my 3 stages of flower

Voidling

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Pond care website isn't working. Google search. I'm thinking I want to build an aero system when I get a tent and space.
 

Voidling

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Didn't at the time. It's all good. Stayed up late reading through your thread. I wouldn't know how to go through as much as y'all grow but I'm still drooling
 

chunkylonin

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Ok figured I would post here instead of the stink thread,well iam finally ready to go I have bought my tent,veg and flower lights,dehumidifier,and bought all the stuff for my cloner and vegger.My head is swirling right now because its late and Ive been waiting for a year to do this,I have a bunch of question but Ill ask a few for now.
1.I like the idea of the double vegger but was wondering why you guys went with the 3 single ones
2.What would be the main tips you would give with this system,besides the study ,study,study (trust me I have)
3.I decided to go with your 3 rail system ss,but adding one more site to each post.whats your thought on that.
4.I see you did away with the fence posts and are just using pvc pipe,why?Just price wize.
5.Are you using a enviromental climate controller in flower and if so which one.
 

superstoner1

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1. i needed more space.
2. take your time, proper tools
3. i went from 7 sites to 4 on each rail and i am currently switching to new rails with 3 sites each
4. dont understand the pvc ? i still use fence posts
5. none
 

chunkylonin

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Wow you are fast,(thats what she said hehe)the question about the pvc was it looked liked in your pic that you switched to the round pvc.My problem now is iam a pickie person and when I have to buy something I always have to research,compare etc,but that probably the ocd in me.It looked to me that u switched to single veg tub instead of double ,why was that,I understand you have the cooler on the ground but I mean directly on top of each other in case of the roots getting to long ?Why was 4 sites to many if you dont mind me asking.Why not a controller.just a ppm controller and timers
 

superstoner1

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for my flower units i always use the fence posts, never round.
its not a single tube vegger, it is a triple vegger, the res is the cooler and all three strongbox units are the veggers. the original vegger just had the rooting chamber sitting on top of the res.
7 sites was too crowded, 4 has worked great just wanted to try for a little more room per plant, and the new rails are insulated.
you said climate controller, i do use a ppm3 co2 controller and a recycle switch for pumps.
 

zer0ed

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Hey chunky, I think you are confusing SS with a different poster in this topic. there was someone else here who went with round pipes. but it wasn't SS.

Hey SS.
A couple questions i wanted to bounce off of you.
First i was thinking up some rez chiller ideas.
i know you guys use the wort chillers.

So, if i put a wort chiller in the rez, and then had a water cooling rez.
I was thinking i could put a "thermostat/temp controller" in the plant rez, and have it plugged into the pump that pumps water though the wort chiller. so that it would only pump water when the water got warm. and then shut off when the water reached the correct temp. this was the idea i had in my head to control rez temp.
But i cant really find any good "thermostats/temp controllers". i know that the seedling heating mat controllers which are basicly a temp probe, with a thermostat, are decently cheap. around $45-$50. but i cant find anything similar to control cooling, and control a water pump.
Am i going about this the wrong way? let me know what you think.


also, Since you guys are using the mini-gen co2 generator.
I know it comes with a water cooling option, and i had another idea.
What do you think about attaching a "ice box" to the co2 generator, but sticking it on the cold side of a light hood reflector.
so that the ice box works as a heat sink. cooling the ice box, and expelling the heat into the hood, and sucking it away, and out of the room.
I know it would have to be done right, so that you dont suck the co2 out of the room.
but if you had the intake come from another room. pass though the ice box to get rid of the residual heat, and then go though the reflector.

on the water cooling side, you could have the minigen go to the ice box, to expel some of the heat, and then into the water cool reservoir with some frozen 3-liter bottles.

So my question is, would a icebox help take the load off the water cool reservoir, by acting like a heat sink,and expelling some of the heat?
 

chunkylonin

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Hey chunky, I think you are confusing SS with a different poster in this topic. there was someone else here who went with round pipes. but it wasn't SS.

Hey SS.
A couple questions i wanted to bounce off of you.
First i was thinking up some rez chiller ideas.
i know you guys use the wort chillers.

