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Greennner

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I love weed,
But specialy you americans Made me feel, that my weed could be even better .
I have allready tryed a few thing .

I think pk13/14 changes the flavor, a little Bit was nice, but normal Use didnt taste that good to me.

I let my plants stand the Last 2 days of flower in the dark without Watering. That was nice. Not much diffrent, but i feels like a bit more terps.

And now with led , the next thing i want to try ist to turn Down the light (power) for the Last 10-14 days ( 1/3).

And i want to try sulfurs potasium ,Magnesium??
Can someone Help me with that ,is ther more for taste than These two?
Next is, how much (dosing), what time
And when iam right potasium should make more lemon terps and Magnesium more fruity terps?

And dou you know what nuts the "eat" or need ;) more und These high Power leds
 
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Greennner

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cobshopgrow said:
you cant go wrong having some epsom salt at hand for magnesium and sulphur, its cheap, you can buy kilo bags.
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I grow hydroponic with hydro correls and flood&drain with a 30+ gal. tank .
(Ph 5.5-5.9 / ec 0.9-1.3 max 1.4)

Do you know how to feed epsom or k2so4
I juse canna aqua nutrients(just flower&vegi + canna ph- + poolshock , thats it normaly)
 
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cobshopgrow

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Greennner said:
I grow hydroponic with hydro correls and flood&drain with a 30+ gal. tank .
(Ph 5.5-5.9 / ec 0.9-1.3 max 1.4)

Do you know how to feed epsom or k2so4
I juse canna aqua nutrients(just flower&vegi + canna ph- + poolshock , thats it normaly)
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check your water supply and tell me whats how much magnesium is in your tap water or whater water youre using.
have a look how much mg is in your canna and tell me that too.
I can calc that in hydro buddy for you.
And decide for a target ppm, i say 40-50ppm works good, but there are guys knowing this better then me.

As a rough guideline, i use 3-4g/10L (atm), RO water and my fert have 4% mgo.
With corels you probably wont need as much as ones using coco (i do), but 0.3g each liter should be quite safe.
 
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Greennner

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cobshopgrow said:
check your water supply and tell me whats how much magnesium is in your tap water or whater water youre using.
have a look how much mg is in your canna and tell me that too.
I can calc that in hydro buddy for you.
And decide for a target ppm, i say 40-50ppm works good, but there are guys knowing this better then me.

As a rough guideline, i use 3-4g/10L (atm), RO water and my fert have 4% mgo.
With corels you probably wont need as much as ones using coco (i do), but 0.3g each liter should be quite safe.
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The water i use has 21 mg/L mag.
And canna aqua flores mag. 1,2% / mgo 2,0%
Calcium ca 1,7% / cao 2,4%
 
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cobshopgrow

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Greennner said:
The water i use has 21 mg/L mag.
And canna aqua flores mag. 1,2% / mgo 2,0%
Calcium ca 1,7% / cao 2,4%
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will check when i am at the pc with hydrobuddy.
But thats not bad allready, 21 ppm in the water.
I forgot, i also use calcinit at a 50/50 rate wth the base fert, so also about 2% mgo.
Wouldnt go higher then 3g for sure with your tap without any need.
 
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cobshopgrow

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i put your values in hydrobuddy and forgot i would need the other values too, otherwise i wont know how much aqua you will use.
And a need a target EC value.

But i played a bit around, with my fert and entered your water, target ec 1.2 , 50ppm mg, just 0.13g /l needed.
You have quite some mg in your water, 0.1-0.2g/L should be safe if you wanna play arround.
 
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Kushash

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Seems like a bad road to take using nutes to increase terps when still learning to grow the plant.

I only know a few people on RIU that are likely having success with it and those growers have everything dialed in.
If a person is not getting the results they like it is most likely from the wrong genetics or a poorly grown plant.
Dial in the grow and use things like sulfur, potassium and Magnesium in the proper manner to keep the plant healthy and terps will follow.
Adding things for terps when the grow is not yet dialed in seems a bad way to go IMO.
 
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cobshopgrow

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yea, thats right, more important is a good nutrient mix/good ratios, sounds like your canna and your water do well together.
But as he plan to use some strong led light a little epsom dont hurt, more i dont say.
 
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Greennner

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Kushash said:
Seems like a bad road to take using nutes to increase terps when still learning to grow the plant.

I only know a few people on RIU that are likely having success with it and those growers have everything dialed in.
If a person is not getting the results they like it is most likely from the wrong genetics or a poorly grown plant.
Dial in the grow and use things like sulfur, potassium and Magnesium in the proper manner to keep the plant healthy and terps will follow.
Adding things for terps when the grow is not yet dialed in seems a bad way to go IMO.
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??? My weed is better then from the most other grower i know, i like to Play around(try sonthing new) from time to time , how to get better without trying?
I allwas want to get better

Canna nuts are awesome.
And i Think my light and set up ist not bad
 
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Kushash

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Greennner said:
??? My weed is better then from the most other grower i know, i like to Play around(try sonthing new) from time to time , how to get better without trying?
I allwas want to get better

Canna nuts are awesome.
And i Think my light and set up ist not bad
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Sounds good!
I'm not dissing your weed or wanting to stop anyone from having fun or experimenting if that is what they want to do.
I honestly haven't seen any of your plants in late flower to judge them but your posts had me wondering to what degree your grow is dialed in.

I didn't quote or @ you, making my statement a comment to everyone that I think it can cause more problems than help if done wrong.

I still stand by my post for the newbies who follow along.
Have fun, I'll move on.
 
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Greennner

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Kushash said:
Sounds good!
I'm not dissing your weed or wanting to stop anyone from having fun or experimenting if that is what they want to do.
I honestly haven't seen any of your plants in late flower to judge them but your posts had me wondering to what degree your grow is dialed in.

I didn't quote or @ you, making my statement a comment to everyone that I think it can cause more problems than help if done wrong.

I still stand by my post for the newbies who follow along.
Have fun, I'll move on.
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I know what you mean, this happens offen to me when iam online, i like to ask a lot(and often i ask not for me) , and i dont like to say to much of my opinion or of what i know/ thi k about my question because i dont want that what i sad affected the people answer.

And online iam more the nice and quit guy.
Thats big diffrents to real life.
I hate online Rambos. Allways happy to seen one of These guy in real life ;)


Iam more understatement , and let people have there opinion


For sure, this i NOT for biginners
But that is why i asked this here at RIU
 
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Renfro

Renfro

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Greennner said:
I think pk13/14 changes the flavor, a little Bit was nice, but normal Use didnt taste that good to me.
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For terpenes you want potassium, but not the phosphorous that helps yields but it ruins flavor. So if you wanna boost flavor during ripening you could just add potassium sulfate. Sulfur also helps with terpene production. Like anything, too much is a bad thing. Also, avoid flushing pre harvest. Starving the plant does nothing good and it reduces terpene production. When you smell terpenes it's because they are evaporating and once harvested they are finite so proper drying and storage is critical to preserve the terpenes as long as possible.
 
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Greennner

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Rocket Soul said:
Lower temps and RH late in flower, fuller spectrum with UV also seems to do the trick on terps.
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Lower temps is on my list ;)
I was so in temps that i hade the smaller stretch ever, realy close day nicht time.
But stretch is done.

Now i get 3-4C degrees diffeents day and night time. I want to give them 1 or 2 time Cold temps (a like the cooles purles and reds)maybe short time under 20c to end of flower.
But i want to start playing at week 7 of 9.
And Last 2 week temps not over 26C even das time?
 
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