Money Laundering: How to?

weed is only illegal becuase of the rope/paper and drug ppl

they can not make a profit off weed since the seeds are so common and easly gotten ..............so to protect the profits they started a campain back in the 1920s spreading rumors about what it does to ppl

the biggest weapon they used was "it makes niger's rape white women" this is their words ................u ppl have seen it the B movie from 1936 Reefer Madness ( they get so high they think they are cooking a turkey but it was really a baby they put in the oven )

to OD from weed is body weight and half in a short amount of time ( u pass out before u get close to those lvls) no one has ever OD on weed


fear is the greatest tool they use to control ppl thinking and reactions to something

look at 9/11 and all the freedoms we gave up so the GOV can keep us safe ( something else will happen and ppl will give up even more to feel safe ) it is a huge con game

Popcorn900 said:

Gain some rep before you flame. Selling a gram or two is fine between friends but selling pounds for straight profit...........whatever I'm done with this thread.

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Sorry, you don't get to tell me when I'm allowed to speak. You're making a distinction the law does not recognize. Also being judgmental.

Your opinion was that someone should be jailed for speech.

No, he said people should be imprisoned for selling weed, except for himself. I never suggested anyone be jailed, quite the opposite, in fact.

SharpEdges said:

No, he said people should be imprisoned for selling weed, except for himself. I never suggested anyone be jailed, quite the opposite, in fact.

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Wow, it is all in the record.

So, how is it that you don't deserve to be in jail like you said about the OP?

OK, I see the difference.

The idea however, is the split between personal medical growing and for profit, selling. Many of us, do feel that the backlash against the Counter Culture, "in your face, WE WON!!," can certainly set us medical growers, back. The forces in the US, have to marginalize this again or a big part of the War for Drug Profits, will be over. I do agree with that. We will have to wait and see and as usual, the USA lead the experiments via self rule at the town level.

OTH, the subject is laundering. Have any experience to share?

I don't sell, just for personal use, (ok, so I sold a couple ozs) I just can not condemn those who grow for profit when for many years I was an eager customer. Who among us here have not been a end user of commercially grown pot? With that, I have to go meet a real estate agent. Later..........

Only used Laundered Moneeeeeeee.....oh well. He will. I'm sure.

Before I finish reading this thread and make a serious reply, I'd like to address this:

Popcorn900 said:

Selling a few grams here and there is not the problem, I do that myself.

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So you're a drug dealer? You're such a piece of fucking shit.

I have a grand total of 800w of flower light.... TOTALLY a large commercial operation. You're just some stupid bitch that likes to jump to conclusions about shit you don't know. Wishing ANYONE in jail over a plant (oh wait, you sold a few grams too!) is a piece of shit thing to say and puts you, in my book, on the same page as a snitch.

You don't think medical growers grow for profit? You think the guys giving the dispensary elbows for 1500 aren't growing for profit? You're better off shutting the fuck up.

To start, houses are paid for over a long period of time. My question was based around if I took out a 10-15 year loan for a starter home, and paid it off in 5 years, which is above my financial means for reported income. A second cheap home for separating my grow from my family needs to be accomplished as well.

Again, this is an 800w grow. Hardly "commercial" though I have no problem admitting I do sell approximately half of each harvest. Sorry for not giving it away for free when taking a rather large risk? The local herb is garbage, 90% of it is seeded mexi brick. Sorry for helping support others recreational use? Regardless, if I start paying off 3-5x the mortgage amount, and that's more than my reported income is, that's going to raise eyebrows. I know 800w isn't worth getting a whole house over, but I'd like to rent it out once its paid off.

I'm primarily interested in houses (plural) as to remove the grow from my house to protect my family. I'm not talking about 200k homes, guys. I'm talking about 40-50k starter homes that can be paid off in handful of years. If I were to estimate my profits from cannabis, I'd put them in the $20k-25k/yr range. I'd just like to find a way to put nearly 100% of that money towards paying off a house quickly. I just want to get two of them, and that's why I say "paid off quickly," not sure me paying for 2 houses at the same time is any more affordable on my reported income than paying off 1 house quickly then buying another.

My initial thought was to just start an online company and funnel the funds through that and report/pay taxes accordingly. That would boost my reported income and spending power, in theory.

Here's a look at my large scale grow op, needa launder millions guize, plz halp:

It occurs to me that "rental" income from a second house would be a good explanation for having more income than you earn.

