MrHowardMarks' experienced grower journal.

It looks like it's being overfed, and overwatered to me, leaves curling under...

VictorVIcious said:

ever tried mixing coco-coir in it? I am experimenting with re-using it right now, the last two tables I transplanted are all in the same coir as my last crop. One of the last videos GK did the guy reuses his, I use had been using it in the flowerbeds around the house and decided to try it. I'm using ro water so I am not worried about salt build up. VV

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Yes... I have!

And no, I don't like the stuff. I tried it but itself, before I knew that you had to do some funny shit for it to work... Can't think of what, more MgCal, or pH or something...

I also used it in a mix another grower told me about, it's like 25% Moss 25%Coco 25%perlite 25% rockwool chips, didn't like it either, it worked pretty well, but had disposal issues.


I reuse my soil for 4 harvests, you can buy final phase from AN, I'm sure there are other products from the big companies. The one you use during flush.

What these products do is break up the existing nutrients in the soil, so you can rinse it out. When using these products on your plants for flushing, I recommend using the suggested amount, watering enough to saturate the soil... Wait an hour, and flush thouroughly with plain pHed water... And check your runoff Doctor



Oh and VV... RO doesn't have anything to do with nutrient buildup in the soil...?

using my tap water would. VV

Hey Mr Howard,
Before I was watering with one cup every 2 days with 1/2 of the suggested nutrient dose. My plan was then to wait till sunday cause I watered them yesterday (Wednsday). When I water them next I was going to use regular water PH'd to 6. I will do that one more time next Wednesday. After that I was planing on only using 1/4 of the reccomended nutrient dosage. Also I am going to switch off from nutrient water to regular PH'd water from now on. Do you think I should get a PPM reader. I have a soil PH reader and it is reading at about 6.8 right now. What do you think? I only ask cause I know you have grown blueberry before.

At this stage it's not strain specific, hell, pretty much all strains act the same.

Have you just been watering every 3 days and not checking the moisture level?

Do you let the pots get light before you water them?

Also, I definately recomend watering more than 1 cup, water until it starts to drain out the bottom, then wait until it feels light before you water again.

Is your soil pretreated with nutrients? Miracle Grow soil, or Scotts potting mix has fertilizer in it.

say MHM is keeping the lights at 10-12 inches from the plants under a 600 watt hps ok as long as the temp. is 75. between the lights,or is that to close and cause stretching,?

MrHowardMarks said:

At this stage it's not strain specific, hell, pretty much all strains act the same.

Have you just been watering every 3 days and not checking the moisture level?

Do you let the pots get light before you water them?

Also, I definately recomend watering more than 1 cup, water until it starts to drain out the bottom, then wait until it feels light before you water again.

Is your soil pretreated with nutrients? Miracle Grow soil, or Scotts potting mix has fertilizer in it.

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I have been watering every 2 days, and I have not been testing moisture level. How long do you suggest I wait and test moisture level?

I water the pots around 7 PM every Night. The lights go on around 4:30 PM. Sometimes I water them in the morning at about 7 AM and the lights are on till 10:30. What would be the ideal time to water them based on my light schedule also do you think my pots are big enough to do I 4 week veg and a 8 week flower?

I have 3.5 liter pots. How much do you think I should water it. There is little to no run off with using 1 cup. How many cups should I use?

I am using fox farm Fox farm Ocean Forest soil.

I definately recommend a different watering strategy

There's your problem...

Ocean Forest already has some nutes in it, but half strength nutes won't hurt it...

Water a liter per pot, that should get you some runoff, but wait until it dries out before you water. You might want to start right now with a good flush of plain water, just to be safe, water 2 liters per pot to rinse out whatever is in there, you can use up to a gallon, but a half should do.

The pots will be really light when they need water, and when they do, give them 1-2 liters to thouroughly saturate the soil, then wait til they need water again.

You can purchase a cheap moisture probe, like 6 bucks, probably hard to find at home depot since it's not garden season... Walmart and lowes have them too, it's just a metal probe with a moisture indicator on top.

You definately need to wait until they need water instead of feeding them everyday.

raiderman said:

say MHM is keeping the lights at 10-12 inches from the plants under a 600 watt hps ok as long as the temp. is 75. between the lights,or is that to close and cause stretching,?

