Padawanbater2
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Something that used to happen to a decent portion of the population v something that happens a small fraction of a percentage of millions of doses
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Canna Sylvan
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Versus the herd protects me. I thank all you vaccine crusaders. Less disease vectors means I don't need a vaccine.Something that used to happen to a decent portion of the population v something that happens a small fraction of a percentage of millions of doses
Padawanbater2
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Why are you so opposed to vaccines?
Canna Sylvan
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Most likely you won't get a reaction if your infant eats honey. My parents put honey on my pacifier. There's less of a chance the honey will harm my newborn than the vaccine, yet honey has the warning.
There is also epidemiological evidence that auto-immune, diabetes, lupus and anaphylaxis have increased several fold since vaccines were introduced. Is that because of the shit we eat like too much sugar, fattening foods, etc, or the vaccine?
Padawanbater2
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What evidence suggests there is a link between vaccines and "auto-immune, diabetes, lupis, and anaphylaxis"?
Canna Sylvan
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My kids don't have autism. I do. My symptoms didn't appear until after I had vaccines. I'm a real fun person, huh? Why would I want others to think my children are the same. They don't know if vaccines can trigger autism with some who have the genetic predisposition towards autism through a mechanism called epigenetics.
Canna Sylvan
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Just like incidents of those symptoms increased with vaccines, in the same way vaccines prove the preventing diseases. It's the same epidemiological evidence. But the negatives aren't talked about, for fear others will think twice about getting vaccines.
If my children want a vaccine as an adult, that's there decision. Was it fair my parents mutilated my penis with a circumcision and I can never go back to my original self? Once you're vaccinated, you can't go back.
UncleBuck
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kpmarine
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Or perhaps it's better medical practices which lead to better diagnosis of people's issues.
Padawanbater2
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Have you been diagnosed by a medical professional as being autistic? Have they attributed your autism to vaccines?
Incidence of those symptoms increased with condom usage, too. Are we to blame condoms like you seem to be blaming vaccines for that?
Canna Sylvan
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Yes, as a child I was diagnosed with high functioning autism. My mother never told me because she thought I ruined her life.
You're absolutely correct, vaccines just happened to correspond to people washing their hands more, wearing condoms, etc. Maybe less incidents of STDs caused less cases of Polio, not the vaccine?
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kpmarine
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I think you're missing the overriding correlation != causation point here.
Padawanbater2
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Don't you think that's something that would have been accounted for during the discovery and testing of vaccines?
They test for that stuff, man. Measles, mumps, rubella, typhus, yellow fever, etc. these diseases are not sexually transmitted (via semen, breast milk, etc.), instead contagious, airborne, insect, that sort of thing..
You must find a verifiable link between autism and vaccines, Jenny McCarthy has been trying since her son was born and has not shown the link in question. It's simple misinformation, not science. Vaccines do not cause autism, auto-immune, diabetes, lupis, and anaphylaxis.. It's all hyperbole, vaccines demonstrably save many many many many many many more lives than any risk involved in getting them
UncleBuck
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Canna Sylvan
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It's about the rate. Most of the time as the population goes up, so does the number of cases. But you have a problem when the rate increases too.
It's strange seeing the same people who are against GMO's, without any hard evidence, ridicule vaccine skeptics for lack of evidence. If someone doesn't want their children vaccinated shouldn't that be okay? They aren't endangering vaccinated people since those people are vaccinated, right?
Padawanbater2
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Yes, imo individual freedom is much more important, but this type of dialogue not only encourages ignorance about vaccines and their effectiveness but reinforces it. The invention of the vaccine is without question the biggest leap in medical technology in the last 500 years, to hear people like CS explain his opinion on them is abhorrent
Doer
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Jeeze. OK. But, where is gods hell do you get to attribute vaccination to that?
Doer
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Well, I almost died a couple of times, but I smoke pot, so I didn't.