MY 90watt led ufo tri ban

irishboy · Sep 7, 2009

project fuoro said:
I dunno now about the 126... I have seen a site completely bash this person, I have seen this person on practically every site I know of...It also seems pictures are being posted, which don't seem to be in proper time-line, but I am still looking into that.

Customer service plays a huge roll. I have seen you compliment PS multiple times, and shown where you were happy with previous models of the ufo from them.

If the 180 works out, I am going to get 4 of them for a 30x30...
You seem to be having good luck with it... I also like the round vs the rectangle, as all the areas worked with are square for me...

Anywho...

Keep me posted on the puppy!!!

Peace and Best wishes

-pf-

dude 4 180w would rock in a 30x30 area. i would love to see that. you could do alsot of plants with 4 of the jumbos. plus you can lover those bad boys right abouve ur plants and still have good foot print since their will be 4 of them

customer service has always ben great with prosource. i cant complain about that.

project fuoro · Sep 7, 2009

irishboy said:
dude 4 180w would rock in a 30x30 area. i would love to see that. you could do alsot of plants with 4 of the jumbos. plus you can lover those bad boys right abouve ur plants and still have good foot print since their will be 4 of them

Well....

We won't be counting sheep tonight...haha

Imagine the sunglasses you would need just to check on your shit...

Sunlight won't be shit after that! haha

Keep on Keepin' on!

-pf-

LEDGirl · Sep 7, 2009

project fuoro said:
I dunno now about the 126... I have seen a site completely bash this person, I have seen this person on practically every site I know of...It also seems pictures are being posted, which don't seem to be in proper time-line, but I am still looking into that.

Customer service plays a huge roll. I have seen you compliment PS multiple times, and shown where you were happy with previous models of the ufo from them.

If the 180 works out, I am going to get 4 of them for a 30x30...
You seem to be having good luck with it... I also like the round vs the rectangle, as all the areas worked with are square for me...

ProSource is the one who told Irish and BF to use their lights WAY higher than anyone with a brain would ever do. So is customer service having zero experience with your own product? Is customer service wrongly advising your customers how to use their products, and then changing your website once a customer tells you your information is bogus? Cause that's what happened here. ProSource changed their site recommendations YET AGAIN, and it has a lot to do with Irish and myself. They also changed their website, once I pointed out that they plagiarized SolarOasis' research on Orange LED's, and why they use them in their products.

So ya, you'll see some people bash me on different forums. It happens everywhere, as there are tons of skeptics out there. Do you have any clue how many people are out there bashing ProSource? They aren't bashing me because of the performance of my lights, but that's what they're doing to ProSource (everyone except Irish of course). He seems to be one of the only people that bought their product, who actually thinks they have a good light!

Anyhow, the time-line question was answered already, if you missed it. And why in the world would you want to have to wear glasses in your bloom room? Shouldn't all that light be aimed at your plants instead of your eyes? Peace.

irishboy · Sep 7, 2009

LEDGirl said:
ProSource is the one who told Irish and BF to use their lights WAY higher than anyone with a brain would ever do. So is customer service having zero experience with your own product? Is customer service wrongly advising your customers how to use their products, and then changing your website once a customer tells you your information is bogus? Cause that's what happened here. ProSource changed their site recommendations YET AGAIN, and it has a lot to do with Irish and myself. They also changed their website, once I pointed out that they plagiarized SolarOasis' research on Orange LED's, and why they use them in their products.

So ya, you'll see some people bash me on different forums. It happens everywhere, as there are tons of skeptics out there. Do you have any clue how many people are out there bashing ProSource? They aren't bashing me because of the performance of my lights, but that's what they're doing to ProSource (everyone except Irish of course). He seems to be one of the only people that bought their product, who actually thinks they have a good light!

Anyhow, the time-line question was answered already, if you missed it. And why in the world would you want to have to wear glasses in your bloom room? Shouldn't all that light be aimed at your plants instead of your eyes? Peace.

i think they have a great light, i havent yet see a low powerd led light grow better yet on any forums. once i see a low power led grow do better then ill change my mind.

irishboy · Sep 7, 2009

project fuoro said:
Well....

We won't be counting sheep tonight...haha

Imagine the sunglasses you would need just to check on your shit...

Sunlight won't be shit after that! haha

Keep on Keepin' on!