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Yeah, perfectly fine, just raise them a bit towards the end of flower.

Man, I started reading this... and kept reading... and reading...

39 pages - that's crazy. I'll keep reading 'cause there's a lot to learn in here but that's a LOT to read.


Just to comment on these last few posts: overwatering, overfeeding, and generally over-pampering is what kills most plants. You've got to remember these aren't domesticated pets that need us to fill their food and water dish every day. They're plants and they survive just fine in the wild without us.

It's almost like they need a certain amount of struggle to thrive.

Yeah, I knew it would get big, but I didn't think there'd be 400 posts before flowering started

It'll be fun to go back and look at my progress, I've never kept a grow diary...

MrHowardMarks said:

Yeah, I knew it would get big, but I didn't think there'd be 400 posts before flowering started

It'll be fun to go back and look at my progress, I've never kept a grow diary...

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Why are you suprised, I told you this would happen, and it is addictive. By the way, Ohio legislature is holding hearing on MEDMJ, I posted the radio strip about it in NewsYouCanUse. VV

MHM an honor to larn tricks from a Master!!!!!

Thanxxxx! Ill keep a close eye on this thread!

thanks for the interest.

VictorVIcious said:

Why are you suprised, I told you this would happen, and it is addictive. By the way, Ohio legislature is holding hearing on MEDMJ, I posted the radio strip about it in NewsYouCanUse. VV

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Sweet, hope the whole country smarts up and it's relegalized... Medical is kinda a bitch out in my opinion, i want recreational use acceptable also, although I'm sure I could get it perscribed.

I think the same. My reason for campaigning for the medical is simple, its what we knew we could do, suveys showed 58% support going into the campaign, legaliztion/ decrim 38%. Get the patients off the battlefield, dont tell that 90 year old going thru chemo you want her to be comotose or in pain, the only leagl choices. DOn't tell the aids patient it causes cancer, etc. VV

Well, smoking any carbon based material causes cancer... But eating it is totally healthy. That's my biggest concern with medicinal. A doctor could get his license taken away for suggesting a patient to smoke a plant. Alternative medicine the same. And dispensaries sell mostly cured raw cannabis, to be smoked... Smoking isn't healthy no matter what way you look at it, but I smoke everyday, so what do I care

Well... i don't agree that smoking marijuana causes cancer quite the opposite. CHeck out the research done by Donald Tashkin, paid for by the NHI. He published hios result in 2006.
Doens't really matter because you can vap or ingest like you mentioned. VV

mt howard marx hows the grow going ... i have a question would you ever order seeds to a location where you are going to be growing at?

Not just marijuana, but anything that is carbon based, when burned, releases chloro-flouro-carbons, when inhaled it's known to cause cancer. Just the same as burning gas, or sitting at a campfire, any smoke is bad.

I agree that marijuana has great benefits, it releases built up tar in the lungs from smoking... So who knows.

I believe cannabis is the most useable plant known to man, and to make it illegal is outright stupid, unjustifiable, and an abomination of civilization and mankind.

It's just a plant, you can't make a naturally occuring thing illegal... Shit, can you make tornadoes or hurricanes illegal? Why not make poison ivy, oak and sumac illegal? It's a huge conspiracy we'll never fully understand.

I think it started with the logging industry for their paper products, and the cotton industry for textiles... How else could inferior products succeed in the industrial age?

Mr. Marks,

I just wanted to check out your knowledge on the subject we both love... I didnt know from our conversations in the wick thing that you were such a wonder with plants.. I am deeply sorry for anything said that would piss you off or for my bitchyness. You obviously have tons more experience than my shitty three plant grows.... Hope that we can move forward and holy hell nice journal.. got some great info that ill use to get better at my trade and subscribed for sure... Again good karma and lots of harvest..

Homegrwn

Well....I geuss if you flamed himin public you should apologize in public, shows what your made of + rep for it. VV

Here's a link to the Washington Post stating that recent research found that marijuana doesn't not cause cancer as previous believe: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729_pf.html.

But I sure you can find 2 articles saying that it does cause cancer for every one you find telling you it doesn't.

And congrats on the 40 pager. I keep up with the posts every day or two and find myself sad and wanting more posts.

My Question: You obviously grow copious amount of ganja .. how do you store it? Freezer, mason jars .. or do you just smoke it all in 2oz spliffs?