So, if i put a wort chiller in the rez, and then had a water cooling rez.
I was thinking i could put a "thermostat/temp controller" in the plant rez, and have it plugged into the pump that pumps water though the wort chiller. so that it would only pump water when the water got warm. and then shut off when the water reached the correct temp. this was the idea i had in my head to control rez temp.
But i cant really find any good "thermostats/temp controllers". i know that the seedling heating mat controllers which are basicly a temp probe, with a thermostat, are decently cheap. around $45-$50. but i cant find anything similar to control cooling, and control a water pump.
Am i going about this the wrong way? let me know what you think.


also, Since you guys are using the mini-gen co2 generator.
I know it comes with a water cooling option, and i had another idea.
What do you think about attaching a "ice box" to the co2 generator, but sticking it on the cold side of a light hood reflector.
so that the ice box works as a heat sink. cooling the ice box, and expelling the heat into the hood, and sucking it away, and out of the room.
I know it would have to be done right, so that you dont suck the co2 out of the room.
but if you had the intake come from another room. pass though the ice box to get rid of the residual heat, and then go though the reflector.

on the water cooling side, you could have the minigen go to the ice box, to expel some of the heat, and then into the water cool reservoir with some frozen 3-liter bottles.

So my question is, would a icebox help take the load off the water cool reservoir, by acting like a heat sink,and expelling some of the heat?
You are correct,I went back to look and the pic that I saw was posted by ocean,my bad ss.Would you guys recomend a complete climate controller or should I just stick to seperate timers etc ? I want to run a sealed tent but I dont have a minni split and dont want to use a portable ac unit or window,was just thinking of using a temp regulator to plug the inline fan into.SS has your nute formula for veg and flower changed since you posted on the first few pages or is it all still the same.I said it befor but thanks ss and everyone else on here and on AG,you guys really are some bad ass sum bitches and always come thru with answears even if you have answeard them 1000 times already,really impressed with your guys passion and ingenuity with this system and tips.....
 

oceangreen

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Ok figured I would post here instead of the stink thread,well iam finally ready to go I have bought my tent,veg and flower lights,dehumidifier,and bought all the stuff for my cloner and vegger.My head is swirling right now because its late and Ive been waiting for a year to do this,I have a bunch of question but Ill ask a few for now.
1.I like the idea of the double vegger but was wondering why you guys went with the 3 single ones
2.What would be the main tips you would give with this system,besides the study ,study,study (trust me I have)
3.I decided to go with your 3 rail system ss,but adding one more site to each post.whats your thought on that.
4.I see you did away with the fence posts and are just using pvc pipe,why?Just price wize.
5.Are you using a enviromental climate controller in flower and if so which one.
3 seperate veg boxes. don't do that please.

the poitn of this system is ease of use once setup.

it would be annoying to adjust ph and change the rez for 3 veggers. don't forget you have 3 flowers systems also..
 

oceangreen

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SS and co,

the vegger system and nute formula is beast. man those things are looking great.... I am so happy with my work...its finally showing its rewards.
I added a split ac in the veg room. made a huge difference

I wanted to talk about topping off the veg rez.

once my rez hits 6.0, ill top off with water and adjust to 5.2?

How do you guys do it
 

oceangreen

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also got my ushio bulbs.. loving them. they get hotter than the previous philips son t green power i ran
 

oceangreen

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SS,

I am thinking of switching the rez totes to ice cooler containers... they are rigid, for better drainage stability, cooler temps, and NO LEAKS..

The issue offcourse is size and weight.... I would only be able to fit 3 18 gallon ice cooler containers..

what do you think?
 

SOMEBEECH

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SS,

I am thinking of switching the rez totes to ice cooler containers... they are rigid, for better drainage stability, cooler temps, and NO LEAKS..

The issue offcourse is size and weight.... I would only be able to fit 3 18 gallon ice cooler containers..

what do you think?
I really like the idea,but hows tht gonna effect space.........
On the T-Stat and temp controller i own a HVAC bus and they have em at my supply house i use,I think the ones for watercoolers ie drinking fountain should adjust just fine.

BEECH
 

chunkylonin

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what site should I get my nutes from,was thinking ebay.Do you guys buy a kit first then piece the rest from their ?
 

chunkylonin

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I just found a mini split system for 300,8800 btu air and 14000 btu heat.The only thing is its used .Is it plugged into a 220 outside like a condenser unit,or is it just plugged into a 110 outlet after it is weird to condenser ? I want to run a sealed room and heard that the mini is the only way to go and that a portable ac is a nono.Iam running my grow out of a tent,so iam wondering if I could just get a chiller for rez and iam running 3 600 watt ,cool tubes so it shouldnt get to hot inside,but iam not sure.I also have dehumid inside and iam getting my co2 tank tomorrow,what should I do ?
 

superstoner1

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the coolers are good, i have a 150pt i use for veg but i like the 50gal smartbins better. the coolers really do not keep the temps better and are much more expensive.
 
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