-pf-

ya man they have some brite leds, i dont care what angle u look at it still hurts my eyes. i have special sunglasses now for my room.. very intesnce light from that 180w

LEDGirl · Sep 7, 2009

irishboy said:
i think they have a great light, i havent yet see a low powerd led light grow better yet on any forums. once i see a low power led grow do better then ill change my mind.

Lol, sorry then, "great light"

. I said good before. When you say a low powered, what do you mean? Something lower than 180W? Cause you started with a 90W... Low power to me, means a LED that is under 1W. Just about any 50W, 90W, 180W, 300W LED, is going to use High-power 1W LED's. Anyhow, you may want to clarify bongsmilie

project fuoro · Sep 7, 2009

LEDGirl said:
ProSource is the one who told Irish and BF to use their lights WAY higher than anyone with a brain would ever do. So is customer service having zero experience with your own product? Is customer service wrongly advising your customers how to use their products, and then changing your website once a customer tells you your information is bogus? Cause that's what happened here. ProSource changed their site recommendations YET AGAIN, and it has a lot to do with Irish and myself. They also changed their website, once I pointed out that they plagiarized SolarOasis' research on Orange LED's, and why they use them in their products.

So ya, you'll see some people bash me on different forums. It happens everywhere, as there are tons of skeptics out there. Do you have any clue how many people are out there bashing ProSource? They aren't bashing me because of the performance of my lights, but that's what they're doing to ProSource (everyone except Irish of course). He seems to be one of the only people that bought their product, who actually thinks they have a good light!

Anyhow, the time-line question was answered already, if you missed it. And why in the world would you want to have to wear glasses in your bloom room? Shouldn't all that light be aimed at your plants instead of your eyes? Peace.

First off I want to apologize to Irish for basically hijacking his thread. My bad. I had no intention.

Second, I think you should drop your LED b.s. and let Irish and others do their thing. You want to cloud up other communities that is fine, but keep the cloud out from this one.
Unbiased is when there is not other bullshit going on keeping people from comparing and revealing their results.

Keep your crap out of this thread, please. We all want to know what these lights are capable of, and if yours are better, then your sales will show it. End.

-pf-

irishboy · Sep 7, 2009

LEDGirl said:
Lol, sorry then, "great light" . I said good before. When you say a low powered, what do you mean? Something lower than 180W? Cause you started with a 90W... Low power to me, means a LED that is under 1W. Just about any 50W, 90W, 180W, 300W LED, is going to use High-power 1W LED's. Anyhow, you may want to clarify

low power i mean 90w 180w 200w. i havent seen any grow under 180w doing better. i am not talking about 1w leds, talking about total leds.

i am just keeping it real, i havent seen any better grow with leds watt to watt.
untill i do ill stick with the PS lights.

thats why i am doing this test to see if their is anything better that uses low watts.

LEDGirl · Sep 7, 2009

Sorry PF, but Irish posted that anyone was able to share their own LED pictures on this thread. I know Irish from another forum, and I have permission to post there too. Anyhow, my pictures were for comparison purposes only. That way you can see buds grown under the 180W vs those grown under the 126W's.

In the future, IRISH will show which light is better when he puts our 126W against the ProSource 180. There's your unbiased results, so in the meanwhile, lets wait for his test. If you stop talking to me, I'll stop talking to you, and maybe the whole back and forth can stop, which has been taking up this thread now for the last several hours. I will continue to post progress pictures so that people can have a comparison. If there's nothing to compare results to, then this whole thread would be ProSource biased 100%. When a thread is biased like that, people don't see other options, or compare the results to see if the light really performs as it should.

LEDGirl · Sep 7, 2009

irishboy said:
low power i mean 90w 180w 200w. i havent seen any grow under 180w doing better. i am not talking about 1w leds, talking about total leds.

i am just keeping it real, i havent seen any better grow with leds watt to watt.
untill i do ill stick with the PS lights.

thats why i am doing this test to see if their is anything better that uses low watts.

Thanks for the clarification. I still haven't seen your recent bud pics under the 180W, so I can't say whether or not you have the biggest buds I've seen produced using under 200W of LED. I'll wait for em though! :bigjoint:

irishboy · Sep 7, 2009

LEDGirl said:
Thanks for the clarification. I still haven't seen your recent bud pics under the 180W, so I can't say whether or not you have the biggest buds I've seen produced using under 200W of LED. I'll wait for em though!

show some pics of a grow under 200w and will see?

project fuoro · Sep 7, 2009

Let the best man win I say! I will gladly eat my words.