NO. The second house is a red flag as soon as you use it for the tax break. Then you have to run it like a business. Rents are not in cash, usually, etc. They will know the reasonable rents and expect you to eat the usual vacancy factor and report it as a loss..... and RULE 1, Capone, never be a tax cheat.

It isn't a matter of a story with the IRS, it is flying under the radar and having a paper trail, just in case. But, there are plenty of cash businesses out there. And the IRS, knows all about it.

My story was about a Lender, not the IRS.

Doer said:

NO. The second house is a red flag as soon as you use it for the tax break. Then you have to run it like a business. Rents are not in cash, usually, etc. They will know the reasonable rents and expect you to eat the usual vacancy factor and report it as a loss..... and RULE 1, Capone, never be a tax cheat.

It isn't a matter of a story with the IRS, it is flying under the radar and having a paper trail, just in case. But, there are plenty of cash businesses out there. And the IRS, knows all about it.

My story was about a Lender, not the IRS.

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The tax break is going away next year. Part of the ACA thing. Rents for low end apartments and houses are quite often in cash. Especially the one were utilities are included in the rent, like yours would be to avoid showing a new set of ID when you had the power turned on. You're right in that doesn't help with getting the loan to buy the house, but it does give you away to pay it off. If his credit is good, they'll loan insane amounts of money for home loans. I think he should deposit his legitimate earnings in the bank and live off his illegitimate earnings as much as possible. Over time he will accumulate enough for a minimal down payment. There's no way I know of to launder money without some sort of business. And you always lose a good portion of it in the laundering.

SharpEdges said:

The tax break is going away next year. Part of the ACA thing. Rents for low end apartments and houses are quite often in cash. Especially the one were utilities are included in the rent, like yours would be to avoid showing a new set of ID when you had the power turned on. You're right in that doesn't help with getting the loan to buy the house, but it does give you away to pay it off. If his credit is good, they'll loan insane amounts of money for home loans. I think he should deposit his legitimate earnings in the bank and live off his illegitimate earnings as much as possible. Over time he will accumulate enough for a minimal down payment. There's no way I know of to launder money without some sort of business. And you always lose a good portion of it in the laundering.

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Coin operated is a way an existing cash flow can be used to layer in extra cash. You can work it up, use cash to pay for improvements, get the business deductions, hire an accountant, deduct him. Keep him in the dark. The improvements justify the extra usage you claim as your business takes more revenue.

You can pay the taxes, now on the money and the rest is clear. That is the key. The IRS knows all about it. Under the radar is the other main point besides a good paper trail.

Other than that, straight laundry, in bulk, can cost as much as 40%, according to Breaking Bad.

cash cropper bad eh, but i sell a few grams here and there, what is that all aboot??

Start a business, one that is predominantly a cash oriented one, and keep accurate records of your "sales" and deposits. Pay taxes on it. That is a WAY oversiplification, but it's how I handle things. You don't have to name your customers anything other than "cash sale" in your records (unless you have warranty records to keep).

there are plenty of ways to "patriate" your cash. basically you would be taking your earnings from growing and claiming them as income under another business. therefore in the end you are paying taxes. probably in the highest bracket if you have enough to purchase a house with it. if you have more than you can write off by purchasing everything with cash then chances are you are going to be taxed at 40% on the patriated earnings.

i prefer not to pax taxes on any money earned from growing so i just use that cash for most of my expenses. you can also move money offshore. a lot of people move money to foreign countries where tax rates are lower or government agencies don't ask questions about deposits. although according to u.s. tax code, as of last year you were supposed to report any foreign bank accounts or investments over the value of $10,000. they have no way of tracking it though. only when you bring it back into the country. but once it's offshore then you really have nothing to worry about. i use my costa rican bank cards to purchase all of my supplies, pay bills, and pretty much buy anything i want in the u.s. then i just take the money i already paid taxes on but am not spending and stick that in the bank. if you wanted to use it to purchase a house in the u.s. then you would have to get a little more creative and purchase that house under the guise of a foreign corporation which gets a little more involved. once the legal structure is there though you can then pay your mortgage pretty easily and you won't have any issues.

Best answer, work a real job. Pay all your bills with that then pay cash for everything else

You know that cash payers are photo tagged for special atttention?

Doer said:

You know that cash payers are photo tagged for special atttention?

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What does that mean? If you want a car buy it from a individual private seller, if you want a house owner finance it. without banks. Or you can spend it all on hookers and blow...