my 2 biggest plants look tired? stressed?

I am wondering what is wrong with the two plants in the pix. I have them in foxfarm soil and i keep the ph between 6.5-6.8 watering onece every 3 days maybe about a gallon between two plants. I have used some nutes like root 66 sugar daddy bc boost on the water schedule that is suggested. I have also used some fish emulsion once and sprayed all 12 with neem once. These 2 are the only ones lookin bad. They dont even look all that bad tho. The leaves look healthy, have a nice color, are moist, but they look like they are dead weight, like they are flopping over. I thought weight, size, or maybe size of container they are in is too small, but there in 3 gal buckets. Anyone know what this looks like?
Maybe overwater? why just the two then? They are the biggest ones, they are platinum kush strain....

I would guess they are either root bound or under watered given the information you have provided.

Seem to be stretched. Can you get the lights closer?

Snow Crash said:

I would guess they are either root bound or under watered given the information you have provided.

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I agree they do look over watered. Watering every 3 days may be to often, hold back on the water for a few extra days and see if they bounce back..

Like smucker said they seem to be stretched lower the light if possible and them stems look skinny, Do you have a fan on them?

i would say lack of water, in a 3gallon bucket use the whole gallon on one. they need a lot of water. Make sure that the plants are draining well.

yeah there is a fan on them... Maybe I should put it closer. The lights are just inches from the tops of the plants id say about 3" to be exact. I have the lights real close always and wake up to my plants touching the bottom of the lights, so why they stretched so much i dont know... the mother that those were taken off of is real lengthy too.... So i should transplant em to maybe a 5 gal? Underwatered or overwatered? The pots is dry at the drain holes and at the top...... Could this be ventilation? just wondering why the two platinums are doing this and the cotton candy and bubbas are not....

One says lack of water and two say over watered. LOL

Ya see how some of your ;leaves are turning up? they are trying to get rid of the excess water. Let them dry out for a week and see what happens after that.

A good way to water is to weigh the pot when it is completely dry, keep that weight in mind and then water it and see how much that weighs.

I am wondering if my drainage is too well...... My soil level has dropped alot from watering em for the last month..... Should i put em in flower?... they been in veg 30 days and i was gonna go another 30 b4 flower but there gettin too tall... How do they look besides that, any concerns u guys see?

They look fine besides the skinny stalk and droopy leaves. You should fix this problem before flowering because throwing into flower could add some stress.
How long have they been droopy? after a feeding or after a dry period?

Thanks your for your responses guys, good lookin out!

After you water, do the leaves stand back up the next day? If so, you probably need to water a little more frequently. I bought one of those meters that test moisture in soil and measure each day just to see how the soil is feeling. It was only 8 bucks. Everything else seems happy with the plant - color looks good, etc so at this point I'd lean to a watering issue.

Nunotmp said:

They look fine besides the skinny stalk and droopy leaves. You should fix this problem before flowering because throwing into flower could add some stress.
How long have they been droopy? after a feeding or after a dry period?

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They have been skinny and droopy for only yesterday and today. I fed em 3 days ago.. treated em with neem at the same time... would the neem spray on the foilage do this? overspraying em? the pots look bone dry like i said an the drain holes are also dry, but i feel like maybe when i did water it was a bit much, although some people in here say not enough some say too much... I do know that my 3gal buckets have alot of holes in em, and the soil level has dropped alot to about just over half full. Should i transplant em? Do i need to transplant b4 flower? can i expect them to get bigger in flower that it is necessary to go from a 3 to 5 gal? Did i put em in the 3gal too soon causing em to stretch?

dshot420 said:

After you water, do the leaves stand back up the next day? If so, you probably need to water a little more frequently. I bought one of those meters that test moisture in soil and measure each day just to see how the soil is feeling. It was only 8 bucks. Everything else seems happy with the plant - color looks good, etc so at this point I'd lean to a watering issue.

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I saw those for 8-10 bucks but wasnt sure if it was legit so I didnt swoop on it... Ill order a meter today for sure.. FREE AMAZON shipping is the shit!

they have never drooped like this for me to tell if they stand up the next day... they were always up till yesterday...

ImLiquorSicc said:

They have been skinny and droopy for only yesterday and today. I fed em 3 days ago.. treated em with neem at the same time... would the neem spray on the foilage do this? overspraying em? the pots look bone dry like i said an the drain holes are also dry, but i feel like maybe when i did water it was a bit much, although some people in here say not enough some say too much... I do know that my 3gal buckets have alot of holes in em, and the soil level has dropped alot to about just over half full. Should i transplant em? Do i need to transplant b4 flower? can i expect them to get bigger in flower that it is necessary to go from a 3 to 5 gal? Did i put em in the 3gal too soon causing em to stretch?

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Well since you have been watering every 3 days with good results until now you may have to increase the watering..As the plants grow the faster the drink up the water you give them..
The stretch may be in the genetics and nothing you can do about it. The plants will about double in size when thrown into flower so if you think the 3gal pots are to small now then you should consider transplanting

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Well since you have been watering every 3 days with good results until now you may have to increase the watering..As the plants grow the faster the drink up the water you give them..
The stretch may be in the genetics and nothing you can do about it. The plants will about double in size when thrown into flower so if you think the 3gal pots are to small now then you should consider transplanting

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That makes sense about the water... Genetics show from the mom Lengthy tall plants... Im moving my fan closer to help the stems get strength,let em veg for a few more weeks and watch the water, ordered my Moisture meter, so I sould be ok.... Ill let you guys know what happens, Thanks again!

The JoC is really surprising. This guy must be really ripped all of the time...

More people have said under-watering than over-watering.

This makes PERFECT sense.
First of all... The affected plants are larger. Larger plants need more water. Pretty simple shit.
Secondly... The affected plants are closer to the lights, and hence warmer. This requires higher rates of transpiration to stay cool. Again, a requirement for more water.
Lastly... The grower has been allowing more than 48 hours to pass between waterings in a planter that is clearly full of roots.

I just wanted to make this clear.

Watering by weight is the best way to go about it. Lift the planter before and after you water it. Get a feel for the weight. Lift your planter every so often to get an idea of how much weight it is losing. When the planter becomes very easy to lift up (almost surprisingly light) then you can water it again. No need for some moisture meter. Just lift it up an inch.

so after i created this thread today I took the advice of half of u and I watered. Now a few hours later My plants look better than ever. I watered with ph7 water and tested the run off an it was 6.8 so thats good. I have been pretty sketchy about giving too much water and i guess I have been a little to careful. So thanks again for everyones input. My problem looks solved!!