to strive for, so many companies would be shitting on us & products wouldn't be safe.Your insurance company will care if its not ul / etl approved fixture(s)...if your legal, otherwise it doesn't matter obviously.
Did "wicked" bright give you good results? No, amare spanked it due more watts?, and a better QER.
"Plasma led" doesn't exist , two totally different techs............learn grower, victor probably worded differently than you remember.
I have the Apache at200 and the amare se220.You don't have the mammoth AT 600 like GreenGenes has though right? Just da widdle 120?
Gotta say man I was a little nervous with the last picture. Looked like the Amare was behind but it's seemed to catch right up and even pass.
How's the weight & quality comparison?LED wars gotta love them! Well here is the AMARE SE-450 running without the lenses against 1000 watt (Hortilux Enhanced Spectrum) bulb running at 600 watts. This is a side by side with clones from the same mother grown in separate tents. Using the same nutrients and feeding schedule. Running the HPS at night to help combat the heat.
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Who says LED's can't grow large cola's WRONG!
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You killed it. All Biggenz!View attachment 3733451
This is one plant and I have 4 plants per se-450 early to tell but I'd say it's well over a pounds a light. View attachment 3733452
Qp is good. They are usually 60-70 days from seed to chop so there is a trade off. Time vs yield. Haven't really done the math to see how I'd stand compared to photo period but either way if 4 plants can pull 1.5-2 lbs which are 80 day strains under one Amare I'll be thrilled. Next run will be 80-90 day strains but can pull over 8oz. I'm not sure I'll document it cause it's a new breed I'm not familiar withYou killed it. All Biggenz!
Yeah, I may try some autos at the other spot so I can keep an eye on them. I always thought they were supposed to be small. Like Qp plants. Guess not in your hands. Good job! Dying to hear your weigh-in!