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Molly?

MrEDuck

MrEDuck

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MDMA freebase is a rather nasty oil, the salt is a nice crystalline material. 1.00g of MDMA HCl is equivalent to 0.84g of the freebase. But everything written about dosage is about the HCl salt because why the hell would you try to handle the freebase?!
 
rory420420

rory420420

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I don't know either but you just proved a point..I have no gs/ms..but this is def very pure molly I'm about to get..so how to convert the oil to crystal?...how bout liquid x?
 
MrEDuck

MrEDuck

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The really good stuff is made by gassing dry HCl gas through a solution of the freebase, you can pour some acidic isopropanol in there as well.
 
GrowinTheDank

GrowinTheDank

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MrEDuck said:
I don't take untested drugs. Hell I usually wash MDMA with acetone, it's simple and your product will be top shelf. Dry your acetone with Epsom salts bakes at 400°F for an hour or two and then recrystallize with 50mL of acetone per gram of MDMA.
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You know what, now you've got me thinking; Why in the hell am I taking untested drugs?!

I'm gonna place myself a small order down the road from a reputable vendor, pickup a Marquis kit and see exactly what I'm working with. If it turns
then I'll feel confident in distributing the substance to my friends and ingesting it myself. I'll also be confident in my method of obtainment for said substance; so the next pickup will be 10gs(50caps). I already have empty gels, a mili scale, and I've filled em' myself once before.

I'll research a little more in-depth on the acetone washing and re-crystallization process then I'm straight.

From then on..Wanna roll? Ok, lemme just run up to my stash, and grab some top-shelf MDMA so we can enjoy our night under the influence of a clean product that I know for a fact isn't Methylone or some fucked up RC combination.
MrEDuck said:
I don't trust anything being marketed as 84% because that's implying the HCl is an impurity. But if you had 99%+ MDMA HCl it wouldn't increase the purity.
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So let's say the product I receive is 50% MDMA-HCI and the other half is of the unknown. Will this acetone cleanse leave me with 50% less product after re-crystallization, but pure MDMA nevertheless?
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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MrEDuck said:
The really good stuff is made by gassing dry HCl gas through a solution of the freebase, you can pour some acidic isopropanol in there as well.
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It sounds like you have some technical knowledge, would you mind if I ask what in your background would lead you to that? Just an interest in drugs, formal training or education?
 
MrEDuck

MrEDuck

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GrowinTheDank said:
You know what, now you've got me thinking; Why in the hell am I taking untested drugs?!

I'm gonna place myself a small order down the road from a reputable vendor, pickup a Marquis kit and see exactly what I'm working with. If it turns
then I'll feel confident in distributing the substance to my friends and ingesting it myself. I'll also be confident in my method of obtainment for said substance; so the next pickup will be 10gs(50caps). I already have empty gels, a mili scale, and I've filled em' myself once before.

I'll research a little more in-depth on the acetone washing and re-crystallization process then I'm straight.

From then on..Wanna roll? Ok, lemme just run up to my stash, and grab some top-shelf MDMA so we can enjoy our night under the influence of a clean product that I know for a fact isn't Methylone or some fucked up RC combination.So let's say the product I receive is 50% MDMA-HCI and the other half is of the unknown. Will this acetone cleanse leave me with 50% less product after re-crystallization, but pure MDMA nevertheless?
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Reasonably pure, it will clean out impurities and cuts that aren't like MDMA structurally, but something that's similar can stick around. For example if you have something that is a mix of MDA and MDMA would require chromatography to separate.

Padawanbater I worked in an MDMA lab many years ago and I'm a chemist by training.
 
VLRD.Kush

VLRD.Kush

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This is what Molly is supposed to look like



haha woke up from a nap, and had that pic on my phone from my girlfriend

*again, this is just crystalline form of a HCL salt... MDMA is NOT guaranteed to look exactly like this and MANY other RCs look identical to this.*
 
DutchKillsRambo

DutchKillsRambo

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If you're fighting a battle about purity, trust in the Duck. He knows what he's talking about.

If your like me and can't wait? Don't listen to what I did.

Get a test kit. Sometimes it's awkward with the dealer, but as the Duck said, if a dealer has good product he won't mind.
 
Derple

Derple

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If you want to roll with Molly, take the extra cost to get a test kit. Don't screw with your body/mind too much just because you couldn't be bothered paying the extra for the test kit.
 
MrEDuck

MrEDuck

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Seriously, if you care about the cost so much just buy some methylone from China! It's what you'll probably get without a kit and way cheaper.
 
rory420420

rory420420

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Fucking do mdma or don't..getting a kit won't help if your connects a douche..only thing that will happen is you will be solidified..your connects suck..get real mo fos and they won't need testing...vlrd..that's some nice rocks!..I used to put em in hookers buttholes,but they complained when I charged em for it...lol
 
rory420420

rory420420

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My buddy sez 'ill put my dreadlock in her butt and ride her like an avatar'...sexist,but comical I imagine...
 
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