Can't wait till tommoro to see those pics! Best of luck Irish, and onlookers!

Peace!

-pf-

smoke1985 · Sep 7, 2009

My head is spinning! who wants to come over to set my grow room up for me?

irishboy · Sep 7, 2009

Here u guys go, sorry for the lagging on the pics

shiva & super skunk 8 weeks into flower.3 weeks under 180w

irishboy · Sep 7, 2009

here i fell bad so heres some more pics for me being late on them.. enjoy

LEDGirl · Sep 7, 2009

You should do a single picture with an object next to one of your buds for reference, like a pill bottle, dollar bill, cell phone, whatever... it will help people see the actual size of the buds. Kinda like how my avatar picture is, with a 5-week bloom plant.

irishboy · Sep 7, 2009

LEDGirl said:
You should do a single picture with an object next to one of your buds for reference, like a pill bottle, dollar bill, cell phone, whatever... it will help people see the actual size of the buds. Kinda like how my avatar picture is, with a 5-week bloom plant.

ill try to find my ph bottle and take it with that. how many watts u runing agian with the ph bottle? and ur using co2 on that one? is that one ur friends or urs?
if your using co2 whats the best ppm to keep it at? and what kind of controller is the best to use?

LEDGirl · Sep 8, 2009

irishboy said:
ill try to find my ph bottle and take it with that. how many watts u runing agian with the ph bottle? and ur using co2 on that one? is that one ur friends or urs?
if your using co2 whats the best ppm to keep it at? and what kind of controller is the best to use?

The bud in my avatar is being grown by my friend. The plant has 2, 126W supplying it light, although the entire garden had 4, 126W. You know personally how the 126W lights have a distinct coverage area, so you should be able to agree that the bud wasn't getting light from all 4 units. Anyhow, she had the CO2 at only 700ppm back then. On the 4th, when I saw her last, I told her to up it to 1500ppm (though I don't know if she did).

As far as CO2 controllers, I like the ones from CAP. I use their fuzzy-logic model. Their is a cheaper unit on the market for about $350, I think it's called TITAN? Anyhow, it does a good job at controlling CO2 as well. As long as you get a controller that monitors the atmospheric conditions of your room, you should be good. I run CO2 at 1500ppm.

irishboy · Sep 8, 2009

LEDGirl said:
The bud in my avatar is being grown by my friend. The plant has 2, 126W supplying it light, although the entire garden had 4, 126W. You know personally how the 126W lights have a distinct coverage area, so you should be able to agree that the bud wasn't getting light from all 4 units. Anyhow, she had the CO2 at only 700ppm back then. On the 4th, when I saw her last, I told her to up it to 1500ppm (though I don't know if she did).

As far as CO2 controllers, I like the ones from CAP. I use their fuzzy-logic model. Their is a cheaper unit on the market for about $350, I think it's called TITAN? Anyhow, it does a good job at controlling CO2 as well. As long as you get a controller that monitors the atmospheric conditions of your room, you should be good. I run CO2 at 1500ppm.

so that one plant is using 252w of leds and all together u have 504w of led in ur grow area. with co2 and areoponics? is this the grow ur adding more lights to or is that one urs? i belive u said ur using AN nutes is their any problem with ph flex with those nutes in ur system?

so all togher i will be looking at $800-1000 for a good co2 setup?

LEDGirl · Sep 8, 2009

irishboy said:
so that one plant is using 252w of leds and all together u have 504w of led in ur grow area. with co2 and areoponics? is this the grow ur adding more lights to or is that one urs? i belive u said ur using AN nutes is their any problem with ph flex with those nutes in ur system?

so all togher i will be looking at $800-1000 for a good co2 setup?

Yep, the plant is getting light from two different 126W, for a total of 252W. That doesn't all make it to the bud, but nearly all of it makes it to the plant (and a bit past it). 5 minutes before the picture was taken, I hung up a 5th 126W for her on the other end of the system. She is using Humboldt Nutrients Master A & B, as well as Ginormous and CalMag. They aren't having any pH issues that I'm aware of.

As far as a good CO2 setup, you can get a controller for $300 - $350, a valve for $100 - $150, and a tank for about $125 - $150. Max price of about $650 for a decent setup

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